Stranded FC's?

I keep reading about this...anybody out there and stranded? Where are you and how much do you need?

I'm thinking about doing a thing.
 
I'm wondering how many people were planning to refuel "on the go", with a close to zero tritium supply on board. It sounds like it's more than I expected.
 
Actually 6,150 tons of that would take up installed services, if you put them all in, let along any ship or module packs that you buy. Plus if you're going anywhere far beyond Colonia distance with that amount of fuel you'd get out but not back. So it would appear that some are genuinely stranded if they flew out expecting to be able to mine what they needed on the way.
 
Heh - there's no-one 'stranded' - I think the word you're looking for is 'impatient', or possible 'workshy' ;)
I think that there is an off chance that there may indeed be some small number of folks actually stranded. I imagine that maybe there were some people who split up the duties and said "Right, I'll schlep you out to see the Zuarara, but I'm not mining one ounce of Tritium." So they recruited miners and took off. Well, when the mining "nerf" hit, I imagine those miners may have gotten cheesed off and either A) quit playing or B) Kilo Bravo'd back to the Bubble. Now you have a CMDR sat in his FC with no mining ships and no way to get back. If that CMDR is out there, I want to get him home.

But you're right, he's probably not out there.
 
I think that there is an off chance that there may indeed be some small number of folks actually stranded. I imagine that maybe there were some people who split up the duties and said "Right, I'll schlep you out to see the Zuarara, but I'm not mining one ounce of Tritium." So they recruited miners and took off. Well, when the mining "nerf" hit, I imagine those miners may have gotten cheesed off and either A) quit playing or B) Kilo Bravo'd back to the Bubble. Now you have a CMDR sat in his FC with no mining ships and no way to get back. If that CMDR is out there, I want to get him home.

But you're right, he's probably not out there.
Ah yes, I forgot about the possibility of ... MUTINY ON THE HIGH SEAS!

Keelhauling is too good for 'em!
 
Not stranded. More like stuck for the moment. My idea was to fill the cargo hold with tritium. But even before the failed patch there wasnt that much available in the Colonia sector. I was however lucky enough to park my fc where I wanted it to be before the mining went south.
 
Stranded is probably too big of a word, but exploration expedition should not be tedious mining by 4-5 people for hours and hours
LHL-31Z "Zodiac" has 19200t Tritium reserves, but I am going into the area that I would not like my crew to scout for "mineable" rings - that what the reserve is for

Current status/position: https://fleetcarrier.space/carrier/LHL-31Z
Expedition: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/expedition-viii-zodiac.548535/

if there is a good soul in the area that wants to contribute and donate some Tritium, we will welcome it with applause :)
 
HUNKPss.png

who needs markets or 'roids ?! :p
 
I'm wondering how many people were planning to refuel "on the go", with a close to zero tritium supply on board. It sounds like it's more than I expected.
On my first trip I did this. It was terribly boring to fill up so I resolved to make some money and buy a cargo hold full of gas for the next one. Which I did just before the bottom fell out of the supply chain.
 
Essentially this is what we know has been happening in terms of 'strandings':

- Carriers on expeditions with planned rendezvous at Trit2 or Trit3 overlaps have been affected by the switch to SD and SSD mining for tritium, and their mining lasers are far less productive. Mercy of Angel is one example of this.

- Over the past few days, the mechanic where an old 'sell order' persists even when your sale has completed, means that cmdrs are coming in and 'buying' tritium from carriers who are in the black en route to somewhere. Not theft, but not very community spirited, and it then means that carrier is then stuck. We just had to organise a rescue/resupply for one yesterday, 10,000ly from the Bubble who was cleaned out overnight. We are now encouraging all carrier owners to check and deactivate sell orders.

- Planned passenger trips and excursions from Colonia are virtually impossible as traders are competing with carrier owners for Tritium supplies, meaning many carriers are effectively just moored up in Colonia.

- Planned long distance adventures from the Bubble are now eye wateringly expensive from the Bubble as cheap tritium is being bought by traders.

- Until the tritium mining mechanic has been resolved, very few carrier owners want to head out to distant sectors.

In terms of carrier 'rescues' or re-supplies, the Fuel Rats will take calls but it's not policy to help out, let's say it's at their discretion and whether a member in the area is keen to help out. The Fleet Carrier Owners Club has helped a coordinate a couple of rescues as described above, and i understand Broken Limpet is keen to do similar.

 
Last edited:
- Over the past few days, the mechanic where an old 'sell order' persists even when your sale has completed, means that cmdrs are coming in and 'buying' tritium from carriers who are in the black en route to somewhere. Not theft, but not very community spirited, and it then means that carrier is then stuck. We just had to organise a rescue/resupply for one yesterday, 10,000ly from the Bubble who was cleaned out overnight. We are now encouraging all carrier owners to check and deactivate sell orders.

This one is new to me, and I'm a little confused. Why are carrier owners putting sell orders up on tritium they intend to use? Or is it that they wanted to sell a small quantity (for whatever reason) and the sell order allows all of it to be sold, regardless of quantity set?

I've been refueling inside the bubble, but honestly, if I saw a sell order on another carrier I'd just assume they wanted to sell, because you have to deliberately create that sell order. Can't fault the other commanders for misinterpreting a sell order when it's publicly accessible.
 
This one is new to me, and I'm a little confused. Why are carrier owners putting sell orders up on tritium they intend to use? Or is it that they wanted to sell a small quantity (for whatever reason) and the sell order allows all of it to be sold, regardless of quantity set?
Likely they had a sell order in the past, maybe to help out another commander, and having completed it's still there as an active "Export"? Indeed it doesn't help that the sell order can't be limited to amount, it's sell all or nothing.

I've been refueling inside the bubble, but honestly, if I saw a sell order on another carrier I'd just assume they wanted to sell, because you have to deliberately create that sell order. Can't fault the other commanders for misinterpreting a sell order when it's publicly accessible.
Perhaps, but if I saw a carrier out in the black with a sell order for their fuel and (likely) a low price, perhaps contacting them (somehow) to confirm would be a good thing to do?

Nevertheless, one situation where they would indeed be wanting to sell is if they intended to decommission and just wanted rid of the stuff quick.
 
There's currently a small, but nasty bug if you use the transfer option with Tritium (I can only reproduce this with Tritium, but no other commodity so I think this must be an oversight): This transfer automatically sets your Tritium for 'sell', which isn't quite obvious and easily overlooked.

Youch! Now I understand, thanks. I can see how someone could be unexpectedly cleaned out now.
 
If this bug happens, can you tell it's happened by looking at the number of "Exports" in the carrier admin (i.e. in the absence of anyting else bring sold, it would be 1 and not 0? If so, a quick check every time Tritium is manipulated would seem to be warranted.
 
Back
Top Bottom