I'd go for the first PC if it is £300 cheaper no contest. The 980 is a little faster than a 970, however the GTX970 is a very overclockable card and will be ok in this and many other games - it's not worth an extra 300quid!
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I'd go for the first PC if it is £300 cheaper no contest. The 980 is a little faster than a 970, however the GTX970 is a very overclockable card and will be ok in this and many other games - it's not worth an extra 300quid!
Thank you for the reply! Will the GTX970 run the game at good settings?
I'd recommend the GTX 980. The GTX 970 actually only has 3.5GB fast memory and 0.5GB slow memory in the 4GB GPU. According to the frontier tequired specs the gtx 970 DOES NOT meet the recommended specs only the minimum. But the gtx 980 does XD. Getting the GTX 980 will help future proof more your system.
So you reckon pay an extra £300 to get a minor FPS increase in games that are GPU limited (bear in mind PlanCo is mostly CPU limited)? [haha]
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8568/the-geforce-gtx-970-review-feat-evga
With the 300 you saved, you could pull the 970, sell it, buy a 1070 and still have change left over! The 980 (the standard chip, not the ti) was never particularly good value. Oh, and spoiler alert, you'd be wasting money even doing that if you're mainly interested in just this game and you're playing at 1080p. I upgraded from a 970 to a 1070 and the frame rate difference @1080p in Planet Coaster was exactly....**Drum roll** ZERO!
£300 to go from a GTX970 to a GTX980 is complete lunacy when you can buy a GTX1070 for £350!
If that is an option go for it, if it involves large sums of cash however choose wisely as they're not going to be much of an upgrade for this game!
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At 1080p you'll be fine running high settings. I recently upgraded from a 970 to a 1080 and there was no difference in frame rates in a crowded park with the same settings!
Still be good to get a 1070 if you have the choice to. It still gives gains in other games other than Planet Coaster.
I agree although at 1080p 60FPS you're going to struggle to see a big difference in most current games. If you have a higher resolution/refresh rate monitor then definitely go for it!
Thank you all for your advice, I'm finding this hard to decide as there are a lot of conflicting opinions. I am solely buying a PC to play planet coaster, seems a lot but I did play RCT3 for 10 years. I've decided to go with Chillblast due to their customer service. I've just seen this 'flight sim' PC. Am I right in thinking it would make a good set up for Planet Coaster? I plan to upgrade to an i7 6700k and maybe upgrade the GTX 1060 3GB to 6GB. I've posted the specs below;
Chillblast Fusion Hurricane 4 Flight Sim PC
Processor: Intel Core i5-6600K, up to 4.4GHz
Memory: 8GB DDR4 2133MHz
Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB
Storage: 250GB SSD / 1TB HDD
Operating System: Windows 10 Home
Chillblast Fusion Hurricane 4 Flight Sim PC
Processor: Intel Core i5-6600K, up to 4.4GHz
Memory: 8GB DDR4 2133MHz
Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB
Storage: 250GB SSD / 1TB HDD
Operating System: Windows 10 Home
This machine would be a downgrade from the machine you posted yesterday. If you main interest is this game the PC with the 970 makes sense because:
Processor: Intel Core i7-6700K Skylake CPU, 4 Cores, 4.0 - 4.2GHz
OVERCLOCKED - 4.6GHZ
It has an overclocked i7 6700K running at 4.6GHz over the lower clocked CPU of the other machine with the 980 and the i5 6600K of the flight sim PC. Planet Coaster is a highly threaded application and in my own testing I've found it does benefit from more threads over an i5
Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Graphics Card
This card is more than capable of playing Planet Coaster, I owned one myself up until about 3 days ago and never had issues playing the game! It was a £300 cheaper option than another system you were considering also. It's slightly slower than a stock 980 and 1060 however It's cheaper than the 980 by so much you could buy a much faster card to slot in it's place and not be out of pocket. The 1060 is a little faster than the 970 however if you're buying a prebuilt PC for Planet Coaster, you want the one with the fast i7 6700K in it!!!
Memory: 16GB DDR4 3000MHz Memory (2 x 8GB Sticks)
These days this is the recommended amount of RAM for a reasonable gaming setup, the flight sim PC only has 8gb and while PC will run with 8gb fine, I have run into instances where it isn't enough and my RAM usage has exceeded 8gb. It's also reasonably fast DDR4 clocked at 3GHz so it'll be better performance wise than the flight sim PC!
OS Drive: 128GB Samsung SM951 M.2 PCIe Solid State Drive
M.2 NVMe capable SSD drives? Yes please, I'll have more of that! Faster than the plain Jane SATA SSD drives found in more ordinary systems.
Secondary Hard Drive: Seagate 2TB 7200RPM Hard Disk
This is ample storage for any sort of digital collections you may be thinking of keeping!
EDIT: Just noticed that the GTX1060 in the 'flightsim PC' is the 3gb version. AVOID
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Looking for some input, I am getting ready to pull the trigger on a new desktop and I have narrowed it down to two. Primarily it is to run planet coaster to the best performance possible and the other part is to future proof of other games.
setup 1)
i5-6402P 2.8GHz, up to 3.4GHz with Turbo w/ Skylake 6M L3 Cache
GTX 1070 8GB
8 GB DDR3 RAM
1 TB HD
setup 2)
i7-6700K 4.0GHz (with Max Turbo Speed of 4.2GHz), 6M L3 Cache
GTX 1060 3GB
16GB DDR4
1 TB HD
Would appreciate anyone's input that might help me choose between the two, FYI The reason I am considering the 1070 8GB w/ i5 and less RAM is beause I would upgrade to to 16 GB RAM in the up coming months and possible to and i7 later down the road, Thanks.
setup 1)
i5-6402P 2.8GHz, up to 3.4GHz with Turbo w/ Skylake 6M L3 Cache
GTX 1070 8GB
8 GB DDR3 RAM
1 TB HD
setup 2)
i7-6700K 4.0GHz (with Max Turbo Speed of 4.2GHz), 6M L3 Cache
GTX 1060 3GB
16GB DDR4
1 TB HD
Would appreciate anyone's input that might help me choose between the two, FYI The reason I am considering the 1070 8GB w/ i5 and less RAM is beause I would upgrade to to 16 GB RAM in the up coming months and possible to and i7 later down the road, Thanks.
I'm with LeglessBloke.
Also, I'm not sure why that says the 6600k is "4.4GHz". That is definitely with overclocking which is not a guarantee. Officially the i5 6600k is 3.5GHz with a Turboboost up to 3.9GHz. See this page at Intel.
The extra threads of the i7 will get you a boost of 15 to 20% improvement in performance throughput.
The i7 6700k is a base of 4.0GHz and boost up to 4.2GHz officially. which is a lot better than that i5 6600k.
Get the 16GB of ram. 8GB is so low nowadays. Internet browsers are a hog -- pretty much every Chrome tab is 0.1GB to 0.3GB.
The Geforce 970 should serve you well, when combined with the fast processor and higher system ram.
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What are the prices on these setups? Where are you buying them? That i5 will really hurt your FPS right now because Planet Coaster is a simulation game and is dependent on a fast processor. Frankly 2.8GHz is slow, and you won't see the 3.4GHz constantly unless the CPU cooler is topnotch. I think I can see where you are going in your conclusion, just trying to get more info.
One other thing for you to think about is getting an SSD for your main drive. They really do make a world of difference, in the everyday use of your computer. Not an improvement for gaming, but it helps speed up and smooth out everything else you do on your computer.
Everything that LeglessBloke said to jamesair also applies to your computer build options, since they are very close.
Swapping a processor is also an "experience" and takes some finesse and willing to watch videos and really understand the process. If you are comfortable with that, are you planning on building this system yourself? Swapping the system RAM or the Graphics card is certainly easier.
Building a computer really isn't that hard. I wish some of you lived near me, and we could meet up and build a computer together. Message me if you want help to build a PC to play PC and are near the Twin Cities in Minnesota.
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If you want the PC which is more better future proof option, go for the second:
The 6th gen Intel Core i7-6700k is much better than the i5-6402P. The 6700k has a much higher clock speed, a larger cache (8MB cache). The second also has twice more system RAM, and a newer version of memory (DDR4). As for the GPU, it's a good GPU. Although it's 1060 3GB RAM compared with 8GB RAM for 1070 option, this game is VERY CPU demanding. It's currently much more CPU demanding than even The Sims 4 and Cities Skylines on maxed out settings.
These are the specs Frontier currently has for the game in it's current status. As you can see, the current "recommended" system requirements are pretty high:
https://support.frontier.co.uk/kb/faq.php?id=292
My HP 15-ab222tx laptop has an i5-6200U which has a speed of 2.3-2.69Ghz from Windows Task Manager, and that CPU was 100% maxed out when I played the Alpha 2 version of Planet Coaster. And it has 6MB cache. It would likely conk out with Alpha 3. The i7-6700k processor on my custom desktop is a much better processor if you want a better system which will last you longer. But compare prices and different systems. The 2nd setup has a better CPU and better RAM. Also recommend getting an SSD. SSD's can start up a PC in 12 seconds compared to 5400rpm HDD's which take 2-3 minutes to start up a PC. SSD's are wayyyyyyyyy better. They're much faster at loading and saving stuff and drastically faster at booting up your PC. Perhaps consider a 250GB SSD or 128GB SSD or something, and storing your OS and a couple of your favorite games on it. But it's up to you.
Thanks for the feedback, Ya I am aware of the process to swap a CPU and it would definitely be a learning process, I too was also leaning towards the second setup as well much easier to swap a GPU in the future and the DDR4 RAM at 16 is a plus. Overall the system is gonna run around $900. Anyone out there play planet coaster on a GTX 1060 3GB yet? Curious to know how it performs.
Hi, I'm looking to buy a new laptop to play this game on. I don't need to be able to play on max settings, smoother fps is more important to me. Any opinions on this setup?
ROG Strix GL502VM
NVIDIA GTX 1060 6GB (mobile version???) it doesnt say "m" next to it
Intel Core i7-6700HQ
16GB DDR4
1TB 7200RPM HDD
ROG Strix GL502VM
NVIDIA GTX 1060 6GB (mobile version???) it doesnt say "m" next to it
Intel Core i7-6700HQ
16GB DDR4
1TB 7200RPM HDD
Hello everyone. I`m getting a new laptop to play games such as this game, rctw, the sims 4, football manager 2017 so not games like cod as have my ps4 for them.
I would like to get a laptop which is capable of running these games well with good graphics, below are two I have been looking at, do you think these two laptops would be able to play these games efficiently? and if so which would I be best going with? thanks for any advice.
http://www.littlewoods.com/acer-v-n...-gtx-960m-graphics-ndash-black/1600099970.prd
http://www.littlewoods.com/msi-gl62...nvidia-2gb-940m-graphics-black/1600065704.prd
I would like to get a laptop which is capable of running these games well with good graphics, below are two I have been looking at, do you think these two laptops would be able to play these games efficiently? and if so which would I be best going with? thanks for any advice.
http://www.littlewoods.com/acer-v-n...-gtx-960m-graphics-ndash-black/1600099970.prd
http://www.littlewoods.com/msi-gl62...nvidia-2gb-940m-graphics-black/1600065704.prd
That is a really nice laptop. That I7 is clocked a little slower because it isn't the K version. Nvidia isn't putting a mobile label on their newest graphics cards for laptops. The mobile versions are now just clocked a little slower than the desktop version. That 1060 should be really super nice compared to the old slow 960m.
With HDD, would be nicer if it was SSD. Shouldn't effect your game play speeds.
I thought the price would be $2k for that, surprised to see $1,400
Planet Coaster is the most demanding game of the ones you listed. RCTW is buggy and won't run well on anything -- check out the thread in the Off Topic area of this forum.
That price seams high for those laptops having only the 960m, and really those 960s have been out for a long time. Absolutely don't get the 940m one - very slow. The 960m is slow and not really ideal. Are any online stores in your area selling ones with the Nvidia 1060, that is a massive step up over the 960 and 940?
I'll preface this by saying that people are playing with 2GB cards and having a good time and are getting by. A lot of people are also often recommending the Nvidia 970 which has 3.5GB (says 4GB, but how the ram is partitioned it isn't really that much). I wouldn't recommend the 970 anymore, since that has been replaced by the 1060 and or 1070 cards at that price point. Onwards to my comments...
Looks like Windows 10 uses about 500MB of the graphics card ram (3GB = 3072MB), then when Planet Coaster is running the utilization goes up to 3GB to 4GB for a park that has stuff in it. That is with me displaying it on my 2560x1600 screen. A blank sand box park is showing 2500MB used. Playing around with the screen size and the graphics settings Low, Med, High only appears to change it 0.5GB or so, levels it out to the 3GB used range. The graphics card drivers will handle paging stuff out when the useage gets over the dedicated ram amount(3GB with the card you are considering), but that may cause stuttering and frame drops. My card has 8GB, so I can't give any opinion on that problem.
I'd prefer buying the larger RAM cards, if I was buying something new.
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Ok thanks, that one thing I was worried about. Do you think that the RX 480 4GB would be enough or is that still cutting it close and the 1060 6GB would be best?
I'm more fond of Nvidia because they are a healthier company(innovation and market share), and I feel that shows in their hardware and driver support. I'm seeing the 480 4gb at $230/$240 and the Nvidia 1060 at $250. This would be one of those cases I'd pay the $20 for a faster card.
The 480 also pulls more power and runs hotter than the 1060. The 480 also was pulling too much power from the motherboard slot and was out of spec, and they were going to be releasing a patch for that, but then technically it would be pulling too much power from the single power connector if they shifted the power pull to that. I've been busy and haven't followed how that saga worked out the last 2 months.
Sorry the tech can get confusing.[blah]
you do know the power spec issue of the RX 480 was only on the reference card and not the custom board partner cards? and it has already been fixed. the whole issue has been made a mountain out of a mole hill (the GTX 750 Ti has the same issue if you overclock it)(and is already falling off the benchmark charts, while most GCN 1 cards from 2011 are still being benched)
so far. the RX 480 has a healthier future in DX12 and vulkan titles. and as for the "pulls more power, and runs hotter" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWASNajSdpg
it depends per board partner.I do agree if you want better DX11 performance, go for the either. it's all pretty subjective anyway