Are you sure? I know it won't directly affect reputation by spreading it around, but I thought it helped expedite the ranking up process when you have higher rep with multiple small factions loyal to the larger faction you're working toward ranking up in.
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Are you sure? I know it won't directly affect reputation by spreading it around, but I thought it helped expedite the ranking up process when you have higher rep with multiple small factions loyal to the larger faction you're working toward ranking up in.
In my experience (on the Federal side and having done five different save games) I've been able to make friendly with just one or two factions and get missions to rank up to the first five levels (from Recruit to Chief). I'm sure it is similar in the Empire. Here's a clue: When they start handing you system passes it's time to start branching out and making new friends... usually with factions in those systems you just got the pass for.
Thanks ^^
Edit: What about the bugs that I've read about where people get a pass or don't get a pass and get their rank progression stuck. Is there a way to avoid this? I'm not really even sure what the bug is exactly.
Edit: What about the bugs that I've read about where people get a pass or don't get a pass and get their rank progression stuck. Is there a way to avoid this? I'm not really even sure what the bug is exactly.
I made allied with Feds and Empire from trading only, allied with Alliance from only selling exploration data (two separated sales, total 150-160 million).
This is not the same as what the OP is asking.
@OP, yes I think it is best to spread around as you do get rep from the faction owning the station you sell to. From the small amounts I've done, I have gone directly to friendly with a local faction a few times I've sold to.
Reputation, Rank, Influence. I just don't get it.
Ok, I have read TONS of forums posts on this. I have scoured the web. I have read all the rank farming guides. I just don't understand. Can someone please help explain this to me so I can make some sense of this. I am not trying to grind anything here specifically. I just want to know what I am doing and what it is having an effect on.
I understand there are three major factions: Empire, Federation, and the Alliance. I know that there are tons of smaller, independent factions in each system. Now let me start bringing things up I do not understand.
1. If you are allied with a major faction, then every single smaller faction that is part of the bigger faction, shows up as allied to me. Does this mean I still need to raise my reputation with the smaller faction? Or is it already maxed out from being allied in the first place? If the smaller faction still has it's own separate reputation level for me personally, how can I see it to know where I stand?
2. Where do smaller, independent factions fit into this picture? If you have a Federation system that has one independent faction in it, does that faction matter to me? Does doing missions for that smaller independent faction increase my Federation reputation simply because it's in a Federation controlled system?
3. Do conflict zone kills have any effect on reputation for any factions at all? I get mixed answers on this. I have personally gathered a few million in conflict zone kills and turned into a faction I had never done anything for, and it remained neutral, so I am guessing it does not. I wasn't able to find anything specifically on this at all though.
4. Can someone explain what I am seeing in this screen shot I am going to post. This is after completing a mission. You cannot see this information anywhere else other than immediately after completely a mission as far as I know.
I guess as of now, my big issue is that I do not know when "enough is enough" as far as a faction in a system is concerned. I go into a Federation system and all the federation factions are already allied. How many missions do I need to do for them to help progress my naval rank? Are they already maxed out? Do I have to do the missions for the independent factions? How can I see what progress I am making to know when I have done enough missions for the factions in the system I am currently in?
Ok, I have read TONS of forums posts on this. I have scoured the web. I have read all the rank farming guides. I just don't understand. Can someone please help explain this to me so I can make some sense of this. I am not trying to grind anything here specifically. I just want to know what I am doing and what it is having an effect on.
I understand there are three major factions: Empire, Federation, and the Alliance. I know that there are tons of smaller, independent factions in each system. Now let me start bringing things up I do not understand.
1. If you are allied with a major faction, then every single smaller faction that is part of the bigger faction, shows up as allied to me. Does this mean I still need to raise my reputation with the smaller faction? Or is it already maxed out from being allied in the first place? If the smaller faction still has it's own separate reputation level for me personally, how can I see it to know where I stand?
2. Where do smaller, independent factions fit into this picture? If you have a Federation system that has one independent faction in it, does that faction matter to me? Does doing missions for that smaller independent faction increase my Federation reputation simply because it's in a Federation controlled system?
3. Do conflict zone kills have any effect on reputation for any factions at all? I get mixed answers on this. I have personally gathered a few million in conflict zone kills and turned into a faction I had never done anything for, and it remained neutral, so I am guessing it does not. I wasn't able to find anything specifically on this at all though.
4. Can someone explain what I am seeing in this screen shot I am going to post. This is after completing a mission. You cannot see this information anywhere else other than immediately after completely a mission as far as I know.
I guess as of now, my big issue is that I do not know when "enough is enough" as far as a faction in a system is concerned. I go into a Federation system and all the federation factions are already allied. How many missions do I need to do for them to help progress my naval rank? Are they already maxed out? Do I have to do the missions for the independent factions? How can I see what progress I am making to know when I have done enough missions for the factions in the system I am currently in?
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1. No. Allied=maxed out.
2. No. Unless the faction has a federation badge next to it. I did this in one system and it made no difference to my federation status. Allied is allied.
3. No. Conflict zones are sub games or "mini games". Just like the seasons, enjoy them as they come and go. Just go there to play pew pew. I fought for one side against the chosen enemy, the side I fought for then have me an "unfriendly" status, so either they didn't appreciate my help or the mini game subroutine got confused as to who I was fighting for!
4. No. It's a "chimera". As in an the definition of an illusory unattainable objective. A group of players did a mass attempt at altering the sliders, by hammering missions for one faction. The result was a 2% increase.
Not sure about this one. I've found missions for allied factions that were unobtainable because the faction didn't trust me enough despite being allied.
Doing missions raises your reputation with/the influence of the faction that gave the mission. Influence is measured in percentages, so any time a faction gains influence the other factions must lose influence. If you do missions for the independent faction you'll raise it's influence and cause the Federation factions to lose influence.
Completing the mission increased your reputation with both factions, raised the influence of Independents of Khepri, helped Labour of Nagnatae toward entering a boom state, and helped Independents of Khepri toward avoiding a bust state.
It is not maxed. You can raise your reputation further. And you can't see the "real" reputation, it is hidden.
Even with independent faction "allied" is around 80% of maximum reputation, not 100%.
Independent factions are independent of big three. There is no connection.
Yes, combat bonds affect reputation and influence. I gained access to 2 systems with permit mainly with conflict zones.
Don't take bulletin board missions with conflict zones, they sometimes (or always, tested only 2 times) harm your reputation, it's a bug.
Don't kill enemies father than 50-60km of conflict zone center, otherwise you will be given a bounty.
Do a lot of missions for different Fed-aligned factions, don't stay in one place. Eventually naval mission will pop up.
Thank you for clearing some of this stuff up. I do realize the entire mission system is being overhauled maybe in a few weeks. One thing I wanted to add to this in case anyone else reads it looking for help, is that since the personal reputation level for us as a player is hidden, the only way you can sort of tell if you are high or low, is based on the payouts of the missions being offered.
So if a faction you were working on starts handing out high paying missions, you are probably personally allied with them at that point and might want to move on to a new system.
So if a faction you were working on starts handing out high paying missions, you are probably personally allied with them at that point and might want to move on to a new system.
FDEV, please, some words on faction reputation needed
i am ensign at federation, baron at empire.
want to get to max rank in both.
i know that it's best to become allied with many subfactions to get the missions.
that's where the problem starts.
i AM allied with ALL subfactions i come across.
it shows allied at system map, at statistics panel, and when i do the first mission for them in the
summary screen, too.
this is the case in every new system i visit, i know there are many first timers in the list cause
i'm using TCE (use it. support it. it's great!) and scan / save the systems i come across.
so,
1.: can we state the reputation system is buggy, at least?
2.: will it change with 1.3?
3.: will it become harder to gain influence in 1.3?
please, a few official words about this isn't really spoiling anything for 1.3 me thinks.
i am ensign at federation, baron at empire.
want to get to max rank in both.
i know that it's best to become allied with many subfactions to get the missions.
that's where the problem starts.
i AM allied with ALL subfactions i come across.
it shows allied at system map, at statistics panel, and when i do the first mission for them in the
summary screen, too.
this is the case in every new system i visit, i know there are many first timers in the list cause
i'm using TCE (use it. support it. it's great!) and scan / save the systems i come across.
so,
1.: can we state the reputation system is buggy, at least?
2.: will it change with 1.3?
3.: will it become harder to gain influence in 1.3?
please, a few official words about this isn't really spoiling anything for 1.3 me thinks.
This is a problem that many people have come across- myself included. Although I seem to be stuck at Lt. Commander at the moment, I still hope that the system works as it used to before:
Even if it shows "Allied" with a subfaction because you are allied with the aligned major faction, you are in fact "neutral"' with them when you arrive in a new system. But by doing missions for them, you can still gain local rep and eventually you will get a rank ascension mission. Once you are at that point, do the rank mission and then move on to another, fresh system and repeat.
The key to telling that you are not allied with the local faction yet is that you don't get rally high-paying missions at first, and that you can still get an upwards arrow with the local faction althoug it says "allied".
As for 1.3, I have the feeling this is going to change quite a bit, so ranking up now is a good idea I feel. To me, Powerplay suggests that the powers are going to face each other, and then it might not be possible anymore to be allied with several factions at the same time who are at war with each other...
Even if it shows "Allied" with a subfaction because you are allied with the aligned major faction, you are in fact "neutral"' with them when you arrive in a new system. But by doing missions for them, you can still gain local rep and eventually you will get a rank ascension mission. Once you are at that point, do the rank mission and then move on to another, fresh system and repeat.
The key to telling that you are not allied with the local faction yet is that you don't get rally high-paying missions at first, and that you can still get an upwards arrow with the local faction althoug it says "allied".
As for 1.3, I have the feeling this is going to change quite a bit, so ranking up now is a good idea I feel. To me, Powerplay suggests that the powers are going to face each other, and then it might not be possible anymore to be allied with several factions at the same time who are at war with each other...
the mission system is faulty atm, too.
most of the times, when i arrive at a station and directly go to the bulletin board, i could accept all the missions listed.
i check the market, come back, voila, same missions as seconds before now show up 'faction does not trust you enough'.
most of the times, when i arrive at a station and directly go to the bulletin board, i could accept all the missions listed.
i check the market, come back, voila, same missions as seconds before now show up 'faction does not trust you enough'.
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