Bob Lighthouse
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But that's subjective, see Rinzler's post.
I’m just saying regular XBOX controller will be severely limiting. All the discussion around C3 vs C4 is addressing the symptom, not the cause. Know what I mean?
Bob Lighthouse
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OP is on Xbox where one might assume most of the field is also using a controller.
Putting a turret is another matter entirely.
It doesn't make sense using a controller either.
Phisto,That will do it. Do you have the Elite controller? You can button map all kinds of things (like lateral thrusters!) and get very good results. 'Sniper sticks' and joystick curve adjustments can get you very accurate shooting. Probably not as good as keyboard and mouse, but hey there it is.
In fact, I was on XBOX for a long time before switching to PC. Still use the controller.
You just posted the most useful information (for me) on this entire thread.
I appreciate that you understand the limitations the XBox controller has (especially the lateral thruster implementation which is awful). Very few buttons, tiny, over-reactive joysticks, I've been a sloppy pilot while using it and had to engineer ships around its limitations. I recently counted how many button clicks it took to do something, 6. In a fight, I'm at a disadvantage in many ways, so I engineered my ships around the limitations. Turreted lasers have worked well for me in PvE. I've bounty hunted and destroyed over 23,000 ships, and lost one, an Eagle. I can take on any wing in PvE; no problem.
I know the PvP environment is different, especially after all the comments made on this thread, and I may need to do some re-engineering on some ships, but I've got to solve my controller problem first.
I never heard of an Elite Controller for an XBox. You still using it on a PC is quite a recommendation. I'd heard from someone that XBox controller would work on a PC...
A few weeks ago, I purchased a Thrustmaster HOTAS on someone's recommendation, a very nice piece of equipment. I tried it one night; I think it's going to be awesome, especially with the ability to use the stick to pilot precisely, the button placement, and the ability to program upwards of 14 different button sequences that will be activated by no more than 2 button clicks. But all my muscle memory training for the last 2.5 years has been for the stock XBox controller, so I put the HOTAS away for a while. I'm going to get it back out soon and train myself to use it. It will take a while in SOLO mode to adapt to it.
If the HOTAS does not work out, I will buy an XBox Elite Controller. I may even buy one before my training on the HOTAS. Your description is intriguing.
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Bob Lighthouse,
It was never my intention with my original post to ask for advice on my ships' configurations. I simply posted an incident that happened to me, as a warning to others, and to ask if anyone else had encountered anything like it. That was it.
Since my OP, other commanders have peppered me with questions. I've responded. And then you and your buddy showed up, to jeer and denigrate me on a personal level. I've reported both of you for it. I don't think this forum tolerates bullies.
I know you've made it your personal mission in life to force me use a Class 4 Pulse Laser on a Size 4 hardpoint on an FDL, and to continue to publicly insult me if I don't.
I'm not going to do it. Get used to it.
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To the rest of the commanders who posted on this thread, I appreciate all of your posts, especially those that volunteered their time and energy, and ideas to enhance my ship builds for PvP. This statement includes those that disagreed with me. I like a good, honest debate; it gets to the truth of things.
I've written much more than I wanted to on this thread. It's seriously detracted from my game play time which is limited by the demands of my career. So, this is my last post on this thread.
I hope to encounter most of you in the black. o7
Good luck, OP! I think the HOTAS or XBOX Elite Controller will suit you and really open up the game for you. It did for me!
EDIT: Quick side note: the 'Elite' in the controller name doesn't refer to our beloved game. Just marketing speak for 'super kewl!!'
EDIT: Quick side note: the 'Elite' in the controller name doesn't refer to our beloved game. Just marketing speak for 'super kewl!!'
Goes to show just how effective cooperative tactics/wing-mates can be . . .
Bob Lighthouse
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It occurs to me that our resident PS4 ganker FerosFerioGTR uses a controller, LOL.
Ok...
Ok...
Bob Lighthouse
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LOL...
First of all I suggested a beam, just to show you how poor of a choice you were making, and how much energy overhead you had.
I don't care what you do.
I am just pointing out the absurdity of your current choice, and how you do not seem open to suggestions like you claimed.
No matter what controller you use, it's a terrible choice.
Perhaps some other Cmdr can benefit from your thread, even if you can't.
LOL, blame it on the controller!
"It's not the arrow."
I'm just trying to figure out who your buddy was.
Bob Lighthouse
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I don't know if he blocked me or not, but if he was talking about reporting me for some gentle ribbing then I guess my response would be that I wished I'd actually gone after him for reals. Of all the forum/ingame playstyles, the playstyle of "overly sensitive oh so thinned skin professional victim" is the one I detest above all others.
Bob Lighthouse
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But Jason, he's gotten to where he is today using a c3 turret.
Never mind that place he's gotten to is getting blown up in seconds.
Should I break it to him that TLB actually just got nerfed?
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Gonna be straight here - the default XBOX controller is so bad his loadout choices might be optimal!
Bob Lighthouse
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Puh-leaze...
As far as you know he got blown up by Cmdrs using contollers.
It's ok if you missed that he's actually playing on Xbox yaknow...
Bob Lighthouse
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I’ve never used the PS4 controller so I can’t comment. Got lots of experience with the default controller and the Elite controller. Most folks on XBOX use the Elite one. The performance advantage is significant!
In any case, he’ll be better served once he gets a more flexible controller.
In any case, he’ll be better served once he gets a more flexible controller.
Bob Lighthouse
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I’m still close with everyone in Newton’s Fusiliers. I can’t think of anyone good using the default controller. I can ask them if you want?
I went ahead and asked. Turns out a couple of the best guys on XBOX use stock so that was surprising. Seems though that the Elite controller does provide a slight edge and most people learn on stock and then upgrade if they get the taste for it.
In any case, yeah his outfitting choices are poor but I can understand why he made them. Fingers crossed a more enjoyable control scheme makes it all more fun (and more likely he whips out that mighty PA).
Bob Lighthouse
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I appreciate the honesty, and why you'd ever try to tacitly approve that weapon choice will forever remain a mystery to me.
It's totally absurd.