It may be a little too early, but congratulations to all of you made the Taranis-plan work. Very well done!
Thargoid invasion - Next target systems?
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Indeed! We have the final ten remaining, and around a one-third chunk for HR 1737 collected earlier puts us at ~75% ready, which is very far in advance considering that we have also all of next week. Everything relies on the Periphery completion!
That seems fair, I think—if the Spire sites are as critical as Professor Palin imagines, a little more resistance than a pure Orthrus slaughter ought to be expected!
Thank you—I was not aware of the Alert requirement! I will correct the wording at the top immediately; it has been simply this for a while:
That seems fair, I think—if the Spire sites are as critical as Professor Palin imagines, a little more resistance than a pure Orthrus slaughter ought to be expected!
Thank you—I was not aware of the Alert requirement! I will correct the wording at the top immediately; it has been simply this for a while:
Needing an Alert system seems awfully specific and a strange Frontier decision; for example, having to coerce an Alert in Hez Ur just to get missions for Mapon.
They could originally be obtained in any system within range, even clear of any Thargoid state. Then Frontier “fixed” that to make it their intended design of only appearing within alerts and invasions with… U16, I believe?
I guess it falls in the idea of war-specific activities being limited to those states/systems, but is just a little too specific for this particular type. If the range were extended to 30 light years or higher, it would at least reduce the frequency of them not appearing, if populated alerts are available.
At this point, now that we have Spire missions from the Rescue megaships, I would have thought said megaships would suffice for both AX restoration and AX reactivation missions!
At the time of the change, Indra and Raijin especially were reliably throwing out several inhabited Alerts each week, and Oya and Cocijo were reasonably reliable for inhabited Alerts too.
Moving them (or perhaps copying them, since I believe they do also help the Alert system) to rescue ships would make sense nowadays.
This system/spire is cleared but has either glitched out or there is something very strange going on - there are presently roughly 20 medusas flying around the spire in open, with more jumping in...
I think spires currently do not stop like the other systems(despite the contrary message) until the cycle ends. Least they didn’t so far.
Though, if this is only happening now and not before the site was cleared, I can only say the Thargoids are a bit late at coming to the site’s defense in such manner. (And that it is very odd.) Is (Was) anyone active there?
Currently at HR 1358 collecting goods to later use for sabotage. I rarely see anyone at the spires despite bing in open and going to the ones that indicate a concerted effort. Yesterday was 1 type 10. Today was 0 anything. At least it was on a lit side of the moon.
Need a panzer brigade to clear out banshees. I mean can do them one at a time but its super time consuming.
Need a panzer brigade to clear out banshees. I mean can do them one at a time but its super time consuming.
Victories in HIPs 23816 and 23716, Hyades Sectors BV-O b6-4, GB-N b7-1, FB-N b7-0 and DQ-O b6-0, Trianguli Sector BA-A d85, Arietis Sectors WJ-R b4-3, FG-Y d66 and KM-W c1-15, Col 285 Sectors RM-B b14-0, OR-B b14-4 and KW-M c7-29, and indeed—well done and thank you to PDES—Njorog! The latter remains the strongest Alert repelled, having done so once before in week 39, and if everything follows the plan next week it should be never again.
With thanks to those stockpiling Titan rescues for next week at M. Taranis, notably M. Indra has a feasible Periphery completion upcoming. This time, such is actually needed to proceed sensibly beyond four unnecessary Matrix systems congesting its outer ten, and the boost for three inhabited systems is worth somewhat more than the single system last week.
Peripheries at 07:50 12th November 3309:
Ten systems with 40% — Indra 21–23 Ly, 4 matrix + 3 inhabited, 185–2369 strength
Six systems with 6% — Thor 18–25 Ly, 1 inhabited, 1403–6330 strength
Alerts:
HIP 25679 Alert 76% *76.9% — Taranis 17 Ly, 108 Ls outpost, 1960 Ls planet, Peripheral system
Nibelaako Alert 38% — Raijin 22 Ly, 519 Ls starport, 519 Ls planet
Gliese 9035 Alert 32% — Oya 20 Ly, 556 Ls planet, Peripheral system
Clean-up:
Cephei Sector AV-Y b2 Alert 94% *94.8% — Oya 18 Ly
Cephei Sector BV-Y b2 Alert 84% *85.4% — Oya 16 Ly
Arietis Sector FL-X b1-0 Control 72% — Indra 23 Ly, 185 strength, Peripheral system
HR 1358 Matrix 70% *70.8% — Indra 22 Ly
Arietis Sector HG-X b1-3 Control 70% — Indra 22 Ly, 234 strength, Peripheral system
HIP 22350 Matrix 40% *40.6% — Indra 22 Ly
Hyades Sector ST-Q b5-5 Matrix 40% *40.6% — Indra 22 Ly
Arietis Sector HG-X b1-0 Matrix 40% — Indra 21 Ly
With thanks to those stockpiling Titan rescues for next week at M. Taranis, notably M. Indra has a feasible Periphery completion upcoming. This time, such is actually needed to proceed sensibly beyond four unnecessary Matrix systems congesting its outer ten, and the boost for three inhabited systems is worth somewhat more than the single system last week.
Peripheries at 07:50 12th November 3309:
Ten systems with 40% — Indra 21–23 Ly, 4 matrix + 3 inhabited, 185–2369 strength
Six systems with 6% — Thor 18–25 Ly, 1 inhabited, 1403–6330 strength
Alerts:
HIP 25679 Alert 76% *76.9% — Taranis 17 Ly, 108 Ls outpost, 1960 Ls planet, Peripheral system
Nibelaako Alert 38% — Raijin 22 Ly, 519 Ls starport, 519 Ls planet
Gliese 9035 Alert 32% — Oya 20 Ly, 556 Ls planet, Peripheral system
Clean-up:
Cephei Sector AV-Y b2 Alert 94% *94.8% — Oya 18 Ly
Cephei Sector BV-Y b2 Alert 84% *85.4% — Oya 16 Ly
Arietis Sector FL-X b1-0 Control 72% — Indra 23 Ly, 185 strength, Peripheral system
HR 1358 Matrix 70% *70.8% — Indra 22 Ly
Arietis Sector HG-X b1-3 Control 70% — Indra 22 Ly, 234 strength, Peripheral system
HIP 22350 Matrix 40% *40.6% — Indra 22 Ly
Hyades Sector ST-Q b5-5 Matrix 40% *40.6% — Indra 22 Ly
Arietis Sector HG-X b1-0 Matrix 40% — Indra 21 Ly
I bodged together a live activity report months ago, been defunct for a while due to no port attacks.
Just updated it today to merge in spires as well - https://dev.iniv.space/pilots/
It's limited to EDDN and doesn't mean the CMDRs are in open play or there to clear/farm it, just an indication which could help
For what it's worth, sent the folk following AXI **Combat targets over when the spires finished in Taranis - figure same as your note last week, return the favour a bit, plus its the region really showing progress.
Given Orthrus chasing and sabotage/combat interceptor work seems somewhat mutually exclusive, been roughly directing sabotage efforts to ST-Q b5-5, and (as some had already left DQ-O and gone back) Orth chasers to 22350
Will see how it all turns out, if I get chance I'll be looking at pods/ scraping sabotage mats out of DQ-O for next week.
Far as the latter, folk May want to do that in solo or a smaller private group though - the ops vulture had a bad time last night, had to call a buddy for S&R from the parade above.
Given Orthrus chasing and sabotage/combat interceptor work seems somewhat mutually exclusive, been roughly directing sabotage efforts to ST-Q b5-5, and (as some had already left DQ-O and gone back) Orth chasers to 22350
Will see how it all turns out, if I get chance I'll be looking at pods/ scraping sabotage mats out of DQ-O for next week.
Far as the latter, folk May want to do that in solo or a smaller private group though - the ops vulture had a bad time last night, had to call a buddy for S&R from the parade above.
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I heard of some fun with a big Medusa swarm around the Taranis spires last night. Not that I was there myself, but I’m sure it was interesting.
Next week’s periphery completion is probably more important than the rest. Not getting Swahku right the first time could potentially mess up the whole thing… well, for at least a month. If not longer.
Next week’s periphery completion is probably more important than the rest. Not getting Swahku right the first time could potentially mess up the whole thing… well, for at least a month. If not longer.
IndraI bodged together a live activity report months ago, been defunct for a while due to no port attacks.
Just updated it today to merge in spires as well - https://dev.iniv.space/pilots/
It's limited to EDDN and doesn't mean the CMDRs are in open play or there to clear/farm it, just an indication which could help
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So looking at the situation, the plan should be fairly fail-safe for the next few weeks, even if the last step is harder than expected:
Next week, 1 Alert (HR 1737 -> Trianguli CA-A c22)
If a second week is needed, Hyades FB-N b7-3 and Hyades BV-O b6-3 are targetable, which isn't enough to extend the perimeter past Swahku even if CA-A c22 isn't defended next week.
If a third week is needed, that's when they start being able to place too many Alerts at once, and taking out some Controls early starts to be needed. But hopefully that won't be necessary.
Next week, 1 Alert (HR 1737 -> Trianguli CA-A c22)
If a second week is needed, Hyades FB-N b7-3 and Hyades BV-O b6-3 are targetable, which isn't enough to extend the perimeter past Swahku even if CA-A c22 isn't defended next week.
If a third week is needed, that's when they start being able to place too many Alerts at once, and taking out some Controls early starts to be needed. But hopefully that won't be necessary.
Hey, I found humans today. Down side is all the barnacle things were harvested but I just hopped up and joined the air cover and had a bit of fun.
Thank you—very assuring! Losing a week to the steep Periphery change felt quite disappointing, very especially because it came once again just after having made Maelstrom destruction plans as with the Matrix appearances stopping us at M. Leigong and almost ruining Operation Redacted. Setting aside the extreme curiosity regarding what may occur afterwards, mostly I hope for one Maelstrom cleared soon so that something is appreciably different beyond one year, and also a bit to see how Jade Sanderlyn presents the situation given its coincidence with that one-year timing!
Speaking of M. Leigong, we are doing a little trimming based on everything available; your maps, its attacks and a list of its remaining systems! Hyades Sector KN-K b8-2 is being delivered at the moment, where the effect should be that its net losses actually prepare it for a Final Twenty completion:
- Four Alerts reduce to two rather than three.
- The loss of Hyades Sector KN-K b8-1 progresses the Periphery one more system.
- The loss of Hyades Sector KN-K b8-2 does not.
It may be difficult to get Commanders to rally there and actually deliver the Peripheral progress, but the opportunity will be there! Ultimately, enough trimming for lack of that attention will put M. Leigong into a Final Ten scenario.
Victories in Cephei Sectors AV-Y b2 and BV-Y b2, Arietis Sector NX-U c2-19 (hopefully never again!), HR 1358, Col 285 Sectors JW-M c7-10 and MG-E b12-0, HIPs 21475 and 20712, and Hyades Sector KN-K b8-2!
Peripheries at 06:30 13th November 3309:
Seven systems with 76% — Indra 21–22 Ly, 3 matrix + 3 inhabited, 226–948 strength
Six systems with 10% — Thor 18–25 Ly, 1 inhabited, 1343–6049 strength
Ten systems with 6% — Raijin 23–27 Ly, 1 matrix + 3 inhabited, 376–2535 strength
Alerts:
HIP 25679 Alert 94% *94.2% — Taranis 17 Ly, 108 Ls outpost, 1960 Ls planet
Nibelaako Alert 66% *67% — Raijin 22 Ly, 519 Ls starport, 519 Ls planet
Gliese 9035 Alert 56% — Oya 20 Ly, 556 Ls planet, Peripheral system
Col 285 Sector KM-V d2-69 Alert 6% — Cocijo 24 Ly, 451 Ls planet, Peripheral system
Evictions:
HIP 22496 Control 78% — Indra 22 Ly, 777 strength, Peripheral system
97 i Tauri Control 76% — Indra 21 Ly, 942 strength, Peripheral system
Lei Hsini Control 76% — Indra 21 Ly, 948 strength, Peripheral system
Clean-up:
Arietis Sector FL-X b1-0 Control 84% — Indra 23 Ly, 106 strength
Arietis Sector HG-X b1-3 Control 84% — Indra 22 Ly, 125 strength
Hyades Sector ST-Q b5-5 Matrix 76% *76.8% — Indra 22 Ly
HIP 22350 Matrix 76% *76.2% — Indra 22 Ly
Arietis Sector HG-X b1-0 Matrix 76% — Indra 21 Ly
Hyades Sector FX-H a11-0 Control 76% — Indra 21 Ly, 226 strength, Peripheral system
Col 285 Sector KM-V d2-109 Control 30% — Cocijo 22 Ly, 586 strength, Peripheral system
HIP 20397 Alert 28% — Indra 18 Ly, empty
Peripheries at 06:30 13th November 3309:
Seven systems with 76% — Indra 21–22 Ly, 3 matrix + 3 inhabited, 226–948 strength
Six systems with 10% — Thor 18–25 Ly, 1 inhabited, 1343–6049 strength
Ten systems with 6% — Raijin 23–27 Ly, 1 matrix + 3 inhabited, 376–2535 strength
Alerts:
HIP 25679 Alert 94% *94.2% — Taranis 17 Ly, 108 Ls outpost, 1960 Ls planet
Nibelaako Alert 66% *67% — Raijin 22 Ly, 519 Ls starport, 519 Ls planet
Gliese 9035 Alert 56% — Oya 20 Ly, 556 Ls planet, Peripheral system
Col 285 Sector KM-V d2-69 Alert 6% — Cocijo 24 Ly, 451 Ls planet, Peripheral system
Evictions:
HIP 22496 Control 78% — Indra 22 Ly, 777 strength, Peripheral system
97 i Tauri Control 76% — Indra 21 Ly, 942 strength, Peripheral system
Lei Hsini Control 76% — Indra 21 Ly, 948 strength, Peripheral system
Clean-up:
Arietis Sector FL-X b1-0 Control 84% — Indra 23 Ly, 106 strength
Arietis Sector HG-X b1-3 Control 84% — Indra 22 Ly, 125 strength
Hyades Sector ST-Q b5-5 Matrix 76% *76.8% — Indra 22 Ly
HIP 22350 Matrix 76% *76.2% — Indra 22 Ly
Arietis Sector HG-X b1-0 Matrix 76% — Indra 21 Ly
Hyades Sector FX-H a11-0 Control 76% — Indra 21 Ly, 226 strength, Peripheral system
Col 285 Sector KM-V d2-109 Control 30% — Cocijo 22 Ly, 586 strength, Peripheral system
HIP 20397 Alert 28% — Indra 18 Ly, empty
If Taranis does something more interesting than sulk when it loses all systems, it might be worth at Leigong testing whether the condition for that is "out of spires" or "out of systems". There are a few of the others where the former is a lot more straightforward a target.
True! In that case, I present to everybody else that M. Leigong will still be Final Twenty next week in the sense that two Periphery completions can end it, but that we could leave only Arietis Sector YE-R b4-1 alive in the second week:
That would eliminate its Matrix systems while leaving one normal Control system which has only ever Arietis Sector YE-R b4-3 as a possible target; we would get an immediate result regarding loss of all Spires, and the option will be present to discover after one month what happens with an Alert in a Matrix system.
As an aside, I quite like the idea of Final Ten and Final Twenty having a quite strong meaning beyond simply the number of systems:
- Final-anything means a Spire is available.
- Final Ten means the available Control and Alert activity can complete the Maelstrom given a Periphery completion.
- Final Twenty means the available activity can reach Final Ten given a Periphery completion, including new Alerts.