The Deep Space Support Array (DSSA) | A FleetComm Initiative

[marx]

I don't get everyone's problem,

I'm not sure who you're referring to as "everyone"? Looking above, nobody mentioned having to move because of others being a problem. I think it's reasonable.

As I said though, I was seriously thinking about leaving anyway, due to not wanting to pledge for two years, but would have wanted to wait before making that final decision. (I could show you time-stamped Discord shots about this.) I made it final now, because now I would have had to talk and debate with others about where I'd be moving, and doing that while I'm actually planning to leave the roster later would have been quite dishonest.
And yes, I know that technically, only one year is still required for a place on the roster, but in practice, you'll want to pledge for two.

 

[Deleted member 240115]

Define "everyone" ?

I'm glad it works out for you, that there's flexibility in where you operate your fleet carrier. For others though, there might be a reason they picked a specific location.

I'm with you regarding fleet carriers and the gameplay style they make available.. I honestly couldn't care less about the bubble.

Also, w/r/t "moving" somewhere else, if someone picked a spot within a region with the express intent of surveying that specific area, isn't it kind of B S to make them move halfway across a region just to make a map look cleaner?

I don't get everyone's problem, the areas involved are huge, if it turns out someone plants a carrier near mine I will happily move.

I've committed to 3 years, most likely it will be for the life of the game. It's the kind of emergent gameplay I really enjoy.

 

[Sunyavadin]

if someone picked a spot within a region with the express intent of surveying that specific area, isn't it kind of B S to make them move halfway across a region just to make a map look cleaner?

Except surely the goal of the DSSA isn't allowing the specific commanders to survey a region, it's to provide the most widespread possible coverage for commanders who might require their services?

 

[Deleted member 240115]

Oh, I'm sorry. I thought the idea was for people who are going to be in a specific area to volunteer to keep their ship parked in that spot for 1-2 years, not take "orders".

Except surely the goal of the DSSA isn't allowing the specific commanders to survey a region, it's to provide the most widespread possible coverage for commanders who might require their services?

 

[Dr. Nagi]

Oh, I'm sorry. I thought the idea was for people who are going to be in a specific area to volunteer to keep their ship parked in that spot for 1-2 years, not take "orders".

That thought was correct. Carriers are to remain in place for 1-2 years. GMP recognition requirement is 2 years commitment.
Also we want all upkeep cost covered at launch, to make sure that works out.

 

[Dr. Nagi]

Except surely the goal of the DSSA isn't allowing the specific commanders to survey a region, it's to provide the most widespread possible coverage for commanders who might require their services?

You can still survey a region with your regular exploration ship, using the placed DSSA carrier as a base. The carrier just needs to stay in the same spot.

 

[Dr. Nagi]

Define "everyone" ?

I'm glad it works out for you, that there's flexibility in where you operate your fleet carrier. For others though, there might be a reason they picked a specific location.

I'm with you regarding fleet carriers and the gameplay style they make available.. I honestly couldn't care less about the bubble.

Also, w/r/t "moving" somewhere else, if someone picked a spot within a region with the express intent of surveying that specific area, isn't it kind of B S to make them move halfway across a region just to make a map look cleaner?

That's why we limit carrier numbers per region. The original idea was just to get one into every region, but then waaayy more people signed up than anticipated. Also we highly suspect that many of those signed up won't actually fully commit to the project, even if they might be enthusiastic at the moment. So we want to make sure to get a decent coverage that makes sense and when we say we can put 2 or 3 carriers into a region because it is so large that there would be much space left uncovered, warranting an additional carrier, then putting those right next to each other completely defeats that purpose.

 

[Qohen Leth]

Oh, I'm sorry. I thought the idea was for people who are going to be in a specific area to volunteer to keep their ship parked in that spot for 1-2 years, not take "orders".

Actually no, it's the other way round.
Also no one is taking orders.

Now this conversation is starting to bore me, so simply put: project is designed as such, anyone who disagrees is welcome to not signup, or leave.

Now that's cleared, let's put this to bed.

 

[CMDR Serra]

If anyone drops out or decides after placing their carrier that they don't want to be where they said they would, let me know. I'll happily contribute to DSSA - tyranny and all. I really appreciated the experience of DW2, so happy to give back.

 

[Rudi Raumkraut]

Looks like I will move #44 deeper into the Outer Orion Spur region to better cover the area between other FCs...

Also I would like to suggest that the final destination is subject to change for a while cause after arrival and some survey we may find a system with a breathtaking view, a quadruple Tritium spot or whatever which will make it more attractive for the DSSA compared to the planned dest.
eg final destination is subject to change for a month and a radius of 500ly or such borders before its set in stone for 1,2 years...

 

[TransTechGirl]

Define "everyone" ?

I'm glad it works out for you, that there's flexibility in where you operate your fleet carrier. For others though, there might be a reason they picked a specific location.

I'm with you regarding fleet carriers and the gameplay style they make available.. I honestly couldn't care less about the bubble.

Also, w/r/t "moving" somewhere else, if someone picked a spot within a region with the express intent of surveying that specific area, isn't it kind of B S to make them move halfway across a region just to make a map look cleaner?

I'll define everyone as anyone incapable of being rational enough to understand that the areas of space involved are huge and having multiple fleet carriers close to each other would be pointless.

The initiative isn't designed so you can go to that one perfect spot that you love so much, it's to help all explorers, that will involve some flexibility on your part and some rules/leadership on the part of the DSSA.

 

[Deleted member 240115]

I'm glad we have that cleared up. Thanks.

Actually no, it's the other way round.
Also no one is taking orders.

Now this conversation is starting to bore me, so simply put: project is designed as such, anyone who disagrees is welcome to not signup, or leave.

Now that's cleared, let's put this to bed.

 

[Deleted member 240115]

We can do without insults and snipes. Thanks.

I'll define everyone as anyone incapable of being rational enough to understand that the areas of space involved are huge and having multiple fleet carriers close to each other would be pointless.

The initiative isn't designed so you can go to that one perfect spot that you love so much, it's to help all explorers, that will involve some flexibility on your part and some rules/leadership on the part of the DSSA.

 

[Deleted member 240115]

On paper that sounds like a great idea, however based on previous responses by others, expect pushback.
After all, the expectation isn't to be in that "perfect" spot.

Also I would like to suggest that the final destination is subject to change for a while cause after arrival and some survey we may find a system with a breathtaking view, a quadruple Tritium spot or whatever which will make it more attractive for the DSSA compared to the planned dest.
eg final destination is subject to change for a month and a radius of 500ly or such borders before its set in stone for 1,2 years...

 

[Straha Yeagar]

On paper that sounds like a great idea, however based on previous responses by others, expect pushback.
After all, the expectation isn't to be in that "perfect" spot.

Personal favorites are irrelevant.

 

[Slaani Ludlow]

On projects like this you can expect that at least 50% of the sign ups will bail out within the first few months or will actually never reach their intended region.
People are often enthusiastic and commit themself to stuff while something is new or in flavour of the month.

I would consider 3 FCs per region on signups as minimum to have chance of a decent coverage later.

 

[Commander Hyundai35]

Seem to be 4 carriers signed up to go to Drymans Point now?

 

[Commander Hyundai35]

Set up a discord for my DSSA expedition … https://discord.gg/wwz5RR

 

[Sunyavadin]

On projects like this you can expect that at least 50% of the sign ups will bail out within the first few months or will actually never reach their intended region.
People are often enthusiastic and commit themself to stuff while something is new or in flavour of the month.

YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYUP!

 

[Ska'ava]

FC Beta 2 - test run... 36 hyperspace jumps and DSSA Skarapa is on station in the Formidine Rift.