Thargoid Structures Theory ...

Fellow Pilots,

I, as a great many other CMDRs, have been discussing the purpose and capability of these newly discovered Thargoid structures with other players in the community. From this, I thought I'd post our thoughts on this so far.

[Note: I'm sure there are specific threads for this kind of discussion, but my forum time is limited and the threads on alien tech are often massive so I thought it easier if I just posted here]

What we know so far:

- Thargoids are an alien race that have previously appeared in the Elite universe.
- They are very aggressive and are extremely proficient in combat.
- They have already fought a war with humanity and were driven back to their home world (via means of questionable morality if FFE lore is still relevant here - https://youtu.be/NyEaVPha0pg).

What has been confirmed so far:

- They display technology that in many areas is far in advance of our own.
- Our offensive and defensive technology is currently ineffective against them.
- This most recent appearance from our old adversary represents a very serious threat to the core worlds and humanity at large (this was confirmed in the Fdev press conference at Lavecon)


I personally don't believe that the arrival of the Thargoids in Elite: Dangerous as anything other than an intended invasion, with unfolding events and discoveries only paving the way to ultimately set the stage for the 2.4 launch.

The megastructures themselves have often been thought of and referred to as crash sites - I don't believe this to be the case at all. At the time of this post over 130 sites have been discovered ... 130 individual crashes seems highly unlikely for such an advanced race ... if they were, I'd say we'd have nothing to worry about. The interiors are also all intact and show no sign of damage either.


Theories & Speculation so far:

- The Thargoids themselves seem entirely unthreatened by us. This is confirmed by their ability to completely disable our ships at will, to take our military convoys out, and most importantly in my opinion, their complete indifference to us not only knowing the locations of these megastructures, but allowing us to roam about the sites with relative impunity.

- The central edifices to these structures are full of eggs. Eggs typically hatch a life form of some sort or other ...

- When the UAs, UPs & ULs are deposited correctly into the central control interface, what seems to be some kind of star map appears. Is this a harmless celestial archive or the War Room for an invasion?


StarMap.jpg



- The structure also includes Unknown Uplinks that can be scanned and the message/instructions that are downloaded can then be converted into something a human can understand via a spectral analyser:


SpecAnalysis.jpg



- To my mind what we are seeing here is the preparations of a massive invasion on an unprecedented scale. The Thargoids are alien to us in many ways including culturally, and so they could potentially adopt a structural behaviour patten akin to something like a Locust. My guess as to the next steps are as follows:


1. They deploy these hives into strategic locations around the Pleiades nebula to use as a staging post to launch attacks on our core worlds.

2. When the time is right, the eggs hatch and an army is born.

3. The star map and the unknown uplinks provide them with all the information they need to commence their war of vengeance against the whole of humanity.


So there you go. Love to hear your thoughts on all this speculation.


CMDR Grey Wolfe.
 
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Fellow Pilots,

I, as a great many other CMDRs, have been discussing the purpose and capability of these newly discovered Thargoid structures with other players in the community. From this, I thought I'd post our thoughts on this so far.

[Note: I'm sure there are specific threads for this kind of discussion, but my forum time is limited and the threads on alien tech are often massive so I thought it easier if I just posted here]

What we know so far:

- Thargoids are an alien race that have previously appeared in the Elite universe.
- They are very aggressive and are extremely proficient in combat.
- They have already fought a war with humanity and were driven back to their home world.

What has been confirmed so far:

- They display technology that in many areas is far in advance of our own.
- Our offensive and defensive technology is currently ineffective against them.
- This most recent appearance from our old adversary represents a very serious threat to the core worlds and humanity at large (this was confirmed in the Fdev press conference at Lavecon)


I personally don't believe that the arrival of the Thargoids in Elite: Dangerous is anything other than an intended invasion, with unfolding events and discoveries only paving the way to ultimately set the stage for the 2.4 launch.

The megastructures themselves have often been thought of and referred to as crash sites - I don't believe this to be the case at all. At the time of this post over 130 sites have been discovered ... 130 individual crashes seems highly unlikely. The interiors are all intact and show no sign of damage either.


Theories & Speculation so far:

- The Thargoids themselves seem entirely unthreatened by us. This is confirmed by their ability to completely disable our ships at will, to take our military convoys out, and most importantly in my opinion, their complete indifference to us not only knowing the locations of these megastructures, but allowing us to roam about the sites with relative impunity.

- The central edifices to these structures are full of eggs. Eggs typically hatch a life form of some sort or other ...

- When the UAs, UPs & ULs are deposited correctly into the central control interface, what seems to be some kind of star map appears. Is this a harmless celestial archive or the War Room for an invasion?


http://liquidconcepts.com.au/Signature/StarMap.jpg


- The structure also includes unknown links that can be scanned and the message/instructions that are downloaded can then be converted into something a human can understand via a spectral analyser:


http://liquidconcepts.com.au/Signature/SpecAnalysis.jpg


- To my mind what we are seeing here is the preparations of a massive invasion on an unprecedented scale. The Thargoids are alien to us in many ways including culturally, and so they could potentially adopt a structural behaviour patten akin to something like a Locust. My guess as to the next steps are as follows:


1. They deploy these hives into strategic locations around the Pleiades nebula to use as a staging post to launch attacks on our core worlds.

2. When the time is right, the eggs hatch and an army is born.

3. The star map and the unknown uplinks provide them with all the information they need to commence their war of vengeance against the whole of humanity.


So there you go. Love to hear your thoughts on all this speculation.


CMDR Grey Wolfe.

I hear you about 'long thread'. It can be quite intimidating at times, hence the summary on the front page, of course.

We appear only to be at the stage of discovery, so your opinion is as valid as anyone else's and I don't think there is any evidence at the moment that contradicts what you have to say. So good evaluation, so far :)

There may yet be a tie-in with the ancient relics that we haven't understood. The surprising reaction when a relic is thrown into the central 'mapping' device would suggest this, or it could be a red herring.

We just don't know at this stage. It's not so much thinking through the logic of the Thargoid aspects, but analysing the logic of the Dev Hive :D
 
I agree with. Perhaps not with all of the details, but certainly am thinking much along the same lines. I happen to think that the ships are being constructed and/or grown.
 
I hear you about 'long thread'. It can be quite intimidating at times, hence the summary on the front page, of course.

I'm sure you're right. I scrambled that post out in my lunch break so just didn't have the time to find the right place.

There may yet be a tie-in with the ancient relics that we haven't understood. The surprising reaction when a relic is thrown into the central 'mapping' device would suggest this, or it could be a red herring.

I believe this to be part of the later storyline, where the aggressors start out seemingly invincible, with our weapons falling way short of the job. Then the Guardian's (clue's in the name there IMO) ancient technology provide the key (perhaps with the help of the likes of Palin and Tah) to overcoming this threat once more.

We just don't know at this stage. It's not so much thinking through the logic of the Thargoid aspects, but analysing the logic of the Dev Hive :D

For sure!
 
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The first time I approached the first site they found, I thought: It is a damn sand worm buried in the ground, or like a Moray eel, but buried...in the sand.

A HUGE, buried, alien monster with big teeth!!!

:mad:
 
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I am on my way out there now, about 10 jumps away, anything I need to take with me?

... an Unknown Artefact and an Unknown Probe.

You will need to acquire the Unknown Link once inside the structure, via an anti chamber, just off the main corridors. I would recommend going here FIRST on arrival to get the UL. You approach the internal structures (whatever they are) within the anti room whereupon the unknown link is dropped. If like me, you deposit your UA and UP into the interface within the central edifice, and THEN go to get the UL, it fails to drop ... not sure if this was a bug?
 
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... an Unknown Artefact and an Unknown Probe.

You will need to acquire the Unknown Link once inside the structure, via an anti chamber, just off the main corridors. I would recommend going here FIRST on arrival to get the UL. You approach the internal structures (whatever they are) within the anti room whereupon the unknown link is dropped. If like me, you deposit your UA and UP into the interface within the central edifice, and THEN go to get the UL, it fails to drop ... not sure if this was a bug?
Thank you, very helpful.
 
... an Unknown Artefact and an Unknown Probe.

You will need to acquire the Unknown Link once inside the structure, via an anti chamber, just off the main corridors. I would recommend going here FIRST on arrival to get the UL. You approach the internal structures (whatever they are) within the anti room whereupon the unknown link is dropped. If like me, you deposit your UA and UP into the interface within the central edifice, and THEN go to get the UL, it fails to drop ... not sure if this was a bug?
Which you can't buy? Wonderful.
 
If it is an invasion map, I'm thinking this is more about incursion between the two (?) species of Thargoids. Considering the appearance of Red Thargoids at the sites, and the Scavengers having a similar tint, it is my belief that the crashed ship belongs to the Green Thargoids. Could they be studying the wreckage, or salvaging to repair their own technology? What if the eggs are inert due to a lack of appropriate atmosphere?

As for the abundance of crash sites, if INRA deployed the mycoid across the entire Pleiades, it could've knocked out a whole flotillas worth of motherships
 
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Considering the appearance of Red Thargoids at the sites

Wow, not aware of that? Link?

What if the eggs are inert due to a lack of appropriate atmosphere?

Would they have gone there in the first place then ... 130 times, to 130 airless worlds? We know they're an advanced race.

As for the abundance of crash sites, if INRA deployed the mycoid across the entire Pleiades, it could've knocked out a whole flotillas worth of motherships

If FFE lore is still relevant in Elite Dangerous then their hyperdrives were cured: https://youtu.be/NyEaVPha0pg (4:00min)
 
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I know I made elite on a Spectrum with the 84 game.

It was the BBC Micro for me ... but no Elite status. I was just an unruly 7 year old at the time, that just attacked the Coriolis stations to dogfight with the police Viper ships.
 
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