Thargoid invasion - Next target systems?

[yttrbio]

It's pretty inconsistent with what I saw in control systems, but I can think of a few possibilities:

1. Scout kills (or maybe kills in general) are just worth a lot more proportionally in Alert systems than they are in Control systems (Using Carpets's numbers, it looked to be about 5x)
2. There is some kind of "complete the Orthrus instance" value to progress that is being triggered, even if the Orthrus leaves.

 

[Aleks Zuno]

Victories in Nu Guang, Vistnero, Col 285 Sectors NG-E b12-1, HL-O c6-5, JG-O c6-5, SM-C b13-0 and SM-C b13-3, Nihal, Asletae, Canaharvas and HIP 26688!

Evictions at 06:50 4th July 3309:
Col 285 Sector ZE-P c6-11 Control 60% — Cocijo 29 Ly, ~594 strength
Vucumatha Control 28% *28.3% — Cocijo 23 Ly, ~1907 strength
HIP 37520 Control 22% — Cocijo 30 Ly, ~1153 strength

Alerts:
Paeni Alert 88% *88.1% — Taranis 27 Ly, 404 Ls starport, 571 Ls outpost, 403 Ls planet
Pathamon Alert 84% — Leigong 22 Ly, 105 Ls starport, 105 Ls planet
Ngolite Alert 50% — Raijin 27 Ly, 48 Ls starport
HIP 19157 Alert 42% — Indra 22 Ly, 705 Ls starport, 217 Ls planet
Less likely, perhaps one:
HIP 19757 Alert 26% — Indra 25 Ly, 2256 Ls planet
Jawul Alert 20% — Raijin 27 Ly, 3045 Ls starport, 3028 Ls outpost, 3063 Ls planet

 

[Aleks Zuno]

Victories in Paeni and Pegasi Sector YQ-J a10-3!

Evictions at 18:00 4th July 3309:
Col 285 Sector ZE-P c6-11 Control 76% — Cocijo 29 Ly, ~356 strength
HIP 20056 Control 28% *29.9% — Indra 24 Ly, ~1621 strength
Vucumatha Control 28% *28.3% — Cocijo 23 Ly, ~1907 strength
HIP 37520 Control 22% — Cocijo 30 Ly, ~1153 strength

Alerts:
Pathamon Alert 94% — Leigong 22 Ly, 105 Ls starport, 194 Ls outpost, 105 Ls planet
Ngolite Alert 60% *60.4% — Raijin 27 Ly, 48 Ls starport, 2873 Ls planet
Slightly ahead:
HIP 19157 Alert 46% — Indra 22 Ly, 705 Ls starport, 217 Ls planet
Slightly behind:
Jawul Alert 32% — Raijin 27 Ly, 3045 Ls starport, 3028 Ls outpost, 3063 Ls planet
HIP 19757 Alert 28% *29% — Indra 25 Ly, 2256 Ls planet


The plan at the moment is to ease M. Taranis a bit, starting with Haushu and some of the systems around it. Hyades Sectors ZZ-O b6-1 and ZZ-O b6-2 have been consistent top attackers for far too long!

That aside, which systems within reasonable accomplishment ought to be on the eviction menu? Perhaps a storm at M. Taranis to break its targeting completely, a massive clean-up around M. Cocijo just so we get a week with over a hundred total, a recapture of as many previously-inhabited systems as possible, or somewhere in particular for a specific reason?

 

[Starsong]

That aside, which systems within reasonable accomplishment ought to be on the eviction menu? Perhaps a storm at M. Taranis to break its targeting completely, a massive clean-up around M. Cocijo just so we get a week with over a hundred total, a recapture of as many previously-inhabited systems as possible, or somewhere in particular for a specific reason?

I’m not sure how much effort clearing the cluster would take or whether it’s actually worth it for the effect it’ll have on Taranis’ actual alert placement, but if Matshiru and a couple uninhabiteds get cleared there’s a region of space the Maelstrom won’t be able to get to without recapturing HIP 25679.

 

[Phill P]

The plan at the moment is to ease M. Taranis a bit, starting with Haushu and some of the systems around it. Hyades Sectors ZZ-O b6-1 and ZZ-O b6-2 have been consistent top attackers for far too long!

That aside, which systems within reasonable accomplishment ought to be on the eviction menu? Perhaps a storm at M. Taranis to break its targeting completely, a massive clean-up around M. Cocijo just so we get a week with over a hundred total, a recapture of as many previously-inhabited systems as possible, or somewhere in particular for a specific reason?

We can contain Taranis but could really use some Controls being cleared out there.

 

[Aleks Zuno]

I’m not sure how much effort clearing the cluster would take or whether it’s actually worth it for the effect it’ll have on Taranis’ actual alert placement, but if Matshiru and a couple uninhabiteds get cleared there’s a region of space the Maelstrom won’t be able to get to without recapturing HIP 25679.

While HIP 25679 is not the only conceivable way there given that Hyades Sector FB-N b7-3 can see Imeut, those look a bit isolated indeed! If I recall, Matshiru also was attacked very early and become Control quite quickly, having only one port. At just within 20 Ly it is not insurmountable at somewhere around 5000 strength; I will keep that idea in mind!

We can contain Taranis but could really use some Controls being cleared out there.

On it! Haushu now awaits delivery, where that one plus a few others nearby will help ease this troublesome trio:

I think we can put Ge and HIP 26926 out of reach tonight; after that, it sounds as if an appropriate plan tomorrow will be to take Vogulmangoi to protect Pentam, then probably clear out some weaker attackers further down and leave you with Senocidi, Trianguli Sector GG-Y c18 and Namayu for now.

 

[deanom59]

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I followed a link (https://dev.iniv.space/targets/28) to your targets list but the oya section includes controls that have been cleared. is there a newer version of this?

 

[Aleks Zuno]

I followed a link (https://dev.iniv.space/targets/28) to your targets list but the oya section includes controls that have been cleared. is there a newer version of this?

Of course! Try the week 31 version to see the attacks remaining until they occur on Thursday.

 

[CMDR Vulkarius]

@deanom59 - you can change the number in the URL to ask INTRA for a report based on how things were/are on different cycles.
31 is now, next one will be 32 after I get a chance to input/import the new alerts and set who attacked what!
Bit clunky I know - it's a test for part of what I hope will be a more tactical view which also includes the harvest amounts.

 

[Phill P]

If I recall, Matshiru also was attacked very early and become Control quite quickly, having only one port.

It was a victim of the timer bug which was ticking down one week every day for the first couple of weeks. A few like that just got consumed before anyone could do a thing.

On it! Haushu now awaits delivery, where that one plus a few others nearby will help ease this troublesome trio:

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I think we can put Ge and HIP 26926 out of reach tonight; after that, it sounds as if an appropriate plan tomorrow will be to take Vogulmangoi to protect Pentam, then probably clear out some weaker attackers further down and leave you with Senocidi, Trianguli Sector GG-Y c18 and Namayu for now.

Sounds like a plan. Do we know how many Alerts are predicted for next week? Sorry if you've already said.

 

[Aleks Zuno]

Do we know how many Alerts are predicted for next week? Sorry if you've already said.

If you mean across the Galaxy, I have not made special mention recently, although I do include that now in the report at the top or in week 31!

Maelstroms Hadad and Thor each lose two attacks, and Leigong loses four attacks.

If you mean at M. Taranis specifically, it has 33 targets so probably it will get all five Alerts. The top six are inhabited, and I am attempting to reduce that to become at most three this cycle!

 

[Phill P]

If you mean across the Galaxy, I have not made special mention recently, although I do include that now in the report at the top or in week 31!


If you mean at M. Taranis specifically, it has 33 targets so probably it will get all five Alerts. The top six are inhabited, and I am attempting to reduce that to become at most three this cycle!

I just meant how many in general, will it go down or up from 24.

 

[Aleks Zuno]

I just meant how many in general, will it go down or up from 24.

Up to 32 with probably 17 inhabited at present, 13–14 inhabited after our meddling—assuming the Thargoid Council does not misbehave too much. We are able to ensure that the full 40 will be quite rare now, although getting down to 24 involved quite a bit of lucky alignment!

Reducing the M. Thor attacks a bit further is an option, albeit not really as good as continuing to collapse the M. Taranis target options. That said, I did ask—if it would be most pleasing to see 31 Alerts rather than 32, that can be arranged!

 

[PapaDragon_I]

The sampels for HIP 24329 has been collected

 

[deanom59]

Excellent.

 

[Aleks Zuno]

Victories in Haushu, Hyades Sectors GW-W d1-81, NS-T c3-14, ZZ-O b6-1 and ZZ-O b6-2, Ngolite and Pathamon! It sounds as if HIP 24329 is awaiting delivery over at M. Oya (well done to SNPX!), and our gradual collapse of M. Taranis targets will continue later with at least Vogulmangoi and Hyades Sector NS-T c3-12.

Evictions at 07:20 5th July 3309:
Col 285 Sector ZE-P c6-11 Control 80% — Cocijo 29 Ly, ~297 strength
HIP 20056 Control 30% *31.1% — Indra 24 Ly, ~1593 strength
Vucumatha Control 28% *28.3% — Cocijo 23 Ly, ~1907 strength
HIP 37520 Control 22% *22.3% — Cocijo 30 Ly, ~1148 strength

Alerts, Wednesday caution:
Bormuninus Alert 82% *83.4% — Raijin 24 Ly, 45 Ls outpost, 63 Ls planet
Jawul Alert 62% — Raijin 27 Ly, 3045 Ls starport, 3028 Ls outpost, 3063 Ls planet
Slightly behind:
HIP 19757 Alert 56% — Indra 25 Ly, 2256 Ls planet
HIP 19157 Alert 52% *52.3% — Indra 22 Ly, 705 Ls starport, 217 Ls planet

 

[Aleks Zuno]

Victories in Bormuninus and HIP 24329 (thank you SNPX)! Alerts are almost entirely clear, and Col 285 Sector ZE-P c6-11 is a very modest amount short of completion. I could visit it later, though will be hoping otherwise!

Hyades Sector NS-T c3-12 awaits delivery, and along with Vogulmangoi underway now it should ease M. Taranis a good amount next week.

Evictions at 19:40 5th July 3309:
Col 285 Sector ZE-P c6-11 Control 98% *99.4% — Cocijo 29 Ly, ~9 strength
HIP 20056 Control 42% *42.5% — Indra 24 Ly, ~1330 strength
Vucumatha Control 30% *30.1% — Cocijo 23 Ly, ~1859 strength
HIP 37520 Control 22% *22.3% — Cocijo 30 Ly, ~1148 strength

Alerts, Wednesday caution:
HIP 19757 Alert 84% — Indra 25 Ly, 2256 Ls planet
Narrowly:
Jawul Alert 80% *81.4% — Raijin 27 Ly, 3045 Ls starport, 3028 Ls outpost, 3063 Ls planet
Unlikely:
HIP 19157 Alert 64% *64.2% — Indra 22 Ly, 705 Ls starport, 217 Ls planet

 

[Aleks Zuno]

Goodness; victories in Jawul, HIP 19757 and—quite thankfully—Col 285 Sector ZE-P c6-11!

Vogulmangoi and Hyades Sector NS-T c3-12 have just been delivered a bit earlier than usual, so that we will have a bit of time to observe the result and fix any miscalculations. In the meantime, M. Taranis will get a little more trimming further down its target list; at least Trianguli Sector ZJ-A b1 and Hyades Sector YZ-O b6-0 to keep Hyades Sector YZ-O b6-3 out of reach, then anything further will be based on remaining time but otherwise fine to resume next cycle!

 

[Aleks Zuno]

Victories in Hyades Sectors NS-T c3-12 and YZ-O b6-0, Vogulmangoi, HIPs 19157 and 25840, and Trianguli Sector ZJ-A b1! That becomes seventy-five systems, including every Invasion and Alert. Well done again to Commanders who continue to recapture populated systems; it is becoming quite the steady feature with seven of those this week.

Hopefully this also helps to start M. Taranis on a path of deflation; two weeks ago its targets would begin with a wall of at least ten inhabited. it started this week with six plus another in eighth, and it ends this week with three. That is unless it reaches past five empty systems to attack Cheditjala of course, but I presume that would at least have much value to help understand when and why that happens!

The Hyades Sector AV-O b6-5 Overachievement Award goes to Awara for reporting 178.3%, just a fraction above HIP 2422 at 178.1%!

 

[Aleks Zuno]

Week 32, 6th July 3309​

Report
Thirty-two Alerts repelled at Trianguli Sectors JW-W b1-1 and GG-Y c18, Hyades Sector EG-N b7-5, Col 285 Sectors CA-E b13-1, SX-Z b14-1, NG-E b12-3, JA-G b11-3, NG-E b12-4 and UD-G b12-2, Cephei Sectors ZE-A c8 and ZZ-Y b3, Arietis Sector AQ-P b5-3, HIPs 3006, 4041, 20485 and 21380, Pegasi Sectors WK-L a9-3, QZ-M a8-0, QE-N a8-3, WK-L a9-1 and LY-O a7-0, Senocidi, HR 1403, Bi Dhorora, Gliese 9035, Vogulu, 69 Upsilon Tauri, Namayu, Hez Ur, 65 Kappa Tauri, Desurinbin and Khwal.
Fifty-nine Control evictions at Col 285 Sectors HL-O c6-3, HL-O c6-4, UH-C b13-0, UH-C b13-2, EA-Q c5-12, EA-Q c5-16, IA-G b11-1, MQ-F b11-3, NQ-F b11-1 and QX-U d2-48, HIPs 6869, 20056, 26534 and 25670, Wangakwan, Trianguli Sectors KR-W b1-5, JR-W b1-5, FG-Y d96, JW-W b1-6, KR-W b1-4, KR-W b1-1 and FL-Y b5, Pegasi Sectors NY-O a7-4, EB-W b2-2, RE-N a8-3, AR-J a10-3, QE-N a8-4, NY-O a7-0 and FB-X c1-22, Arietis Sectors KM-W d1-93 and AQ-P b5-2, Hyades Sectors EG-N b7-4, GW-W d1-86, GB-N b7-3, QN-T c3-10, PN-T c3-5, PN-T c3-7, QN-T c3-11, AA-P b6-0, AA-P b6-5, OS-T c3-0, OS-T c3-1, OS-T c3-2, CV-O b6-6, DQ-O b6-2, DQ-O b6-4, EQ-O b6-2, HB-N b7-0, EG-N b7-3, GW-W d1-82, GW-W d1-88, XO-Q b5-3, FB-N b7-3 and IM-L b8-5, Rikbakara, Ceti Sector XJ-A c18, Jementi, Matshiru and Ildano.
Seven recaptured systems starting Recovery are Wangakwan, Rikbakara, Arietis Sector AQ-P b5-2, HIP 20056, Jementi, Matshiru and Ildano.
Maelstrom Oya loses one attack, Taranis* loses two attacks, and Leigong and Thor are unable to attack.
*Unless it misbehaves and attacks at slightly beyond 10 Ly.

Targets updated at 06:40 13th July 3309
Omumba Control 18% *18.6% — Hadad 14 Ly
HIP 37520 Control 6% *7.4% — Cocijo 30 Ly
Col 285 Sector RH-B b14-4 Control 6% *6.8% — Hadad 16 Ly, empty
Vucumatha Control 6% *6.6% — Cocijo 23 Ly
Hyades Sector QI-S b4-2 Control 4% — Indra 25 Ly, empty
Mapon Control 2% *3.8% — Cocijo 18 Ly
29 e Orionis Control 2% *3% — Taranis 22 Ly
HIP 21654 Control 2% *2.7% — Indra 26 Ly, empty
HIP 9607 Control 2% *2.1% — Leigong 32 Ly
HIP 19198 Control 2% — Thor 17 Ly
19 Puppis Control 2% — Cocijo 27 Ly, empty

Notes
The Alert report lists predicted attackers which can be stopped this cycle.
The Alert systems 65 Kappa Tauri, Desurinbin and Trianguli Sector GG-Y c18 have residual port conflicts, with minor fines due to a no-fire zone.

Operations
Delivery for Gandje is scheduled next week. Update
Harvest for Chernobo is ~55% complete. Update
Harvest for Njorog has begun; sell to Ascension Light KLW-52M in Hyades Sector NS-T c3-12. Update

Week 31, 29th June 3309​

Report
Twenty-four Alerts repelled at Col 285 Sectors TS-Z b14-3, PM-B b14-5, AP-F b12-2, AF-P c6-16 and BA-P c6-8, Arietis Sector JR-V b2-2, Pegasi Sector GW-V b2-3, Awara, HIPs 2422, 21991, 20527, 20491, 26688, 19757 and 19157, Nu Guang, Nihal, Asletae, Canaharvas, Paeni, Ngolite, Pathamon, Bormuninus and Jawul.
Five Invasions defended at HIPs 20899, 29596 and 20890, Unktety and Koko Oh.
Forty-six Control evictions at Arietis Sectors EW-N b6-1 and VO-R b4-4, Col 285 Sectors OR-B b14-9, OR-B b14-4, PM-B b14-3, KW-M c7-12, KW-M c7-29, KW-M c7-31, RM-B b14-0, RM-B b14-2, GF-G b11-5, HF-G b11-2, IA-G b11-2, RM-B b14-8, VS-Z b14-0, WN-Z b14-5, NG-E b12-1, HL-O c6-5, JG-O c6-5, SM-C b13-0, SM-C b13-3 and ZE-P c6-11, HIPs 5685, 6380, 111081, 20509, 20489, 24329 and 25840, Pegasi Sectors RE-N a8-1, XQ-J a10-0, OI-S b4-4, RE-N a8-4 and YQ-J a10-3, Muchihiks, 90 c1 Tauri, Vistnero, Haushu, Hyades Sectors GW-W d1-81, NS-T c3-14, ZZ-O b6-1, ZZ-O b6-2, NS-T c3-12 and YZ-O b6-0, Vogulmangoi and Trianguli Sector ZJ-A b1.
In addition to the defended Invasions, seven recaptured systems starting Recovery are Muchihiks, HIPs 20509 and 24329, Vistnero, Haushu, Col 285 Sector ZE-P c6-11 and Vogulmangoi.
Maelstroms Hadad and Thor each lose two attacks, and Leigong loses four attacks.