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Bottom Hat

Bottom Hat
Rubbernuke said:
Saying that you can get around a few limitations- red kidney beans for brownies and almond flour for a fair few things as well.

As for breakfasts, it was all about going to the bakers (who never ran short). Was expensive but was OK for most days.

I was reading about the 'pigs in blankets crisis' now.....now call me odd but....its bacon wrapped around small sausages. I've never ever bought them pre made, how is the press making this an issue when its you, some sausages and some streaky bacon?
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I think the media tried this last year or the year before too, as a Christmas scare story. They are blaming the shortage of hgv drivers for the lack of any fresh food in any supermarket at Christmas in the future.

Which is an interesting theory, but as you say, diy is an option for people who are not incompetent at holding a piece of bacon, and a sausage. I'll leave that there!

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Bear with me, just try this once.
Bananas wrapped in bacon!
Sounds revolting, tastes delicious.
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Red Anders

Red Anders
I've never bought pigs in blankets pre-made either but I was reading this morning that unless some miracle happens, 100,000 pigs are going to be incinerated. No, not for Leo's breakfast, but because they can't be delivered for slaughter and processed. It's going to be hard to make sausages wrapped in bacon without sausages or bacon, no matter what level one's culinary skills are at.

There's already been plenty of shortages of items in my local supermarkets over the last couple of months. It's back to what the excuse that passes for the government said about food supplies post-Brexit; 'there will be adquate food'. Which to anybody familiar with government language means 'nobody will starve to death', not 'you will be able to buy all the food items that you want'.
 
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Athlon-uk

Athlon-uk
Red Anders said:
I've never bought pigs in blankets pre-made either but I was reading this morning that unless some miracle happens, 100,000 pigs are going to be incinerated. No, not for Leo's breakfast, but because they can't be delivered for slaughter and processed. It's going to be hard to make sausages wrapped in bacon without sausages or bacon, no matter what level one's culinary skills are at.
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We could source some other type of meat….


 

Rubbernuke

Rubbernuke
Red Anders said:
I've never bought pigs in blankets pre-made either but I was reading this morning that unless some miracle happens, 100,000 pigs are going to be incinerated. No, not for Leo's breakfast, but because they can't be delivered for slaughter and processed. It's going to be hard to make sausages wrapped in bacon without sausages or bacon, no matter what level one's culinary skills are at.

There's already been plenty of shortages of items in my local supermarkets over the last couple of months. It's back to what the excuse that passes for the government said about food supplies post-Brexit; 'there will be adquate food'. Which to anybody familiar with government language means 'nobody will starve to death', not 'you will be able to buy all the food items that you want'.
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It certainly will be interesting to see how it pans out. Where I live in France supermarkets are crap for choice and my meat comes from local farmers anyway :D

Saying that, if my old home (Taunton) is typical of the UK as a whole then people are massively oversubscribed with supermarkets -quite frankly anyone who can't find what they want or define it as a 'shortage' from that does not know the meaning of the word. I mean, Taunton (60k residents) has a large ASDA, LIDL, ALDI, Morrisons, Tesco (and 4 Express), One out of town Sainsburys, one medium size one in the town centre, plus loads of independents. They may have a narrower range but the way people talk is as if there is nothing at all.

It may be in the future more supermarkets go the way of ALDI / LIDL where you have one or two lines of things...I mean, how many types of beans can you stock and make money on? And if it really goes to the wall make your own bacon (if you can source a chunk of pig) and you can then make sausages too.
 

zikolach

zikolach
Could anyone check if issu tracker is working - I tried to submit new issue - it failed 3 times in a row. ON last step is shows truncated description and no reproduction steps and doesn't allow to submit. Also click to "previous step" cleans all the text fields.

Was trying to submit an issue with FSS - when planet textures are not loading in systems with 60+ planets.

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xzanfr

xzanfr
Rubbernuke said:
It certainly will be interesting to see how it pans out. Where I live in France supermarkets are crap for choice and my meat comes from local farmers anyway :D

Saying that, if my old home (Taunton) is typical of the UK as a whole then people are massively oversubscribed with supermarkets -quite frankly anyone who can't find what they want or define it as a 'shortage' from that does not know the meaning of the word. I mean, Taunton (60k residents) has a large ASDA, LIDL, ALDI, Morrisons, Tesco (and 4 Express), One out of town Sainsburys, one medium size one in the town centre, plus loads of independents. They may have a narrower range but the way people talk is as if there is nothing at all.

It may be in the future more supermarkets go the way of ALDI / LIDL where you have one or two lines of things...I mean, how many types of beans can you stock and make money on? And if it really goes to the wall make your own bacon (if you can source a chunk of pig) and you can then make sausages too.
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People seem to think that everything comes from the supermarket and delivered by lorry.
If you can be bothered to spend a Saturday morning going round farm shops or greengrocers / markets then there's plenty of choice.

I used to have a high regard from people but this pandemic has proved that most are total plonkers.

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Athlon-uk

Athlon-uk
zikolach said:
Could anyone check if issu tracker is working - I tried to submit new issue - it failed 3 times in a row. ON last step is shows truncated description and no reproduction steps and doesn't allow to submit. Also click to "previous step" cleans all the text fields.

Was trying to submit an issue with FSS - when planet textures are not loading in systems with 60+ planets.

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Lysette

Lysette
Red Anders said:
I've never bought pigs in blankets pre-made either but I was reading this morning that unless some miracle happens, 100,000 pigs are going to be incinerated. No, not for Leo's breakfast, but because they can't be delivered for slaughter and processed. It's going to be hard to make sausages wrapped in bacon without sausages or bacon, no matter what level one's culinary skills are at.

There's already been plenty of shortages of items in my local supermarkets over the last couple of months. It's back to what the excuse that passes for the government said about food supplies post-Brexit; 'there will be adquate food'. Which to anybody familiar with government language means 'nobody will starve to death', not 'you will be able to buy all the food items that you want'.
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something like this happened last year in april/may after tassie had closed it's borders and evicted nearly all tourists from the island. The consequence was an overabundance of lamb meat resp lambs, which would be less worth once they passed 12 months and their meat would be yearly mouton instead of lamb meat, It was a great opportunity for me to get excellent lamb meat at a reasonably low price tag and fill my freezer with it, very similar with veal, got a lot of that as well.

this said, yearly mouton is great for shepard's pie - not as harsh as mouton, but with a lot of character.

and to the shortage crisis in uk - if your government offers just work visa for 3 months for drivers, they won't get them - this is by far too short for people and no incentive.The uk is no australia either - what works here - our immigration system - is most likely no good for the uk either and will just lead to even more shortages in the long run.

what your government hasn't realized yet is that due to the boomer generation leaving the stage in just a few decades there will be quite a shortage in workforce, which can lead to civilization collapse where not enough immigrants are coming - it is a really bad idea to alienate migrants at this stage in time.
 
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Red Anders

Red Anders
Lysette said:
something like this happened last year in april/may after tassie had closed it's borders and evicted nearly all tourists from the island. The consequence was an overabundance of lamb meat resp lambs, which would be less worth once they passed 12 months and their meat would be yearly mouton instead of lamb meat, It was a great opportunity for me to get excellent lamb meat at a reasonably low price tag and fill my freezer with it, very similar with veal, got a lot of that as well.

this said, yearly mouton is great for shepard's pie - not as harsh as mouton, but with a lot of character.

and to the shortage crisis in uk - if your government offers just work visa for 3 months for drivers, they won't get them - this is by far too short for people and no incentive.The uk is no australia either - what works here - our immigration system - is most likely no good for the uk either and will just lead to even more shortages in the long run.

what your government hasn't realized yet is that due to the boomer generation leaving the stage in just a few decades there will be quite a shortage in workforce, which can lead to civilization collapse where not enough immigrants are coming - it is a really bad idea to alienate migrants at this stage in time.
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British politics (all politics to a degree but it seems particularly prevalent here) is overwhelmingly characterised by a focus on the short term, the shorter the better. Slap a band-aid on it and hope for the best because by the time the chickens come home to roost, it will be somebody else's problem.

It was obvious what impact we'd face in certain sectors of the economy when we curtailed the ability of foreign workers to come here to do the jobs that we've spent the last 20+ years telling our kids they're 'too good' for, as we crap them out of university with £30k of debt and degrees that will never significantly benefit them in the employment market. There's a very peculiar snobbery in Britain regarding jobs, where people are dismissive of jobs like distribution and logistics, yet are the first to moan when they can't get petrol, food on the supermarket shelves or a milkshake at McDonalds.
 

Lysette

Lysette
Red Anders said:
British politics (all politics to a degree but it seems particularly prevalent here) is overwhelmingly characterised by a focus on the short term, the shorter the better. Slap a band-aid on it and hope for the best because by the time the chickens come home to roost, it will be somebody else's problem.

It was obvious what impact we'd face in certain sectors of the economy when we curtailed the ability of foreign workers to come here to do the jobs that we've spent the last 20+ years telling our kids they're 'too good' for, as we crap them out of university with £30k of debt and degrees that will never significantly benefit them in the employment market. There's a very peculiar snobbery in Britain regarding jobs, where people are dismissive of jobs like distribution and logistics, yet are the first to moan when they can't get petrol, food on the supermarket shelves or a milkshake at McDonalds.
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yeah, I don't know why it is so hard to understand that services are on the rise in times where the world population is going to grow by 40% within this century - production is by far easier to automate than services -and the more people there are the more important services will be.

there is another issue currently which isn't very well covered by the media - china's power supply shortage - which lead to shortages in their production, which again leads to shortages in the western world for products made in china or middle ware made in china, which can interrupt production chains in the western world.

to the short term focus in politics - this is due to democracy - politicians do what gets them reelected and avoid everything, what makes people angry now, regardless if this would be more beneficial in the long term - see climate change issues - this is post-poned endlessly until it will be too late - if it isn't already. The consequences of it will cost a huge amount of money to cope with, but it doesn't cost anything yet, if the problem is just post-poned - and this is why nothing significant is done - our political system is at fault here.
 
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Rubbernuke

Rubbernuke
Lysette said:
yeah, I don't know why it is so hard to understand that services are on the rise in times where the world population is going to grow by 40% within this century - production is by far easier to automate than services -and the more people there are the more important services will be.
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You'd be surprised at automation- when I left my pharmacy job automation was a big part of the job. With calender packs of tablets for example we had a giant vending machine that could be loaded automatically (so deliveries could be lobbed into a hopper and automatically sorted). Also things like aseptic manufacturing was starting to experiment with robotic filling (not very well mind at the time) but it will only ever get better, and for that sector is useful because it removes the germ bag human and possible mistakes.

The same is true for jobs like frie (fries?) cooking in fast food, machines are slowly inching in and eventually the main jobs will be servicing the machines or doing jobs machines can't do....that, or having a situation of universal income where taxes on labour replacing devices pays for the peoples welfare they replace. Companies like Amazon are moving in this direction- via supermarkets (where the workers restock but no checkouts) or via warehousing (where again you stock the shelves but the robots do the picking).
 
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Rubbernuke

Rubbernuke
Red Anders said:
British politics (all politics to a degree but it seems particularly prevalent here) is overwhelmingly characterised by a focus on the short term, the shorter the better. Slap a band-aid on it and hope for the best because by the time the chickens come home to roost, it will be somebody else's problem.

It was obvious what impact we'd face in certain sectors of the economy when we curtailed the ability of foreign workers to come here to do the jobs that we've spent the last 20+ years telling our kids they're 'too good' for, as we crap them out of university with £30k of debt and degrees that will never significantly benefit them in the employment market. There's a very peculiar snobbery in Britain regarding jobs, where people are dismissive of jobs like distribution and logistics, yet are the first to moan when they can't get petrol, food on the supermarket shelves or a milkshake at McDonalds.
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Its always been the case, depressingly. Low wage workers simply masked a greater problem and where issues like COVID suddenly made these workers very visible. Its quite the perfect storm- IR 35 stupidity, COVID, the B word disrupting things (and not building buffers to mitigate) ships getting stuck, energy costs...alone they'd be manageable but all together its not pretty. The other looming cloud is that some of these issues are not just UK problems.
 

LeoBartlet

LeoBartlet
Rubbernuke said:
Crazy people panic buying is always funny. It was the same with toilet paper and flour. Here in France I could not buy flour for aaaagggesss because people thought buying it made them somehow able to survive longer.

And happeh emergence day Leo :D
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During the early days of lockdown 1.0 here in the wilds of Scotland, I went to the shops one time and they actually had to keep the dry pasta behind the counter to stop people from I presume panic buying multiple bags of the stuff.
 
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