The different wolves you get by changing the language of the game

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The overlap in morphology among temperate and taiga subspecies of the Grey Wolf is significant. IMO the worst option would have been to (fairly arbitrarily, given the fluidity of subspecies designations) assign a particular subspecies to the current model when there’s only very limited differences among Eurasian vs. North American populations. Many people complained when we got the Arctic wolf (and even the dingo) that it was a ‘reskin’ (even though it wasn’t) - I didn’t, but probably would if someone tries to sell me a temperate NA wolf and also a temperate European wolf - that would be a reskin - same model, same environmental requirements, virtually the same pattern. I don’t see how limiting the range to just a limited part of NA benefits anyone, other than people who think that common names mean a lot more than they really do.

edit: to reply to the OP.. the wolf is the same in every language - it is Canis lupus. Part of the point of scientific names is to remove / resolve the issue of species/subspecies etc. having different common names in different regions or languages.
I understand that, I do. If the wolf had more generic scenery, then I wouldn't mind, but the fact that Frontier specifically chose a theme that's typically associated with the Americas, it isn't consistent, a stupid pet peeve of mine, since I need everything to be consistent.
Personally, the Arctic wolf is cool beans smothered in steak sauce (my way of saying awesome sauce), and I love the dingo, too. I don't consider them reskins. I just don't like to have the main species then a specific subspecies. It's like it's repeating itself.

I don't know, maybe I'm viewing it the wrong way, and I highly doubt they'll change it. Right now the priority is the tapir and camel/bison sizes, while most of the community also wants the big cats to be redesigned, too
 
While a lot of species got subspecies, only some species are represented as being specific subspecies in zoos rather than just named as their species.

I think the most logical for Planet Zoo is to follow the same pattern as real zoos do when it comes to species and subspecies.

Grey wolves are typically bred purely after their subspecies in zoos. Not many 'good' zoos hold wolves which are a mix of subspecies.

So I think grey wolves should be made a specific subspecies in game because of that.


Well the Arctic wolf actually seem to be an exception here, apparently most Arctic wolf in captivity come from animals that has been mixed in the past.
 
It will depend in the decision of each team, at this moment I can give as an example the name in Spanish is incorrect "Makenze's wolf" "lobo de Makenzy" this is an exclusive subspecies of northeastern North America (Canis Lupus occidentalis), when in the zoopedia it only says "canis familiaris" then in Spanish that is simply "wolf" "lobo" regardless of the subspecies, and although it does not really make a major change, I think it is a mistake of the Spanish translation team not to perform a simple and correct translation.

At the end of the day we can or have ignored the subspecies and use the species in general, putting wolves like European wolves or Bengal tigers like Sumatran or baird's tapir like Brazilian tapir. the important thing is our own immersion in the end.

And if not, we have a great range of high-quality mods that are only going to keep increasing.
 
That's the species name for a domestic dog, though
yes I had the idea crossed when writing, i meant "canis lupus"

Ícono de validado por la comunidad
 
Regarding the Timberwolf/Mackenzie Wolf/Northwestern Wolf Situation: Timberwolf isn't even a Subspecies. It is a Term under which multiple North American Subspecies are collected. I think Mackenzie Wolf and Northwestern Wolf are different Names for the same Subspecies.
If you compare the Body to Photos it is also clear that they planned it to be a North American Subspecies. Most likely the Northwestern Wolf. I don't understand why they can't make it so that it is the same in every Language.

Also before someone feels the Need again to claim that there are no Errors in the Zoopedia, look at the Pages of some other Species and you'll find Errors (Example: Social Requirements of Ring Tailed Lemur, Red Panda and Giant Panda, Temperature for Cuviers Dwarf Caiman.....)

I would say make a Issue Tracker Reports but in recent Times no one seems to submit to the Reports anymore 😟
Eastern timber wolf is often used, as is Mackenzie valley wolf. I hadn't seen other north American subspecies called timber wolves at all in English, though, except maybe colloquially. Are there any Eurasian subspecies with this moniker as well? Is the German word for the entire species or just their local subspecies or populations? Of course this illustrates the whole reason we have binomial nomenclature to begin with. "Official" common and colloquial names can vary and overlap, not only between and within subspecies. Sometimes two completely unrelated plants or animals will have the same common name (North American robins and European robins are entirely different birds). There are also differences between UK English vs US English with respect to common names of the same species.

It does get especially confusing with gray wolves. They are a very widely distributed species. Also, there is debate on how many gray wolf subspecies there even are in north America with as few as 4 and as many as, well, I can't remember, but it's a large number.

There is also the matter of the Indian Elephant in the game. The term Asian elephant is more commonly used for the entire species, at least in US zoos. Not sure which subspecies is most commonly on display over here or if that differs from zoos in Europe and other continents. I learned that the Indian elephant is a subspecies of Asian elephant, but I don't recall at the moment if the Indian elephant in the game is listed as the actual Indian subspecies, or simply as E. maximus.

I notice they changed the African elephant designation to reflect the specific savanna subspecies, as distinct from the forest elephant subspecies, which is not the one usually seen in zoos.
 
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I just want to remind everyone that my main goal with this thread was to show that depending on the language in which you play the game, you get different wolves, Since the English game (which is the original language) and the zoopedia information indicate that the timber wolf is the grey wolf, I think all the translations should be updated to reflect that.
 
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