Congrats everyone at Kummer Holdings last night on a clean sweep and routing of the thargoids after the two hydra.
Thargoid invasion - Next target systems?
- Thread starter Aleks Zuno
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Week 15, 9th March 3309
ReportAlert repelled in Col 285 Sector AF-E b13-0, Juipedun.
HIP 20527, HIP 38225, Lunguni, Aowicha, Garongxians, HIP 21991, Holvandalla, HIP 20019, HIP 23716 defended from Invasion.
Targets updated at 06:50 16th March 3309
HIP 29596 Invasion 96% — Hadad 18 Ly, 5 ports, 1548 Ls 0.14g planet + 3015 Ls outpost attack, 1550 Ls 0.14g planet + 3038 Ls outpost damage
HIP 4617 Invasion 68% — Oya 28 Ly, 1 port, 3677 Ls 0.19g planet attack
HIP 7338 Invasion 52% — Oya 19 Ly, 1 port, 674 Ls outpost attack, 1660 Ls 0.2g planet damage
HIP 19757 Invasion 48% — Indra 25 Ly, 3 ports, 2256 Ls 0.2g planet attack, 1098 Ls 0.4g planet damage
Bormuninus Invasion 46% — Raijin 24 Ly, 4 ports, 63 Ls 0.19g planet attack
MCC 105 Invasion 44% — Oya 22 Ly, 1 port, 978 Ls outpost attack, 517 Ls 0.12g planet damage
Col 285 Sector AF-E b13-5 Invasion 40% — Cocijo 26 Ly, 2 ports, 283 Ls 0.14g planet attack
Muchihiks Invasion 32% — Oya 20 Ly, 0 ports, 890 Ls starport damage
Isla Invasion 28% — Raijin 24 Ly, 3 ports, 888 Ls 0.13g planet + 1649 Ls outpost attack, 888 Ls 0.13g planet + 2193 Ls outpost damage
Heng Alert 24% — Leigong 34 Ly, 318 Ls starport, 576 Ls outpost
Yukait Invasion 24% — Hadad 26 Ly, 3 ports, 76 Ls 0.4g planet attack, 258 Ls 0.4g planet damage
Bagalya Invasion 18% — Hadad 27 Ly, 2 ports, 3395 Ls 0.11g planet attack, 2507 Ls outpost damage
Bumbo Invasion 18% — Oya 22 Ly, 0 ports, 378 Ls outpost damage
HIP 18857 Invasion 18% — Thor 25 Ly, 1 port, 1746 Ls starport attack, 962 Ls outpost + 66k Ls 0.2g planet damage
Hyades Sector ST-Q b5-4 Invasion 18% — Indra 26 Ly, 1 port, 4082 Ls 0.16g planet attack
Nibelaako Invasion 18% — Raijin 22 Ly, 2 ports, 519 Ls starport + 519 Ls 0.16g planet attack, 519 Ls 0.16g planet + 16k Ls outpost damage
HIP 26926 Invasion 16% — Taranis 28 Ly, 4 ports, 884 Ls 0.3g planet attack
65 Kappa Tauri Invasion 12% — Indra 25 Ly, 1 port, 71k Ls starport attack, 72k Ls 0.18g planet damage
Chibis Invasion 12% — Cocijo 25 Ly, 2 ports, 1149 Ls outpost attack, 596 Ls 0.1g planet damage
Ebisu Invasion 12% — Taranis 21 Ly, 7 ports, 105 Ls outpost + 2998 Ls 0.2g planet attack
Gamil Invasion 12% — Hadad 30 Ly, 3 ports, 887 Ls 0.11g planet attack
Hyades Sector GW-W d1-88 Control 12% — Taranis 22 Ly, empty
Njana Invasion 12% — Cocijo 26 Ly, 2 ports, 443 Ls outpost attack, 1134 Ls 0.4g planet damage
Pathamon Invasion 12% — Leigong 22 Ly, 5 ports, 194 Ls outpost + 194 Ls 1.7g planet attack
Senocidi Invasion 12% — Taranis 20 Ly, 3 ports, 467k Ls 0.14g planet attack, 3144 Ls outpost damage
63 Eridani Invasion 10% — Taranis 20 Ly, 5 ports, 2732 Ls 0.2g planet + 2039 Ls outpost attack
Ahol Alert 10% — Hadad 21 Ly, 303 Ls outpost, 715 Ls planet
HIP 19781 Invasion 10% — Indra 26 Ly, 2 ports, 2594 Ls outpost attack
Vistnero Invasion 8% — Raijin 21 Ly, 1 port, 147 Ls starport attack, 521 Ls outpost damage
Vukurbeh Alert 8% — Taranis 24 Ly, 265 Ls starport, 468 Ls outpost, 1737 Ls planet
Ixbaksha Invasion 6% — Raijin 23 Ly, 2 ports, 196 Ls 0.18g planet attack
Jeng Invasion 6% — Oya 23 Ly, 1 port, 1588 Ls outpost attack, 2195 Ls outpost damage
Minawara Invasion 6% — Oya 23 Ly, 3 ports, 546 Ls outpost attack
Bhotepa Alert 4% — Oya 28 Ly, 259 Ls outpost
HIP 11111 Invasion 4% — Oya 24 Ly, 1 port, 2567 Ls outpost attack, 2474 Ls 0.11g planet damage
HIP 16954 Invasion 4% — Thor 33 Ly, 3 ports, 1396 Ls outpost attack, 1410 Ls outpost damage
HIP 19157 Invasion 4% — Indra 22 Ly, 4 ports, 1276 Ls outpost attack
HIP 20616 Invasion 4% — Indra 22 Ly, 1 port, 176k Ls 0.4g planet attack, 176k Ls 0.5g planet damage
HIP 21946 Invasion 4% — Indra 24 Ly, 1 port, 1916 Ls outpost attack, 2654 Ls 0.18g planet damage
HIP 6442 Invasion 4% — Leigong 28 Ly, 2 ports, 591 Ls 0.4g planet damage, pending attack report
HIP 9607 Invasion 4% — Leigong 32 Ly, 0 ports, 6852 Ls outpost damage
Haitchane Invasion 4% — Leigong 30 Ly, 2 ports, 667 Ls outpost attack, 225 Ls 0.5g planet damage
Muruidooges Invasion 4% — Hadad 18 Ly, 4 ports, 7225 Ls outpost attack
Cao Tzu Invasion 2% — Taranis 22 Ly, 3 ports, 280 Ls outpost attack
Col 285 Sector RX-Z b14-8 Alert 2% — Hadad 30 Ly, empty
Col 285 Sector WY-F b12-1 Invasion 2% — Cocijo 21 Ly, 1 port, 5361 Ls 0.3g planet attack
H Puppis Alert 2% — Hadad 26 Ly, 320 Ls starport, 1239 Ls outpost
HIP 20509 Invasion 2% — Thor 31 Ly, 4 ports, 776 Ls 0.16g planet attack
HIP 38235 Invasion 2% — Cocijo 21 Ly, 3 ports, 185 Ls 2.4g planet attack, 332 Ls outpost + 332 Ls 2.4g planet damage
Muncheim Alert 2% — Oya 24 Ly, 6 Ls starport, 10 Ls outpost, 17 Ls planet
Patollu Invasion 2% — Leigong 22 Ly, 0 ports, 679 Ls outpost damage
Week 14, 2nd March 3309
ReportLuggerates, HIP 20899, Kagutsuchi, Putas, HIP 26688, Ge, HIP 30260, Khondo Po, Khwal, Poqomathi defended from Invasion.
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Yes, and I was all the more amazed by the video I mentioned because it was in space (the swarms were simply ignored
). The ship did take rather a lot of damage though! Also, it was pretty kind of the Medusa to just sit still and take the beating. I think I'd describe the whole thing as "unsubtle but effective"...Victory in HIP 20527! We have many returning systems, a few sequels such as Aowicha and Chibis, some Alert activity at Heng (almost mistaken on my part for Jeng again), some empty Alert activity at Col 285 Sector AF-E b13-0, and joining the fight are Bormuninus, Bagalya and Col 285 Sector AF-E b13-5!
Top targets at 08:30 10th March 3309:
HIP 38225 Invasion 44% — Oya 27 Ly, 5 ports, 88 Ls 0.9g planet attack
Lunguni Invasion 38% — Leigong 23 Ly, 2 ports, 15 Ls 0.07g planet attack, 18 Ls outpost damage
HIP 7338 Invasion 24% — Oya 19 Ly, 1 port, 674 Ls outpost attack, 1660 Ls 0.2g planet damage
HIP 21991 Invasion 18% — Taranis 26 Ly, 2 ports, 2928 Ls 0.11g planet attack
Garongxians Invasion 16% — Leigong 28 Ly, 4 ports, 6148 Ls outpost + 5999 Ls 0.2g planet attack, 5992 Ls 0.2g planet + 5891 Ls 0.2g planet damage
Holvandalla Invasion 14% — Raijin 21 Ly, 0 ports, 86 Ls starport damage
Aowicha Invasion 12% — Oya 24 Ly, 3 ports, 1765 Ls 0.19g planet attack
MCC 105 Invasion 12% — Oya 22 Ly, 1 port, 978 Ls outpost attack, 517 Ls 0.12g planet damage
HIP 29596 Invasion 6% — Hadad 18 Ly, 5 ports, 1548 Ls 0.14g planet attack, 1550 Ls 0.14g planet + 3038 Ls outpost damage
I can imagine! Each swarm will be just shy of 100 missiles, surely plus a non-trivial amount of swarm projectiles taken due to remaining stationary. This gives me an idea though; I intend discovering how little time, credits and flight effort one can invest in building something which can do that to a Cyclops.
Top targets at 08:30 10th March 3309:
HIP 38225 Invasion 44% — Oya 27 Ly, 5 ports, 88 Ls 0.9g planet attack
Lunguni Invasion 38% — Leigong 23 Ly, 2 ports, 15 Ls 0.07g planet attack, 18 Ls outpost damage
HIP 7338 Invasion 24% — Oya 19 Ly, 1 port, 674 Ls outpost attack, 1660 Ls 0.2g planet damage
HIP 21991 Invasion 18% — Taranis 26 Ly, 2 ports, 2928 Ls 0.11g planet attack
Garongxians Invasion 16% — Leigong 28 Ly, 4 ports, 6148 Ls outpost + 5999 Ls 0.2g planet attack, 5992 Ls 0.2g planet + 5891 Ls 0.2g planet damage
Holvandalla Invasion 14% — Raijin 21 Ly, 0 ports, 86 Ls starport damage
Aowicha Invasion 12% — Oya 24 Ly, 3 ports, 1765 Ls 0.19g planet attack
MCC 105 Invasion 12% — Oya 22 Ly, 1 port, 978 Ls outpost attack, 517 Ls 0.12g planet damage
HIP 29596 Invasion 6% — Hadad 18 Ly, 5 ports, 1548 Ls 0.14g planet attack, 1550 Ls 0.14g planet + 3038 Ls outpost damage
Yes, and I was all the more amazed by the video I mentioned because it was in space (the swarms were simply ignored
I can imagine! Each swarm will be just shy of 100 missiles, surely plus a non-trivial amount of swarm projectiles taken due to remaining stationary. This gives me an idea though; I intend discovering how little time, credits and flight effort one can invest in building something which can do that to a Cyclops.
Goodness; victories in HIP 38225 and Lunguni! Either something changed or something large occurred, because that progress rate suggests almost double the usual number of systems. If that rate continues then the projection is 17–18 systems, where I am indeed treating the carried progress portion to help with the total but to have no increase over time.
We have returning Alert activity at Juipedun, Ahol and Vukurbeh, many familiar Invasion systems including Ebisu, Minawara and Cao Tzu, and joining the fight are HIPs 4617 and 38235, 63 Eridani and Ixbaksha!
Top targets at 10:40 11th March 3309:
Garongxians Invasion 44% — Leigong 28 Ly, 4 ports, 6148 Ls outpost + 5999 Ls 0.2g planet attack, 5992 Ls 0.2g planet + 5891 Ls 0.2g planet damage
HIP 21991 Invasion 44% — Taranis 26 Ly, 2 ports, 2928 Ls 0.11g planet attack
Aowicha Invasion 36% — Oya 24 Ly, 3 ports, 1765 Ls 0.19g planet attack
Holvandalla Invasion 32% — Raijin 21 Ly, 0 ports, 86 Ls starport damage
HIP 7338 Invasion 28% — Oya 19 Ly, 1 port, 674 Ls outpost attack, 1660 Ls 0.2g planet damage
MCC 105 Invasion 18% — Oya 22 Ly, 1 port, 978 Ls outpost attack, 517 Ls 0.12g planet damage
HIP 29596 Invasion 14% — Hadad 18 Ly, 5 ports, 1548 Ls 0.14g planet + 3015 Ls outpost attack, 1550 Ls 0.14g planet + 3038 Ls outpost damage
Col 285 Sector AF-E b13-0 Alert 12% — Cocijo 29 Ly, empty
HIP 19757 Invasion 12% — Indra 25 Ly, 3 ports, 2256 Ls 0.2g planet attack, 1098 Ls 0.4g planet damage
HIP 23716 Invasion 10% — Taranis 18 Ly, 3 ports, 2354 Ls 0.14g planet + 3044 Ls outpost attack, 3051 Ls 0.14g planet + 2351 Ls outpost damage
We have returning Alert activity at Juipedun, Ahol and Vukurbeh, many familiar Invasion systems including Ebisu, Minawara and Cao Tzu, and joining the fight are HIPs 4617 and 38235, 63 Eridani and Ixbaksha!
Top targets at 10:40 11th March 3309:
Garongxians Invasion 44% — Leigong 28 Ly, 4 ports, 6148 Ls outpost + 5999 Ls 0.2g planet attack, 5992 Ls 0.2g planet + 5891 Ls 0.2g planet damage
HIP 21991 Invasion 44% — Taranis 26 Ly, 2 ports, 2928 Ls 0.11g planet attack
Aowicha Invasion 36% — Oya 24 Ly, 3 ports, 1765 Ls 0.19g planet attack
Holvandalla Invasion 32% — Raijin 21 Ly, 0 ports, 86 Ls starport damage
HIP 7338 Invasion 28% — Oya 19 Ly, 1 port, 674 Ls outpost attack, 1660 Ls 0.2g planet damage
MCC 105 Invasion 18% — Oya 22 Ly, 1 port, 978 Ls outpost attack, 517 Ls 0.12g planet damage
HIP 29596 Invasion 14% — Hadad 18 Ly, 5 ports, 1548 Ls 0.14g planet + 3015 Ls outpost attack, 1550 Ls 0.14g planet + 3038 Ls outpost damage
Col 285 Sector AF-E b13-0 Alert 12% — Cocijo 29 Ly, empty
HIP 19757 Invasion 12% — Indra 25 Ly, 3 ports, 2256 Ls 0.2g planet attack, 1098 Ls 0.4g planet damage
HIP 23716 Invasion 10% — Taranis 18 Ly, 3 ports, 2354 Ls 0.14g planet + 3044 Ls outpost attack, 3051 Ls 0.14g planet + 2351 Ls outpost damage
Victories in Aowicha and Garongxians! HIP 21991 to follow very soon, after which those wishing to remain at M. Taranis would actually be as well to keep HIP 23716 safe once again (Wakata forever!). As an investment it seems brazen compared to previous cycles, but given the opening progress rate I have HIP 23716 at 15th projecting 1629%, or 13th Invasion projecting 1534% (that is to say, 129% surplus or 234% Invasion-specific surplus for further targets).
Otherwise, we have plentiful targets at M. Oya, and others scattered quite evenly across the middle row of Maelstroms. Fresh Alert activity spotted at Bhotepa, Pathamon returns for another Invasion after being defended previously in Week 10, and joining the fight are Gamil, HIP 19157 and HIP 20509!
Top targets at 09:50 12th March 3309:
HIP 21991 Invasion 96% — Taranis 26 Ly, 2 ports, 2928 Ls 0.11g planet attack
Holvandalla Invasion 52% — Raijin 21 Ly, 0 ports, 86 Ls starport damage
HIP 7338 Invasion 30% — Oya 19 Ly, 1 port, 674 Ls outpost attack, 1660 Ls 0.2g planet damage
MCC 105 Invasion 26% — Oya 22 Ly, 1 port, 978 Ls outpost attack, 517 Ls 0.12g planet damage
Col 285 Sector AF-E b13-0 Alert 24% — Cocijo 29 Ly, empty
HIP 29596 Invasion 24% — Hadad 18 Ly, 5 ports, 1548 Ls 0.14g planet + 3015 Ls outpost attack, 1550 Ls 0.14g planet + 3038 Ls outpost damage
Juipedun Alert 22% — Oya 24 Ly, 39 Ls starport, 1450 Ls planet
Bormuninus Invasion 20% — Raijin 24 Ly, 4 ports, 63 Ls 0.19g planet attack
HIP 19757 Invasion 20% — Indra 25 Ly, 3 ports, 2256 Ls 0.2g planet attack, 1098 Ls 0.4g planet damage
HIP 23716 Invasion 18% — Taranis 18 Ly, 3 ports, 2354 Ls 0.14g planet + 3044 Ls outpost attack, 3051 Ls 0.14g planet + 2351 Ls outpost damage
HIP 4617 Invasion 16% — Oya 28 Ly, 1 port, 3677 Ls 0.19g planet attack
Otherwise, we have plentiful targets at M. Oya, and others scattered quite evenly across the middle row of Maelstroms. Fresh Alert activity spotted at Bhotepa, Pathamon returns for another Invasion after being defended previously in Week 10, and joining the fight are Gamil, HIP 19157 and HIP 20509!
Top targets at 09:50 12th March 3309:
HIP 21991 Invasion 96% — Taranis 26 Ly, 2 ports, 2928 Ls 0.11g planet attack
Holvandalla Invasion 52% — Raijin 21 Ly, 0 ports, 86 Ls starport damage
HIP 7338 Invasion 30% — Oya 19 Ly, 1 port, 674 Ls outpost attack, 1660 Ls 0.2g planet damage
MCC 105 Invasion 26% — Oya 22 Ly, 1 port, 978 Ls outpost attack, 517 Ls 0.12g planet damage
Col 285 Sector AF-E b13-0 Alert 24% — Cocijo 29 Ly, empty
HIP 29596 Invasion 24% — Hadad 18 Ly, 5 ports, 1548 Ls 0.14g planet + 3015 Ls outpost attack, 1550 Ls 0.14g planet + 3038 Ls outpost damage
Juipedun Alert 22% — Oya 24 Ly, 39 Ls starport, 1450 Ls planet
Bormuninus Invasion 20% — Raijin 24 Ly, 4 ports, 63 Ls 0.19g planet attack
HIP 19757 Invasion 20% — Indra 25 Ly, 3 ports, 2256 Ls 0.2g planet attack, 1098 Ls 0.4g planet damage
HIP 23716 Invasion 18% — Taranis 18 Ly, 3 ports, 2354 Ls 0.14g planet + 3044 Ls outpost attack, 3051 Ls 0.14g planet + 2351 Ls outpost damage
HIP 4617 Invasion 16% — Oya 28 Ly, 1 port, 3677 Ls 0.19g planet attack
Victory in HIP 21991! While the Invasion activity continues quite well, I can see the pair of Alerts upcoming. Jeng returns after all, as well as HIP 21946, and I see some eviction activity in the empty system Hyades Sector GW-W d1-88!
Juipedun has decent enough progress for the moment, though at present it will be relying on at least a third of its progress coming from Commanders moving there from Invasions, so it is likely enough to finish but could always use more trade help. Col 285 Sector AF-E b13-0 is an empty system, so that Alert is very much a salvage operation; this aspect is new enough that there is no honest way to predict the feasibility, so by all means try some search-and-rescue but please do so with no expectations.
Top targets at 19:10 12th March 3309:
Holvandalla Invasion 62% — Raijin 21 Ly, 0 ports, 86 Ls starport damage
HIP 7338 Invasion 34% — Oya 19 Ly, 1 port, 674 Ls outpost attack, 1660 Ls 0.2g planet damage
HIP 29596 Invasion 30% — Hadad 18 Ly, 5 ports, 1548 Ls 0.14g planet + 3015 Ls outpost attack, 1550 Ls 0.14g planet + 3038 Ls outpost damage
Juipedun Alert 30% — Oya 24 Ly, 39 Ls starport, 1450 Ls planet
MCC 105 Invasion 28% — Oya 22 Ly, 1 port, 978 Ls outpost attack, 517 Ls 0.12g planet damage
Bormuninus Invasion 26% — Raijin 24 Ly, 4 ports, 63 Ls 0.19g planet attack
HIP 19757 Invasion 26% — Indra 25 Ly, 3 ports, 2256 Ls 0.2g planet attack, 1098 Ls 0.4g planet damage
Col 285 Sector AF-E b13-0 Alert 24% — Cocijo 29 Ly, empty
HIP 23716 Invasion 24% — Taranis 18 Ly, 3 ports, 2354 Ls 0.14g planet + 3044 Ls outpost attack, 3051 Ls 0.14g planet + 2351 Ls outpost damage
Juipedun has decent enough progress for the moment, though at present it will be relying on at least a third of its progress coming from Commanders moving there from Invasions, so it is likely enough to finish but could always use more trade help. Col 285 Sector AF-E b13-0 is an empty system, so that Alert is very much a salvage operation; this aspect is new enough that there is no honest way to predict the feasibility, so by all means try some search-and-rescue but please do so with no expectations.
Top targets at 19:10 12th March 3309:
Holvandalla Invasion 62% — Raijin 21 Ly, 0 ports, 86 Ls starport damage
HIP 7338 Invasion 34% — Oya 19 Ly, 1 port, 674 Ls outpost attack, 1660 Ls 0.2g planet damage
HIP 29596 Invasion 30% — Hadad 18 Ly, 5 ports, 1548 Ls 0.14g planet + 3015 Ls outpost attack, 1550 Ls 0.14g planet + 3038 Ls outpost damage
Juipedun Alert 30% — Oya 24 Ly, 39 Ls starport, 1450 Ls planet
MCC 105 Invasion 28% — Oya 22 Ly, 1 port, 978 Ls outpost attack, 517 Ls 0.12g planet damage
Bormuninus Invasion 26% — Raijin 24 Ly, 4 ports, 63 Ls 0.19g planet attack
HIP 19757 Invasion 26% — Indra 25 Ly, 3 ports, 2256 Ls 0.2g planet attack, 1098 Ls 0.4g planet damage
Col 285 Sector AF-E b13-0 Alert 24% — Cocijo 29 Ly, empty
HIP 23716 Invasion 24% — Taranis 18 Ly, 3 ports, 2354 Ls 0.14g planet + 3044 Ls outpost attack, 3051 Ls 0.14g planet + 2351 Ls outpost damage
Regarding Col 285 Sector AF-E b13-0, this is a test operation I'm probably doing the most on. What we are finding is that bulk tissue sample deliveries are making the most movement. If I drop off 48 interceptor tissue samples, it can easily move 2-3 pips. If you can build a ship that can avoid or absorb damage from interceptors for a sustained period of time, you can farm them for tissue samples as they hyperdict you on the way out. My record so far is 28 tissue samples off a basilisk, which took about 10 minutes. That is roughly enough to move the progress bar 1 pip.
What's the total number of pips required? (I thought that info was in this thread but searches haven't turned up the magic number
)What's the total number of pips required? (I thought that info was in this thread but searches haven't turned up the magic number
Fifty; one of the first things I did when first scouting for signs of progress was to count those. I then went ahead and represented them as 2% each—if you were wondering why every single system has a suspiciously even number!
Fascinating! I had very much suspected you caused that. If it helps to introduce terminology, at INIV we call that process "summoning"; pulling a Thargoid into a system that way.
Insofar as my Maelstrom-equipped Imperial Clipper sounds perfect for this, I shall give it a try myself. Plenty of armour, 15% heat under thrust, 550 speed, eight luxurious Universal limpets at once. I have a few questions:
- Are the samples corrosive?
I think I can adjust things a bit to hold more corrosive cargo if needed, or manage a bit of module damage. - Where do you sell them?
With no ports in the system, I imagine that Elite must be tracking the system from which the samples were taken.
Thank you, and definitely a Cutter is indeed a better idea here. I just now grabbed a handful of samples using the Clipper, which is able to avoid damage despite swarms renewing all the time, however doing so also avoids the Research limpets returning with a sample. It did not help that I could only summon double-Cyclops, though the same problem exists with just one target.
Invasion activity is calming a bit, at present looking to be around 13 Invasion systems with good surplus targets already present. The Alert in Juipedun is holding pace and has reduced the projected deficit slightly (projecting 60%), though will now need an extra push if it is to complete.
Thanks to @yttrbio the tissue-sampling operation in Col 285 Sector AF-E b13-0 should actually complete the system, and moreover it sounds to me as if these need only a couple of Commanders each. I will assemble that Cutter later today, join the effort there if it is not complete already, then perhaps try it in Juipedun!
Top targets at 08:40 13th March 3309:
Holvandalla Invasion 82% — Raijin 21 Ly, 0 ports, 86 Ls starport damage
Col 285 Sector AF-E b13-0 Alert 66% — Cocijo 29 Ly, empty
HIP 20019 Invasion 46% — Indra 26 Ly, 4 ports, 1060 Ls outpost attack
HIP 23716 Invasion 44% — Taranis 18 Ly, 3 ports, 2354 Ls 0.14g planet + 3044 Ls outpost attack, 3051 Ls 0.14g planet + 2351 Ls outpost damage
HIP 29596 Invasion 38% — Hadad 18 Ly, 5 ports, 1548 Ls 0.14g planet + 3015 Ls outpost attack, 1550 Ls 0.14g planet + 3038 Ls outpost damage
HIP 7338 Invasion 38% — Oya 19 Ly, 1 port, 674 Ls outpost attack, 1660 Ls 0.2g planet damage
Juipedun Alert 38% — Oya 24 Ly, 39 Ls starport, 1450 Ls planet
MCC 105 Invasion 32% — Oya 22 Ly, 1 port, 978 Ls outpost attack, 517 Ls 0.12g planet damage
Probably one:
Bormuninus Invasion 30% — Raijin 24 Ly, 4 ports, 63 Ls 0.19g planet attack
HIP 19757 Invasion 30% — Indra 25 Ly, 3 ports, 2256 Ls 0.2g planet attack, 1098 Ls 0.4g planet damage
HIP 4617 Invasion 30% — Oya 28 Ly, 1 port, 3677 Ls 0.19g planet attack
Thanks to @yttrbio the tissue-sampling operation in Col 285 Sector AF-E b13-0 should actually complete the system, and moreover it sounds to me as if these need only a couple of Commanders each. I will assemble that Cutter later today, join the effort there if it is not complete already, then perhaps try it in Juipedun!
Top targets at 08:40 13th March 3309:
Holvandalla Invasion 82% — Raijin 21 Ly, 0 ports, 86 Ls starport damage
Col 285 Sector AF-E b13-0 Alert 66% — Cocijo 29 Ly, empty
HIP 20019 Invasion 46% — Indra 26 Ly, 4 ports, 1060 Ls outpost attack
HIP 23716 Invasion 44% — Taranis 18 Ly, 3 ports, 2354 Ls 0.14g planet + 3044 Ls outpost attack, 3051 Ls 0.14g planet + 2351 Ls outpost damage
HIP 29596 Invasion 38% — Hadad 18 Ly, 5 ports, 1548 Ls 0.14g planet + 3015 Ls outpost attack, 1550 Ls 0.14g planet + 3038 Ls outpost damage
HIP 7338 Invasion 38% — Oya 19 Ly, 1 port, 674 Ls outpost attack, 1660 Ls 0.2g planet damage
Juipedun Alert 38% — Oya 24 Ly, 39 Ls starport, 1450 Ls planet
MCC 105 Invasion 32% — Oya 22 Ly, 1 port, 978 Ls outpost attack, 517 Ls 0.12g planet damage
Probably one:
Bormuninus Invasion 30% — Raijin 24 Ly, 4 ports, 63 Ls 0.19g planet attack
HIP 19757 Invasion 30% — Indra 25 Ly, 3 ports, 2256 Ls 0.2g planet attack, 1098 Ls 0.4g planet damage
HIP 4617 Invasion 30% — Oya 28 Ly, 1 port, 3677 Ls 0.19g planet attack
What is this "tissue-sampling operation"?
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Refer to the messages from @yttrbio just earlier, the first of which is here! It is based on having investigated it a bit last cycle with results here, from which the critical part is:
The key discovery is that salvage helps progress unpopulated Alert systems, and that salvage includes the Thargoid tissue samples. The Galaxy map reveals that tissue samples work for populated Alerts, and the discovery was that they also work for unpopulated Alerts.
That being the case, the method is to enter an unpopulated Alert system, then simply high-wake to an Invasion or Control system to provoke a Hyperspace destabilisation. That has the effect of summoning a Thargoid into the Alert system, from which one can then extract tissue samples by using Research limpets.
My earlier attempt with an evasive Clipper was inefficient because orbiting a Thargoid does not mix well with stopping to let the Research limpets reach the cargo hold. The suggested approach was to use a Cutter shielded well enough to stop any module damage, and stacked with hull reinforcement to outlast the phasing damage. I am going to try something like this later today if I can, though mind that I may have forgotten something critical in that loadout. I think Resistance matters not for phasing damage, though if it does then it should be adjusted to have a few Guardian hull reinforcements.
Phasing damage is converted from caustic to absolute, so resistances do not matter. It's also only around 10% of the original damage, from the look of that build I think you'd be better off switching some of the HRPs to shield cells.
I would actually ditch the HRPs for research limpet controllers, rather than shield cell boosters, and just bail on the effort when your shield gets low. Eventually, you'll run out of space to store samples, so you may as well go for gathering rate over durability. You'll also want to pop in a size 6 cargo rack, because the success rate for limpets is around 50%, and you'll need some extras if you want to fill up the corrosion-resistant cargo racks. My current record is 47 cyclops tissue samples in a 15 minute interaction in this build. You can take a look here if you want.
Got it, thank you; with 21278 shield after 4 points to SYS, or 23826 if I go without the Xeno scanner, that should need just 2364–2647 hull to support it. Taking the latter and with a 6B Shield cell providing an extra 5135 after SYS, that gives 28961 shield needing 3217 hull but supported by 3471 hull just from the Military slots, which works out quite well!
Good idea with the additional Research limpets; I think I will combine that with one class 6 Shield cell bank and take 10 limpets rather than your 11, resulting in this. Thank you for all of this!
Also if I may suggest, your Thermal vent is doing almost nothing for you there—at least not moving that slowly with rarely under 20% heat, in a large shielded Cutter, with Flight Assist enabled and having to use the Cargo scoop occasionally. Then again, as I found with the Clipper the appropriate movement while cold is also detrimental for the returning limpets, thus not really worth attempting it. Would it be better to remove the Beam laser and just remain relatively still instead, allowing a faster limpet return journey and therefore faster use of limpets?