THE FORMIDINE RIFT MYSTERY (Part 4)

[Jorki Rasalas]

No that was Jmanis as he regularly likes to remind people in the Canonn thread



I agree the Asp should out jump a Conda, but a stripped down Conda always had a larger range than a stripped down Asp. But in general, I still find the Asp to be the more pleasant to explore in.

I really want to like flying a DBX because it only needs a small landing pad and looks nicer than tha Asp, but I tried it recently for a short jaunt out to Barnard's Loop. Unfortunately, the 4A maximum Fuel scoop is really a downer. I kept looking at my fuel guage thinking, "If this was my Asp, I would be jumping by now... come on, hurry up".

I've also made a couple of trips in an Anaconda too. During those, I was pining for the Asp too.

I also travelled to the Conflux region in an armed Python, with around a 30ly range. Despite a slight frustration over speed of travel, I enjoyed it much more than either the Conda or DBX.

Not tried a DBX yet. I like my Annie but the turning rate is too slow and visibility too limited; she needs an observer/copilot position in the chin window. I like the AspX for exploration, the visibility is great, & have both an armed version with 40.2ly and a 54ly unarmed version. However to me the Python is the nicest ship to fly and it just looks like a spaceship should, but mine is an armed trader & only has 23ly so I wouldnt use her for exploration.

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Honestly, it's much less enjoyable to explore in. That's my experience at least. You really notice how sluggish it is in supercruise, that's it's exponentially harder to land and explore high mass planets in your srv, that's its a very poor cannon flyer, and that the cockpit doesn't offer as nice of a view. Yeah, you can get a good jump range and safely scan, jump, scan, jump but it's not the greatest for truly exploring (though arguably the best at just grinding out the rank). Once you add an srv bay, a proper shield for landings you may as well just fly the much cheaper and much more suited exploration ships so you can enjoy the experience.

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have you tried the long range surface scanner? In most system I've found I can sit a scoop while scanning things until full. I'm also really really enjoying the ability to drop into a belt and scan moons and other bodies while enjoying the view. Greatest thing to ever happen to exploration!

Yep, got long range DSS and light sensors on all my ships apart from the Vulture which is my BH ship & that's got an AFMU instead of DSS (still got ADS though) and wide angle sensors.

 

[sfx]

Tsu got there first, followed by Raan and Yuri. Unfortunately, due connection issues, we could not get the Cobra to instance correctly with the protagonists. Thus we had to give the clue manually.

Drew or anyone else, how was the clue "given manually"? How/where/when were we supposed to receive the clue?

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

I tried to come up with a fit for the DBX. But i think i will stay away from it. The smal fuel-scoop and the inability to carry at least a small cargo rack (you never know what you will find out there) made me pass on it. I love the Asp the most. Awesome view and able to carry everything you'll need.

But for long-range, like the rift, i still use the conda. Yes the view is bad, you'll have to get used to the turning in SC. But on long range? I'll take it. Just for the ability to launch the fighter after hours of "honk -> scoop ->scan -> jump" for a little fun. And it gives you a lot more safety. Like 2 AFMUs. Still can't beat the fun in an Asp out in the black.

Have you (or anyone else?) tried using a fighter for planetary surface searching while the ship follows at altitude? Seems like it should be better than using a ship for eyeball search.

 

[Baton]

I visited Zurara in DBX and it was fine. You can feel it has small fuelscoop, but I did not run in any trouble with that.
My bigest deal breaker is lack of MC, so I cannot invite any friends to have a look at things, so I guess I will stick to ASP.
On the other hand if anyone does not want to reject requests to join, then DBX is your ship of choice

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

This leads to a pair of listening posts - one in the bubble, one in Colonia - which lead to a crashed T-9 on the surface of Colonia 5 E A. Canonn have more at https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...other-mysteries-Thread-9-The-Canonn?p=5382202 - if they've yet found a use for the item found in the crashed T-9 I missed it.


https://community.elitedangerous.com/en/galnet/uid/57d288219657ba1d0de9a57d

At the time - chronologically it's stuck in the middle of the early Metadrive stories, before the Sirius hostile takeover - I checked and there was no real commander with that name. Additionally, neither the main game PvP crowd nor the CQC crowd had ever heard of such a tournament.

The story basically got no attention at the time - except for the occasional person asking PvPers if they knew what it was about - and has since been quietly forgotten.

I'm pretty sure it's important, but I have no idea how, and other than the link to Chi Orionis, it doesn't appear obviously related to anything else that's happened (except perhaps allegorically?).

Good point, it does seem suggestive of a storyline. Perhaps a search of Chi Orionis and its local rags?
I thought the Hyford thing had been solved, so was a bit confused when it resurfaced. Perhaps Canonn haven't fully researched the data, things get slack out in the colonies.
I bet they haven't swept up the biscuit crumbs for weeks.

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Ran Corsen never did reveal what was in the Exodus files did he?

Not yet, explicitly at least, possibly that was in the lost Salomé speech.

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One thing looks kinda odd to me.

Why has the Dynasty-mission been abandoned? They send out fleets for investigation and preparation, and killed them. Ok i guess? But they never build upon that. Yes we have the bases in Heart and Soul now (don't know about bases in the gap or cunflux right now) but other than that? Nothing. No outpost, station or planet settled. For me that looks like they dropped that plan a long time ago. Why? All this work for nothing?

If the Thargoids, or whoever, attack tomorrow there is no escape zone. Yeah, there is Colonia, but that was kind of an accident.

So for me the question is: Why did they abandon this plan?

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I am more interested in his Meta-Drive stuff. No news about this, yet.

Possibly because the listening posts found new areas of other alien activity ( FRift the locked Bovomit region), and it was deemed to be a waste of time to move out there.

 

[Asadaine]

Fake news. Seems to be a thing nowadays!

Cheers,

Drew.

Ah,

I see you have assumed your true visage... Darth Wagar

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

I've just started outwards in an AspX. Thought long and hard about a Conda, but there's something about the Asp with it's huge cockpit canopy.

I didn't spend enough time engineering it but I'm doing 47ly, carrying no weapons and a small shield. 2 class 3 afmu and a 6b fuel scoop. Srv bay as well. Point defense simply out of habit, and so i can run away. Long range modded scanner is a must. Mine's only g2 and the difference is immense.

I'm not out for jump-honk-jump-honk, so i figure with a range slightly below the top end, I'll end up in systems unvisited by a lot of ships with max ranges.

I'm taking it easy, about 2.5kly from Sol, and enjoying the ride.

I found a few undiscovered systems, but was surprised at the amount of surveying that had been done out there. Maybe if you go a way beyond Zurara, like 1000ly....
Just want to get the FRift Alpha base data package before going to sell my trip data at Base Camp. Wish FD would hurry up with my bug report, i need either the Alpha base data package that I scanned & didn't receive, or the data point timer resetting so I can go back and rescan it.

 

[G4RY]

Thanks for the tips. I have still got a 32t fuel tank, and Class 6A Fuel Scoop. However, looking at the link you provided - the 70ly range on the Anaconda (I can't believe it) - I'm thinking I have the wrong ship altogether now (weird in view of the fact it's supposedly designed for exploration).

Have a little play around with this.. https://coriolis.edcd.io/outfit/ana...==.EweloBhBGA2EoFMCGBzANokMK6A=&bn=Jumpaconda

Bare in mind i have just applied 'best' outcome for Overcharged Power Plant and Clean Drive tuning. Overcharge PP wont be a problem because of the clean drives + you only need to be near a star for 31 seconds to refuel. Or even throw your 6A fuel scoop on the build, but that only decreases the time by 4 seconds. As i said earlier, i would get some money back for your 6A and go for a 6B/6C. EDIT-- Or a 7C.

Leave your AFMU disabled until you need it [up]

Engine focused or charge enhanced for your PD.

And pray to RNGeesus you get a 54% roll for your FSD Even a 50% would get you 61ly.

But this is pretty much all you need for long range exploring.

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

Yep, I agree something is there and Salomè in her Clipper and luc in his cobra must have got in. I've listened to all the other theories and the non permit systems inside, plus Salomè having a stock of jumporium and Drews tendency for Greek mythology and was just pondering when fussing my cat (whose name is Ariadne) and it got me wondering if we have a jumpable labyrinth in there. But I'd like to run it with jump range to spare and ready for the Minotaur if that's what took luc out. Got enough to buy and fit a conda and do the engineering but would leave me low and I have BGS to grind currently, but I think 46E is the way in.

As to Hyford, there is one in the game. Add him to your friend list and see if he comes back to you. I have just in case we have another npc commander on the prowl. At least if nothing he/she will get a blast at seeing the message.

Not so sure. Look what recently happened to the last Cmdr befriended by loads of Rifters!

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Well, according to the lore the Dark Wheel broke into two factions many years ago. One, under Baldy Shorthair Scarface Ryder, set up in Shinrarta Dezhra brokering missions to take tourists to Sag A*. It is likely the other faction we are looking for.

Edit: I figure there is a tourist beacon somewhere on the other faction, that tells us where Raxxla is.

My diagnosis is that you are suffering from a seriously misplaced sense of optimism, and delusions of rationality!
Mwahahaha

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Hyford is aware of the messages. He and I are friends and in contact. I'm told he has also been contacted be the CoR. However he claims to know nothing about the thing he is accused of. Now what was that thing HexEdit did?

Which is odd as that's what Andy Gill said too.
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What do you mean 'memories'. You can't seriously be telling me you... give me a moment here I am having a lot of trouble processing this... you... ... left... Yorkshire?





I can't really see this. If they are both clones that is a bit of a co-incidence that they would, out of six trillion people, happen to meet. And if they are it can't be of the same person/each other as they might just have noticed that maybe? Oh look you look like a old version of me? Oh look, you look like a young version of me? Oh look Salome, it's you on the video, how can that be? I don't know Hassan, must be a total co-incidence... hmmm.

EDIT: unless Rebecca edited more than just her memory, but went in for facial alterations too.

Alas, due to pressures of finding work in the 70's.

@DrewW: Yes, I always thought clones were identical by definition, so what gives here Drew??
Edit: and you thought it was all over after Salomé's death. This is just the start of the cross-examination regarding clues and lore!!

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

I traded Sheffield for Miami. Tell me you wouldn't



You're not still believing Rebecca met Salome by accident are you? I bet you think Luko is actually Italian!

Well I've been to Miami and liked it (but all that Vice, honestly! ), and I've been to Sheffield, but when I visited you couldn't see anything for the smoke from the blast furnaces.

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This thread has all the bliss you'll ever need

This is not the Bliss you're looking for...waves hand mysteriously

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Oh dear, I've fallen in with a bunch of northerners. But then again currently being in the lizard village in Cornwall that's just about everybody apart from 20 odd houses.

Split 50/50 Kent and Cornwall here so as southern as they come.

So is David Icke a neighbour?

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I live near Bath, so that makes at least one other southerner

I went to university in Bath, so Northerners colonised it in the 70s!

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

You manipulate the markets: GalNet bust/boom reports
You play powers against each other: GalNet Powers report

Notice these articles list systems about conflict and economy don't really list the systems affected in any particular order? Isn't that odd? Not even alphabetically. Have the shady powers that be been sending there communiques HIPS? Right under our noses where most would just brush them aside as ambient static?

Is there a hidden code here, in the key of Exodus? Does anyone really value this weekly correspondence for its face value?

That's a new thought-encrypted messages within Galnet articles? Where are the cryptographers??

 

[eadghe]

Have you (or anyone else?) tried using a fighter for planetary surface searching while the ship follows at altitude? Seems like it should be better than using a ship for eyeball search.

This was the first thing I tried after fighters have been added, unfortunately due to the limited range you get distance warnings all the time and I decided its not worth it, not until they add the ability to dismiss you main ship similar as when in the srv.

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

Fake news. Seems to be a thing nowadays!

Cheers,

Drew.

I heard she's alive and well, fully recovered from her resurrection ordeal, and has opened a little B&B in Skegness.

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This probably has been mentioned, but MetaDrive - does it use Meta Alloys for fuel? (Although it's my understanding it's been developed prior to them being discovered, but that does not really mean they did not know about MA at that time with all the conspiracy theory).

So what happened to the Meta Alloys and Tantalum, someone has asked.

Well, they could have been used to build a prototype of a Meta Drive... Please someone correct me if this was already discussed

Also, where can I listen to Teorge logs?




Just bumping this for visibility.

Probably constructed from MA & therefore capable of operating at higher physical extremes so more efficient giving longer range, rather than using MA for fuel.

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If they are audio logs then I will shoot myself (and never ever play with low volume again) In case they are not then they are here

Spoiler

http://i.imgur.com/BAxvOE5.png

It's those breadsticks in your ears, I said there were other ways to avoid Salomé's speeches!

 

[SpocksOddSocks]

I traded Sheffield for Miami. Tell me you wouldn't

Well I've been to Miami and liked it (but all that Vice, honestly! ), and I've been to Sheffield, but when I visited you couldn't see anything for the smoke from the blast furnaces.

Additionally, you do know what happens when somebody from Sheffield moves to Miami don't you?

Spoiler

The average IQ in both cities goes up

Ok, round these parts it's normally said about Leeds rather than Miami, but I think it still works...

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

Rebecca was still old 30 years ago, wasn't she?

She must have been well over hundred when she died. She remembers GalCop.

Seem to remember DrewW (I remember when we didn't have to spell out the different Drews) saying his oldest character was about 180, so assume that's Rebecca.

 

[Codger]

<<< Yes, that penguin took my little wolfy companion's eye out. Never again am i visiting that bar in Persephone.

Sound's good to me, a decal or a bobble head. [up] If Canonn can get there's, shouldn't be a problem for the biggest mystery in the game surely... maybe..

..Update..

Ok so i'm reading multiple destinations here that people are heading to, to find another clue or something to latch on to.

Can i just ask what it is we are looking for? just anything or..

I'm scouring planet surfaces in EAFOTS for cloning facilities. I have found some suspiciously similar rocks lying around -- getting close, maybe?

 

[Taranis Dekker]

I found a few undiscovered systems, but was surprised at the amount of surveying that had been done out there. Maybe if you go a way beyond Zurara, like 1000ly....
Just want to get the FRift Alpha base data package before going to sell my trip data at Base Camp. Wish FD would hurry up with my bug report, i need either the Alpha base data package that I scanned & didn't receive, or the data point timer resetting so I can go back and rescan it.

I'll be working from home tomorrow so if it's really really really quiet, I might possibly contemplate putting my Pc on as background, but only for the forums. Honest.

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

<<< Yes, that penguin took my little wolfy companion's eye out. Never again am i visiting that bar in Persephone.

Sound's good to me, a decal or a bobble head. [up] If Canonn can get there's, shouldn't be a problem for the biggest mystery in the game surely... maybe..

..Update..

Ok so i'm reading multiple destinations here that people are heading to, to find another clue or something to latch on to.

Can i just ask what it is we are looking for? just anything or..

Does anyone on this thread have any graphical expertise to draw up some ideas for an updated Rifter decal? Unfortunately my graphical skills are worse than useless (must have a third attempt with holome). I think it should show the Zurara as the symbol of the search endpoint, but I like the idea of also keeping the original squarerigger as a symbol of the long journey we had, going out into the unknown and searching new worlds. It could even have the motto "Remember Zurara" or "Rifters for truth!" Or... any other ideas? I think with Canonn getting one the implication is that FD have simplified the mechanism so it might be relatively easy to get if we have a good design.

 

[-Denali-]

And here we used up all the tinfoil.

Give the man a frying pan instead. Seems he needs something thicker anyways.

 

[eadghe]

Does anyone on this thread have any graphical expertise to draw up some ideas for an updated Rifter decal? Unfortunately my graphical skills are worse than useless (must have a third attempt with holome). I think it should show the Zurara as the symbol of the search endpoint, but I like the idea of also keeping the original squarerigger as a symbol of the long journey we had, going out into the unknown and searching new worlds. It could even have the motto "Remember Zurara" or "Rifters for truth!" Or... any other ideas? I think with Canonn getting one the implication is that FD have simplified the mechanism so it might be relatively easy to get if we have a good design.

Shouldn't the logo show a guy in a straight jacked wearing a tin foil head?