FTFY.
News Support update - Reiteration of player harassment rules
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FTFY.
When we cross paths between Virtual and Real sometimes we need to remember where 'Respect is due'!! charity live streams and events are generally there to selflessly serve the greater good of real life and often vulnerable people and those who attempt to disrupt these types of events for whatever reason have no morality; they may as well pop round to my house, wait for my son to come out and go kick him out of his wheelchair and smash it up just for giggles.
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That's a fair point. Unfortunately they are a vocal few who compares "invading" Mobius to literally murdering people in real life.
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While I can see where your thought process is with this, people often conveniently neglect that we are making a lot of these streams much more exciting to view and we ALWAYS donate to charity streams that we snipe. We aren't trying to shut the streams down we are just having a bit of fun and often adding some excitement to the stream for the viewers.
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I personally don't stream so I wouldn't know. From experience I can say that when you mess with big streams some of the audience calls you an <Ahem> and some of them call you a hero and think it's hilarious but overall it usually causes a surge in activity/ the amount of people actually paying attention to the stream. Whether they agree with the manner or not, excitement is excitement and you can't claim it doesn't happen.
OK, so there's a disabled event in your local town or area doing a sponsored fun-run for a good cause, you'd be ok with rackin up unannounced with a few of ya mates, kick a few easy targets out of their wheelchairs for laughs assuming it would make things more exiting for everyone and then think it's ok to pass them a quick tenner or more for their troubles and to normalise your actions? Oh, I'm pretty sure as you say it would draw more of a crowd in but I'm not convinced it's for the right reasons. I don't suppose you've thought, or had the respect, to speak with the charity streamer(s) up front first; I'm sure you might be right as you say and most wouldn't mind but are you and your crew then the kind or persons to leave alone the ones who ask you to? ......mmm
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Yep, i agree, security levels in elite are joke! Anarchy is same as any other systems where no cops ever shows up. Since they are chasing all those smugglers in unpopulated systems from Robigo and others.
If security actually worked, we wouldn't need groups like Mobius, we'd just have players sticking in secure zones.
There's your fundamental disconnect. We interrupted an in game event to help a real life cause. If you can't distinguish the two then perhaps you are TOO immersed in the Elite universe to not realize that we are spicing up a GAME for a real life cause. Kicking disabled people isn't part of a fun-run, clubbing seals is part of the game.
The only universe I'm too immersed in is that of RESPECT; a universe I suspect you and others like you were not born into or bought up in. Someone who continues to use the word GAME to justify or excuse their actions during an organised charitable event is the one fundamentally disconnected; seeking the charity event organiser's pre consent to disrupt it, whether or not game rules/game mechanics/game whatever the excuse apply, is and should have been the RESPECTFUL thing to do, when, it involves real life cause for possible real life donation, period!
Prove to me (remember! only in ourselves do we trust, everyone else provides evidence) that you are qualified to assume that you help real life causes by disrupting them to 'spice' them up; Oh, and Liam signed 'thank you' for giving it some thought
I find that loosing my ship takes something out of the immersion. I want my ship to have been with me for a time, and gotten me though some scrapes. Maybe when we can name ships and I can distinguish between the old and new one when I am destroyed, this would help, e.g. Starcatcher IV has survived well, it's a tough old ship.
I personally don't see a problem with PvP if it's done with honor. i.e. knocking off new players where there is no challenge isn't honorable, or destoying unarmed trade ships without giving them the option to give over some cargo isn't honorable. I don't mind getting knocked about a bit by another player if I'm given a fair shot of escape or fighting back, that would be one of the scrapes I'd want my ship to have gotten me though. But if a whole bunch of ships come at me with no warning and destroy me in 2 seconds that just pointless for everyone and plays a part in ruining the realism for me.
It always irks me to see users such as yourself bring real life morals and values into this forum and make assumptions about the type of people we are when you truly don't have the slightest clue. We range from career stoners to surgeons to those serving our country and you have the right to make assumptions about our upbringing and values but you should also know you are dead wrong. We are simply able to separate our actions on the internet from our lives off of the internet. Perhaps that is something you should look into. Messing with some people in a game that not only allows it but advertises it != kicking someone in a disabled charity event. Anyone in their right mind can make that distinction and perhaps you'd be better off not making assumptions about the character of those you interact with.
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Realistically speaking, serial killers are very much a thing and space provides a huge boost in the viability of becoming one. Does the security system being so lenient make that number a little disproportional? Possibly. Is it realistic that there are murderers and serial killers doing it for the fun? Well of course considering they already exist and you need to keep in mind that in the lore sense of things they aren't even really murders or serial killers, they are people who enjoy blowing up ships and allowing the pilot to escape to fight another day.
The way you act in a role playing game shows who you realy are . Proven fact by psychologist .
Says every 1st year psychology student.
Just to let you know i am an engineer .
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It doesn't actually. There was a kind of interesting masters paper written by a chap on Days about this that was doing the rounds athe one point, which kind of relates to this as it was at the time you had the core Mil-Sim ArmA community having to deal with the influx of 'COD kiddies'
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In order for something to be a proven fact it needs to be at the very least sourced yea? Considering I can think of many different ways this is already wrong I'm going to assume you don't have a source. If you're going to argue a point atleast don't make things up.
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Which field of engineering? Are you still studying? So little information and a completely irrelevant response at that.
From the reactions to his last couple of posts I'd guess "social". Seems pretty good at it, too.
In the quote you reference of mine, do I not actually say the word 'Universe' twice and does that sound like real life to you or lore life ugh? if you're a career stoner dude I'd role another one! But you did hit the nail perfectly on the head with your "We are simply able to separate our actions on the internet from our lives off of the internet" quote. You may be quite capable of separating your actions on the internet from your life off the internet, you're just unable to respectfully appreciate the consequences of your actions on the internet on 'other peoples' lives off the internet when you're the type of person/game avatar/RP player/whoever willing to publically humiliate persons involved with charity events for real life causes via youtube/twitch/whatever (which is world wide and if not real life then I've lived in a comma for past 56 years), and still insist upon using terms like 'on the internet' and 'off the internet' as an excuse to separate you're worlds as if sat in front of your computer or playin a computer game in public whilst in the 21st century of modern technological living somehow should isolate you from 'real life'; get real man!
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