The Deinonychus Question... (JWE dinosaur models in JWE2)

Pixelated Sparkster

Pixelated Sparkster
With JWE 2 coming soon, I have been thinking of the Deinonychus.

Mainly because it was such a divisive dinosaur at launch of JWE because of the fin direction it had.

Now with Jurassic World Dominion supposedly giving the deinonychus a redesign, it would make sense to have the dinosaur in the game as a movie tie in, and with the movie appropriate look to boot.

But what about my baby? 🥺

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I am going to miss the finn look if that is the case as I have grown attached to the Robert Bakker inspired design. Would it be possible to have this model still be in the game? As an alternative model similar to the dinosaurs from thee RTJP DLC. Of the dinosaurs getting new depictions, this could be the most drastic, and I would still like to incubate a JWE deinonychus from time to time.

And where does this leave the models of the other JWE dinosaurs with potential film updates? From what I understand, this could include, but not limited to:

• Giganotosaurus
• Allosaurus
• Mamenchisaurus
• Dreadnoughtus
 

Pixelated Sparkster

Pixelated Sparkster
Mickey Megafauna said:
Do you think we’ll have a Dominion pack just like Fallen Kingdom.
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Yeah, I brought it up in your species thread :)

Guess the Sequel Species

With the confirmation of Jurassic World Evolution 2 with its 75 species of terrestrial, aerial, and aquatic reptiles, let’s speculate what the roster will look like. Confirmed: Amargasaurus, Brachiosaurus, Coelophysis, Mosasaurus, Nasutoceratops, Pteranodon, Stegosaurus, Triceratops...
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It would likely make sense, there are a whole bunch of animals that could be kept hidden for their reveal on the big screen, we might see a pack a week after the movie came out so people who wanted to watch the movie won't be spoiled by their inclusion in the game.
 

PCMR4Life

PCMR4Life
I like all the Dinosaurs in JWE and I hope they are all in JWE2. It would be disappointing if they aren't. I am not a game developer but I don't see how they couldn't just carry over to JWE2. Just with the JWE2 improvements. You would think it would be a major selling point.

We have all your old JWE dinosaur favorites with improvements and some new ones. They would be able to pad the Dinosaur list easily. They are already made.

I don't hear anyone saying they want the JWE dinos back. I want them and I can't wait to see them all, especially my favorites like the Rex.
 

Parritron

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I'm intrigued by how big the Deinonychus in the movie will be. The appearance appears practically identical to the JPII raptors. If they make them bigger or smaller they could "export" them to JWE2. If, on the other hand, they are the same size as the raptors, they should leave JWE's as it is.

I also hope that the ceratopsids in this new game have their sizes in condition. Styracosaurus for example is almost the same size as Triceratops. It is not about being scientifically precise, it is about giving a variety of sizes to these types of animals and at JWE it was a negative.
 

Pixelated Sparkster

Pixelated Sparkster
Parritron said:
I'm intrigued by how big the Deinonychus in the movie will be. The appearance appears practically identical to the JPII raptors. If they make them bigger or smaller they could "export" them to JWE2. If, on the other hand, they are the same size as the raptors, they should leave JWE's as it is.

I also hope that the ceratopsids in this new game have their sizes in condition. Styracosaurus for example is almost the same size as Triceratops. It is not about being scientifically precise, it is about giving a variety of sizes to these types of animals and at JWE it was a negative.
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If I could guess, I think the deinonychus would be like the new "velociraptors" of the post Jurassic World Era, because incubating dinosaurs won't be an ingen exclusive science, and that blue is the last of the JP/JW velociraptor. I am interested to see how the movie would portray them, and if that portrayal will be represented in the game.

I do remember that, there was talk about dinosaur sizing that was brought up because of the Ceratosaurus, Tyrannosaurus, Spinosaurus, and Giganotosaurus. At first I recalled them stating that the dinosaurs were sized as per Universal's guidelines, it left a lot of fans frustrated.

They did manage to fix that eventually, but it was a super intensive process, because the resizes were done manually and to redo those sizes, they ended up practically redoing the dinosaurs from scratch more or less.

However, it was a great learning experience and I believed they made a new rigging system for their Planet Zoo game so that such modifications could be easily applied and handled by other staff members, to make the process easier to change and apply.

If that rigging system is used in JWE2, then dinosaurs could get modified from their original size based on fan feedback. I recalled the ceratopsids, ankylosaurids, and stegosaurids subspecies were generally bigger than their real life counterparts. And yeah, JP is not that accurate to the real world dinosaurs, but I do agree with having variety to sizes. The early roster in terms of scale was generally too big in my opinion, as a lot of small herbivore niches were absent because of the upscaled size.

This makes me wonder what the old roster could look like in JWE2, we already have seen the T-rex with the new sam winston look, and the triceratops and stegosaurus both look to have new colorful options, with the triceratops sporting a cool shine for her horns. Maybe some of the dinosaurs that have yet to make a movie appearance could get a resize treatment, but we have to wait and see what the outcome would look like.
 

Mickey Megafauna

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Bad news, Spark. They’re promoting Atrociraptor instead. I think Deino may be on the chopping block.
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Atrociraptor

Atrociraptor is an extinct genus of dromaeosaur theropod dinosaur that lived in Alberta, Canada during the Late Cretaceous period. It lived in the Horseshoe Canyon Formation, living alongside famous species such as the Albertosaurus, Edmontonia, Edmontosaurus, Ornithomimus, Pachyrhinosaurus, and...
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Pixelated Sparkster

Pixelated Sparkster
Mickey Megafauna said:
Bad news, Spark. They’re promoting Atrociraptor instead. I think Deino may be on the chopping block.
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Atrociraptor

Atrociraptor is an extinct genus of dromaeosaur theropod dinosaur that lived in Alberta, Canada during the Late Cretaceous period. It lived in the Horseshoe Canyon Formation, living alongside famous species such as the Albertosaurus, Edmontonia, Edmontosaurus, Ornithomimus, Pachyrhinosaurus, and...
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Hmmmm This is rather interesting. I think this is like a cup half full or half empty situation. On one hand, yeah, the Deinonychus may get pulled from the roster. On the other hand, she might still be in the roster and represent another dromaeosaurid, as her inclusion in JWE was not based on any prior JP medium. I do think she might get a redesign when ported to JWE2, maybe a finless version, with the fin being an optional cosmetic.
 

Dantas

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It will be a shame not to have JWE's deinonychus. Their design in the game is so magnificent. It's a must-have species in all my parks in JWE.
 

TheMightyMegalosaurus

TheMightyMegalosaurus
I doubt they're going to cut any of the dinosaurs that have been in the films, and since Deinonychus is in Dominion it's going to stay. Remember that they confirmed that all the dinosaur species will have twelve skins each, so they could easily have the JWE Deinonychus and its skins as the first six options, and the Dominion design for the other six. And that also goes for Tyrannosaurus rex, keep the JW, JP, TLW, and III skins, then the rest can be the feathered Dominion design with some color and pattern variants. Also not forgetting that other dinosaurs from previous films and JWE1 that are also in Dominion can work the same, Giganotosaurus for example.
 

Pixelated Sparkster

Pixelated Sparkster
TheMightyMegalosaurus said:
I doubt they're going to cut any of the dinosaurs that have been in the films, and since Deinonychus is in Dominion it's going to stay. Remember that they confirmed that all the dinosaur species will have twelve skins each, so they could easily have the JWE Deinonychus and its skins as the first six options, and the Dominion design for the other six. And that also goes for Tyrannosaurus rex, keep the JW, JP, TLW, and III skins, then the rest can be the feathered Dominion design with some color and pattern variants. Also not forgetting that other dinosaurs from previous films and JWE1 that are also in Dominion can work the same, Giganotosaurus for example.
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Yeah, this makes sense with the recent reveal of the skin customization in JWE2 in the game informer article. I think the article did mention that it is like 12 skin color options, and 7 patterns, which could imply mixing and matching between the options for 84 unique combinations. I do think there could be dinosaurs with exceptions, like JWE models for dinosaurs like the deinonychus, allosaurus, and giganotosaurus, and movie skins for the Tyrannosaurus rex, raptors, and the aforementioned dominion dinosaurs.
 

Aramus418

Aramus418
TheMightyMegalosaurus said:
I doubt they're going to cut any of the dinosaurs that have been in the films, and since Deinonychus is in Dominion it's going to stay. Remember that they confirmed that all the dinosaur species will have twelve skins each, so they could easily have the JWE Deinonychus and its skins as the first six options, and the Dominion design for the other six. And that also goes for Tyrannosaurus rex, keep the JW, JP, TLW, and III skins, then the rest can be the feathered Dominion design with some color and pattern variants. Also not forgetting that other dinosaurs from previous films and JWE1 that are also in Dominion can work the same, Giganotosaurus for example.
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It was somthing like "up to" or "as many as" 12 colors crossed with 7 unique patterns which could potentially mean 84 skins per dino. Just like how the RtJP dlc skins made alterations to the model and texture in places, I think it would be cool if 1 or 2 patterns changed minor features on the dinos (i.e. a Deinonychus without the fins, an Amargasaurus with a full sail, raptors with feathers). It's unlikely, but with the opening scene of Dominion apparently showing real dinos from 65mya including a fuzzy rex and feathered dromeosaurs, who knows what they may do (I suspect there could be an "authenticity" dlc further down the line).
 

TheMightyMegalosaurus

TheMightyMegalosaurus
Aramus418 said:
It was somthing like "up to" or "as many as" 12 colors crossed with 7 unique patterns which could potentially mean 84 skins per dino. Just like how the RtJP dlc skins made alterations to the model and texture in places, I think it would be cool if 1 or 2 patterns changed minor features on the dinos (i.e. a Deinonychus without the fins, an Amargasaurus with a full sail, raptors with feathers). It's unlikely, but with the opening scene of Dominion apparently showing real dinos from 65mya including a fuzzy rex and feathered dromeosaurs, who knows what they may do (I suspect there could be an "authenticity" dlc further down the line).
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That would be cool, to coincide with Dominion's release similar to the Fallen Kingdom DLC.
 
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