Summer 2024 PDLC speculation

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VSSEMike said:
Speaking of North American nodosaurs already in game; the Sauropelta and Nodosaurus are to be placed on their own. There are no other species in this game that are also discovered in Frontier Formation in Wyoming. It is not viable to put Sauropelta with Deinonychus and Acrocanthosaurus despite sharing the common dig site being Cloverly Formation in Wyoming. Edmontonia can be placed with Edmontosaurus and Pachyrhinosaurus.
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Yes, that's why I think Edmontonia would make such a great addition... plenty of friends to co-exist with it. I'd trade out Nodosaurus for Edmontonia in an instant if I could... not just because the lack of roommates, but because Nodosaurus itself is so poorly understood, the animal we got is literally Borealopelta with the name Nodosaurus attached to it.

As for Sauropelta... it has some potential friends like Tenontosaurus or Zephyrosaurus... key word "potential" as they're not it the game.
 
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It is not just Tenontosaurus and Zephyrosaurus, the following species are doubtful.

From my research records:

- Hadrosaurus: debuted in the original novel version of Jurassic Park.

- Saurolophus: received attention in Dino Riders and Land Before Time franchise.

I have no data on Argentinosaurus and Shantungosaurus, but they have been mentioned in the "Frontier Forums gossip".
 

DragonNTiger

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VSSEMike said:
It is not just Tenontosaurus and Zephyrosaurus, the following species are doubtful.

From my research records:

- Hadrosaurus: debuted in the original novel version of Jurassic Park.

- Saurolophus: received attention in Dino Riders and Land Before Time franchise.

I have no data on Argentinosaurus and Shantungosaurus, but they have been mentioned in the "Frontier Forums gossip".
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Hadrosaurus would be a bit pointless for much the same reason Nodosaurus is... poorly understood and no neighbors to share its habitat...

Argentinosaurus wouldn't add much that Dreadnoughtus already brings... that being a giant South American sauropod with no neighbors...

Saurolophus and Shantungosaurus might be interesting... although, with Tsintaosaurus, it's not exactly an unoccupied niche... not to mention the various hadrosaurs from other parts of the world covering the group fairly well (which is another mark against Hadrosaurus; with Edmontosaurus and Maisaura).

Don't know what exactly "Frontier Forums gossip" is, so I don't know...
 
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DragonNTiger said:
Saurolophus and Shantungosaurus might be interesting... although, with Tsintaosaurus, it's not exactly an unoccupied niche... not to mention the various hadrosaurs from other parts of the world covering the group fairly well (which is another mark against Hadrosaurus; with Edmontosaurus and Maisaura).
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Between 2010s and 2030s, Maiasaura fossils were also discovered in Oldman Formation in Alberta. Maiasaura shared the same dig site as Chasmosaurus, Corythosaurus, Parasaurolophus, and Struthiomimus.

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First occurrence of Maiasaura (Dinosauria, Hadrosauridae) from the Upper Cretaceous Oldman Formation of southern Alberta, Canada

We describe a new partial skull with braincase of a maiasaurin hadrosaurid from the Milk River Ridge Reservoir near Warner, southern Alberta, as the first diagnostic occurrence of Maiasaura in Canada. This material was collected in the Oldman Formation, at approximately the same stratigraphic...
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DragonNTiger

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VSSEMike said:
Between 2010s and 2030s, Maiasaura fossils were also discovered in Oldman Formation in Alberta. Maiasaura shared the same dig site as Chasmosaurus, Corythosaurus, Parasaurolophus, and Struthiomimus.
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Yep... Maiasaura alone pretty much covers everything Hadrosaurus could do, while contributing far more to the game.
 

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DragonNTiger said:
Yep... but without juveniles, it doesn't really factor into the game.
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Before the Jurassic World: Evolution games, Maiasaura appeared in both of the original novels. Maiasaura was about to be added to the games' predecessor Jurassic Park: Operation Genesis, but it was scrapped due to time constraints.
 

gabeluna27

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VSSEMike said:
If the LQA begins this month, will it be an expansion?

Two different YouTube users note that each of the expansion's LQA take up 50 days.
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I think it is, and that it will more than likely release as early as June.

My conclusion is based on the timing it was updated after the last PDLC, the fact Frontier has never released two DLCs for a single game between January and May before, and the fact it has been confirmed in their latest interim report they publish every January-February there was only one paid DLC (revealed to be the Secrets Species Pack two months later) coming to JWE2 for the remainder of FY24 before it ends in May 31st for them.

I would be surprised if this was a 4+ species pack, because that speculation doesn't meet the criteria of what I just said.
 

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gabeluna27 said:
I think it is, and that it will more than likely release as early as June.

My conclusion is based on the timing it was updated after the last PDLC, the fact Frontier has never released two DLCs for a single game between January and May before, and the fact it has been confirmed in their latest interim report they publish every January-February there was only one paid DLC (revealed to be the Secrets Species Pack two months later) coming to JWE2 for the remainder of FY24 before it ends in May 31st for them.

I would be surprised if this was a 4+ species pack, because that speculation doesn't meet the criteria of what I just said.
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@gabeluna27 Thank you for the link to SteamDB, we can monitor what is going on in Jurassic World: Evolution 2.

Are you sure after the new DLC, there will be no new stuff coming in 2024's autumn and December?
 

Mister Random

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Guys, lets get some facts together. The DLC steam item was created 19 days ago, and yesterday the content was sent for testing. In the past, when we got BIG updates it took 2-3 months of work between dlc steam item creation and sending finished content for testing.

The devs are doing really great work, but they are not magicians. Do you really expect they made a big update in 20-30% time it usually takes?
 

Gondwana

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Mister Random said:
Guys, lets get some facts together. The DLC steam item was created 19 days ago, and yesterday the content was sent for testing. In the past, when we got BIG updates it took 2-3 months of work between dlc steam item creation and sending finished content for testing.

The devs are doing really great work, but they are not magicians. Do you really expect they made a big update in 20-30% time it usually takes?
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What DLC steam item?
 

VSSEMike

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gabeluna27 said:
I have no reason to believe so for good reasons.
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@gabeluna27 A friend who plays this game in PlayStation said to me, "To be honest, all three of the Jurassic World films made over 1 billion dollars, so there was no way they weren't making a sequel".

With a new film instalment of the Jurassic Park franchise in making, there is no telling what Frontier will do when the movie comes out next year. The future of this game is still in question after the new DLC comes out.
 

gabeluna27

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VSSEMike said:
@gabeluna27 A friend who plays this game in PlayStation said to me, "To be honest, all three of the Jurassic World films made over 1 billion dollars, so there was no way they weren't making a sequel".

With a new film instalment of the Jurassic Park franchise in making, there is no telling what Frontier will do when the movie comes out next year. The future of this game is still in question after the new DLC comes out.
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None of that necessarily matters, no matter how popular those thoughts are or how reasonable they sound. My reasonings are these:


On a Newsweek Magazine interview published on late November of 2021, with JWE2's director Rich Newbold explained that right after they finished RTJP for JWE1, the team moved on to develop JWE2 to explore new storytelling opportunities with Universal's help, switching from a non-canon-fitting approach to a more canon-fitting approach. Besides, it was a game they had to make because of their subtle confirmation of the game's greenlight in March of 2019, which could've been in progress to be so as early as late 2018 for all we know.

Speaking of which and more importantly, Frontier have always signed a license for all known non-own-IP license titles they have.
  • JWE1 and JWE2 were first hinted to be greenlit through license signings via trading reports with subtle hints. They wouldn't be known to be JWE games until they day of announcement (eight months later) and the day after announcement (roughly two and a half years later) respectively.
  • Frontier's Warhammer: Age of Sigmar game (2023) was announced to be greenlit on the day they've reported to have signed a license agreement in 2020.
  • Their four F1 Manger games were all first announced together when Frontier reported to have signed a license with F1 back in 2020, for 2022 to 2025 releases each.
Reporting on license agreements for new games is not necessarily important for developers to do, but Frontier have done so for each known license game, and it would be great news for them to report for the comeback strategies and results publications.

While there are two other CMS games for FY26 and FY27, none of them indicate being license games because it doesn't fit their own style I just explained, and all may be "own-IP" games instead, like their upcoming FY25 game. They can't be Jurassic games, let alone any non-own-IP license games, of any kind.
 
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VSSEMike

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gabeluna27 said:
None of that necessarily matters, no matter how popular those thoughts are or how reasonable they sound. My reasonings are these:


On a Newsweek Magazine interview published on late November of 2021, with JWE2's director Rich Newbold explained that right after they finished RTJP for JWE1, the team moved on to develop JWE2 to explore new storytelling opportunities with Universal's help, switching from a non-canon-fitting approach to a more canon-fitting approach. Besides, it was a game they had to make because of their subtle confirmation of the game's greenlight in March of 2019, which could've been in progress to be so as early as late 2018 for all we know.

Speaking of which and more importantly, Frontier have always signed a license for all known non-own-IP license titles they have.
  • JWE1 and JWE2 were first hinted to be greenlit through license signings via trading reports with subtle hints. They wouldn't be known to be JWE games until they day of announcement (eight months later) and the day after announcement (roughly two and a half years later) respectively.
  • Frontier's WarhammerL Age of Sigmar game (2023) was announced to be greenlit on the day they've reported to have signed a license agreement in 2020.
  • Their four F1 Manger games were all first announced together when Frontier reported to have signed a license with F1 back in 2020, for 2022 to 2025 releases each.
Reporting on license agreements for new games is not necessarily important for developers to do, but Frontier have done so for each known license game, and it would be great news for them to report for the comeback strategies and results publications.

While there are two other CMS games for FY26 and FY27, none of them indicate being license games because it doesn't fit their own style I just explained, and all may be "own-IP" games instead, like their upcoming FY25 game. They can't be Jurassic games, let alone any non-own-IP license games, of any kind.
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@gabeluna27 If I am not mistaken, FY stands for financial year, is it not?

There was a time this year that Frontier said that they are focusing on the "creative management simulation" games especially Planet Zoo and Jurassic World: Evolution 2. What are the other two CMS games besides these two?

Anything for us to know about FY25, FY26, and FY27?

The reason why I play Jurassic World: Evolution 1 & 2 is to see living breathing dinosaurs especially those that are not included in Jurassic Park: Operation Genesis. Given that Jurassic World: Evolution 2 have a number of convenient improvements, I have not played Jurassic World: Evolution 1 for like a year or so.

I guess fantasy stuff is what attracted me to play Disneyland Adventures that is also made by Frontier, but it is not in the category of "creative management simulation". The "Jungle Cruise" of Disneyland Adventures made me wonder would it be better if the attractions akin to Jungle River Cruise in Jurassic Park era/ Cretaceous Cruise in Jurassic World era be included in Jurassic World: Evolution 2. It has to do with "dinosaurs spice things up".
 
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