PvP THE END OF THE GRIEFER OF WYRD AFTER 2000 VICTIMS

[Sethiest]

Please do yourself a favor and don't actually fly that. It's a coffin.

Dont worry I wont........

I'm flying a Python instead........that turns like a tombstone. But at least the python coffin has like 4.3k hull and shielded modules so I might actually escape.

Fear my space coffin! Or dont. Probably the latter. https://s.orbis.zone/3p4g

 

[cmdr Ramius007]

I mean even the game describes it as the choice for bounty hunters.....but i dont liiiiiiike it pls fdev

But for me its the space for booster, wake scanners and KWS

FAS not lose that much with 1 less utility, and with 2 utilities for defences its still ok, but my experience with wake scanner is similar to torpedoes, if somebody know i have it, he low drop just after hi wake and i cant catch him even with g5 fast scan after chasing across 2+systems.

 

[znôrt]

Please do yourself a favor and don't actually fly that. It's a coffin.

care to elaborate?

 

[ryan_m]

care to elaborate?

Let's compare build stats for each. We'll ignore weapons because those come down to personal preference.

Coffin:

• 545 m/s boost
• 1,057mj shield prismatic (66%/22%/46% thermal/kinetic/explosive resists)
• 1,214mj in SCBs
• 1,602 armor (31%/31%/26% resists)

This build is slow, has VERY weak shields for a prismatic, and most of the HP is in SCBs which can be negated by a single cascade rail. One chaff means any gimbals in the fight will have 100% ToT after around 2 minutes assuming the pilot fires as often as he possibly can, but ultimately it won't matter because if this guy gets focused (which he will when they see only 2 boosters on the prismatic) he'll be dead before he can get all the chaff off. Once shields drop, this guy is going to evaporate because there are no MRPs and he's running an OC5 plant which can be zeroed in about 2 rail shots.

Meta:

• 555 m/s boost
• 1,083mj shield fast charge bi-weave (56%/49%/63% resists)
• 2,404 armor (42%/42%/41% resists)

This build is 10 m/s faster which translates to more agility under fire. Double chaff means gimbals are useless for at least 5 minutes if the pilot maintains uptime. Significantly better resists across the board for shields and armor means more effective health against non-PA weapons. Shields will take around 40 seconds to rebuild from broken which is do-able if you're reasonably evasive. Plant is armored so it won't get shot out, MRP protects it and other critical internals as well.

The meta build is much more survivable compared to the coffin build here and it's not even close.

 

[Slange Lands]

Maybe if you guys were better at what you do, it might be more fun and we might come back.

Git gud, please.

I am trying to be a better pilot for the sake of better piloting, because it amuses me and because the Elite Dangerous world is so beautiful....not to be able to engage the best or legendary pilots.

 

[Hermione Granger]

they are not useless. dont believe what the outlaws want that you think

KWS is the best counter for crime on trolling. and that the wake scanner is working is proofed by our mission II and mission III
you can see them tomorrow on our inaara mission and now on my youtube channel

Are you sure? unless you by troll you mean scan and highwake?

https://imgur.com/a/sS8yrK9

Source: https://imgur.com/a/sS8yrK9
The above is one night...

 

[Sethiest]

The meta build is much more survivable compared to the coffin build here and it's not even close.

Yeah not even close. But thats why its the meta.

But also the meta doesnt have a KWS or wake scanner which was kinda the point of my build. Thats the only reason it has overcharged PP is because the damn scanners take up insane amounts of power. But I see your point and I dont think you're wrong at all.

 

[Cmdr ST4R F0X]

Lemme jus leave this here,
I need gameplay.....

 

[Tinvanno]

many griefers fly 6 boosters atm.
some RoA Pilots for example

there are not more then 6 slots
so i dont see the problem @Lateralus

if some enforcers dont fly (or dont like it) fdl or mamba in every ship which has only 4 utility slots the one missing hurts even more.

Yeah thats right!
My Anaconda has 6 boosters

 

[Slange Lands]

Lemme jus leave this here,
I need gameplay.....

That's very nice, dear.

 

[Slange Lands]

Akuma, dear, sweetheart, hunnybunny,
You know I love you.
But if you post another video in this forum that is not PURELY EDUCATIONAL in the most ALTRUISTIC WAY

I will try to join RoA

then die, languishing
languishing

languishing

 

[Feros-da-Grundig]

Yeah not even close. But thats why its the meta.

But also the meta doesnt have a KWS or wake scanner which was kinda the point of my build. Thats the only reason it has overcharged PP is because the damn scanners take up insane amounts of power. But I see your point and I dont think you're wrong at all.

If you want to run scanners, E rate and/or turn them off for combat. Power problem solved. The only scanner worth A rating is PWA in my opinion. It's insane to run anything other than armored PP in a combat build (perhaps low emission exception for some stealth builds, and even that's iffy).

I also know I'll never defeat a well flown dedicated PvP build with any of my builds that have a scanner. As long as one is OK with that, it's fine not to fly the meta and to sacrifice some combat ability. But if I wanted to consistently kill gankers I wouldn't kid myself that I could sacrifice util slots for scanners. I'd just meta up and start pulling gankers - it's not like you need a KWS to know who's ganking.

 

[Bigmaec]

Akuma, dear, sweetheart, hunnybunny,
You know I love you.
But if you post another video in this forum that is not PURELY EDUCATIONAL in the most ALTRUISTIC WAY

I will try to join RoA

then die, languishing
languishing

languishing

Me hope you haz good enough germanz for zat.

 

[TEBORI]

no but to counter crimes on trolling @Feros-da-Grundig

 

[Morbad]

But for me its the space for booster, wake scanners and KWS. https://s.orbis.zone/3p3t

Meta:

Slange's build has obvious flaws that render it problematic, but the 'meta' build is a pure combat vessel that is also unsuitable for the task at hand.

Since making a bounty hunting pursuit vessel that will be effective in cornering a high-skill opponent in a pure combat ship and downing them in a 1v1 is generally a lost cause, I'm going operate under the assumption that this sort of bounty hunting will either involve the support of a large wing, or that the wanted CMDR is going to be a lower threat combatant geared toward making quick kills against equally incompetent prey.

Thus, my hypothetical toilet plunger FDL: https://s.orbis.zone/3paz

It's pretty soft, but against a my-first-corvette gimbal ganker, or someone who has already been run ragged by half a dozen 'lawfuls' out for blood that's ok.

Been so long since I used a wake scanner for anything that didn't involve farming datamined wake exceptions that I don't remember if they have a boot time. If they do, swap out the monstered A5 PP for a stripped down A6.

 

[ryan_m]

Slange's build has obvious flaws that render it problematic, but the 'meta' build is a pure combat vessel that is also unsuitable for the task at hand.

Since making a bounty hunting pursuit vessel that will be effective in cornering a high-skill opponent in a pure combat ship and downing them in a 1v1 is generally a lost cause, I'm going operate under the assumption that this sort of bounty hunting will either involve the support of a large wing, or that the wanted CMDR is going to be a lower threat combatant geared toward making quick kills against equally incompetent prey.

Thus, my hypothetical toilet plunger FDL: https://s.orbis.zone/3paz

It's pretty soft, but against a my-first-corvette gimbal ganker, or someone who has already been run ragged by half a dozen 'lawfuls' out for blood that's ok.

Been so long since I used a wake scanner for anything that didn't involve farming datamined wake exceptions that I don't remember if they have a boot time. If they do, swap out the monstered A5 PP for a stripped down A6.

At that point, you'd be better off in a Phantom if all you're going to do is run down other players. That ship would get absolutely deleted against even a partially competent player. There would be literally zero reason to ever run from it.

 

[Feros-da-Grundig]

no but to counter crimes on trolling @Feros-da-Grundig

Sounds fun.

 

[Morbad]

At that point, you'd be better off in a Phantom if all you're going to do is run down other players. That ship would get absolutely deleted against even a partially competent player. There would be literally zero reason to ever run from it.

Both the Phantom and Mamba are more suited to this.

Anyway, it certainly wouldn't be for going toe to toe with competent players, it would be for flushing turds (hence the name), or finishing off someone who had just barely escaped and is already shot to hell. In either case, I wouldn't want the target to run from it.

Of course, I wouldn't fly it, or most any ship with a KWS/WS. My CMDR isn't anything more than an opportunistic bounty hunter.

 

[Feros-da-Grundig]

I'm a typical mediocre ganker and voracity_t absolutely stomped me with a force shell build. I felt like a kid wrestling a grownup, even though with "typical" builds it usually takes him a while to kill me.

So just git gud and run something exotic like that which scrubs like me aren't used to. There ya go lawfuls, you're welcome.

 

[Wargfoot]

I'm a typical mediocre ganker and voracity_t absolutely stomped me with a force shell build. I felt like a kid wrestling a grownup, even though with "typical" builds it usually takes him a while to kill me.

So just git gud and run something exotic like that which scrubs like me aren't used to. There ya go lawfuls, you're welcome.

I've thought this for some time now, even though I've no practical experience.
It seems to me that running a non-meta ship that excels at one particular task would be a way to win.
Going after a ganker with a build they've seen and already beat 1,000 times seems like an exercise in futility.