Probably why Fdev ran a hype feature on it and a video with Ed....
Stellar forge 'fixed' to the point of broken
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Probably why Fdev ran a hype feature on it and a video with Ed....
Not seen anything in any post to suggest 2 planets clipping though each other, craters sticking up out of the ground planet or moons in a ring system aren't bugs. They may look interesting, but if they're not intended, any dev team will want to remove them.
I'd like some of the extreme terrain back, and the "safety drop" removed from his exit, or at least an option to turn it off.
I liked crapping my pants on an otherwise uneventful exploration trip.
I'd also like some cataclysms to stumble across. I don't mind if they're quite static, most of them take a long time to change anyway.
But things like two planets that haven't long collided, or are being torn apart by gravity.
But we should still be able to fly down to what's left, even deploy the SRV on the larger bits, and fly down between the chunks of planet. Dangerous, but maybe you can try mining exotic materials down there.
Or jump in to a system not long after a supernova, to extremely dangerous environment.
I liked crapping my pants on an otherwise uneventful exploration trip.
I'd also like some cataclysms to stumble across. I don't mind if they're quite static, most of them take a long time to change anyway.
But things like two planets that haven't long collided, or are being torn apart by gravity.
But we should still be able to fly down to what's left, even deploy the SRV on the larger bits, and fly down between the chunks of planet. Dangerous, but maybe you can try mining exotic materials down there.
Or jump in to a system not long after a supernova, to extremely dangerous environment.
Did they fix it?
Having a virtual limit to our ship's velocity is nonsensical, so is having FTL travel and negative masses.
Both were part of the game's premise when it was sold. Frontier never advertised planets phasing into each other though.
The thing is, every time you see a video of something nonsensical like that, after thinking "that's cool" the first time, you quickly can't help but think "now wouldn't it be even cooler if the game did it properly?". It's always followed by disappointment, you're reminded of yet another aspect of the game that has its limits. And as much as proper handling of cataclysmic events would be nice to have, I'm fairly sure Frontier have their hands more than full already with the things they actually advertised, and which would have a much bigger impact on the game. So why leave broken bits in, which they are not going to fix anytime soon and which give the game a negative image, when you could just remove it and negatively impact virtually nobody.
Also, if blazing your trail involves relying on bug, I'm sorry but just like anybody who exploits in the game, you ought to be disappointed at some point when the exploit gets fixed.
Wrong game - Also see above image
Note that I am just arguing against planets clipping through each other.
Ok you settled for clipping. Fair enough, the image I posted was the Giant's Causeway a real thing right here on earth! which according to Fdev is a bug.
All of these things happen, but they are rarely observed because they are spectacular and short lived. ED cannot currently simulate what happens when planets collide, fall in to a star, or scatter a ring system.
Um...that doesn't happen in real life. At least not more than once per object
Plenty of stars with very diffuse and relatively cool outer layers, that some planets could make multiple orbits through without being destroyed...but their orbits would quickly degrade and then they'd be torn apart and vaporized.
Not in any stable configuration.
Sure, but whether it's worth representing depends on how important detail is.
Yes.
It should be well on it way to another star by now.
It's low hanging fruit in the bug tree. It should be fixed until it can be depicted properly.
That's not a bug, that's just basalt.
Whatever that is, it was never intended to be a basalt column or an exposed igneous intrusion. Such phenomena may not even be geologically possible on the planet shown (basalt columns could theoretically form, but no weather on an airless planet means no way to expose an igneous intrusion) there and even they are, it wouldn't be sticking out of an impact crater.
Regardless, it's unintentional and therefore a bug and superficial similarity to actual phenomena isn't justification to retain it.
OFC, when they created the stellar forge, they had to make some concessions and we still see many consecuences of this, the question at hand is, why is this particular concession not acceptable?
On another note, how is my argument suggesting not to play in the Milky Way?
I'm sorry, ED was never meant to be a realistic game, I know this because I have played a truly realistic game and it's called Kerbal Space Program.
I have seen those videos and the thought never crossed my mind, if you read the comments, you'll see most people disagree with your impression.
Really, take a look at the comments of this video and you'll see how unusual your thoughts are.
[video=youtube;zVYjlih_oC0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVYjlih_oC0[/video]
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You are deliberately missing the point.
You might want to have a chat with Dr. Ross. The game isn't meant to be realistic, Stellar Forge however is.
PS
Also why stop at planets? How about no more collision detection between ships, asteroids, planets and starports? Let's remove collision from the game!
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ED was supposed to have a relatively realistic representation of the Milky Way with plausible depictions of the various bodies, and interactions between those bodies, within.
Outside a few very deliberate exceptions, if it's impossible, it's a bug. If it's a bug, it's a problem. If a problem can be fixed, it should.
That some things are deliberately unrealistic isn't reason to discard or ignore problems with aspects that are supposed to be realistic.
If we want to get pedantic and stretch the physics, it's actually possible for two objects to clip through via quantum tunnelling. ED already has examples of shaky physics (FSD, asteroid bases and Mitterland Hollow).
With respect, I'm confident you have not visited the rest of our galaxy in real life, making assumptions about what features on other worlds cannot have would be foolhardy.
You are deliberately missing the point.
You might want to have a chat with Dr. Ross. The game isn't meant to be realistic, Stellar Forge however is.
You didn't answer my questions and I never said the stellar forge wasn't meant to be realistic.
Because that affects balance and gameplay, two planets clipping through is just an aesthetical issue and a very minor one considering it's rarity.
