If the decal is tied to a monetary transaction, that's a different game for Frontier and myself.
THE FORMIDINE RIFT MYSTERY (Part 4)
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If the decal is tied to a monetary transaction, that's a different game for Frontier and myself.
Rare goods? Well Lavian Brandy is the Rifters' tipple so that would be appropriate, though some offshoot clique (I hear they call themselves the Circle of Independent Rifters) prefer Anlian gin. Some Rifters with a Canonn affiliation prefer tea and biscuits so perhaps that might be included. I think the crew of Zurara are beyond the help of medical supplies. But perhaps some fireworks to hold a really good wake....
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Good point Cmdr!
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I prefer Whiskey or Bast Snake Gin.
By the way, why isn't there a rum rare good - sistema solera preferable. A conspiracy?
First and foremost as people have suggested (i think) the best start for the Zurara would be a forensics/science team to investigate the whole ship, and go from there. Whether it be a CG or whether to leave it the hell alone. I know, they all had taken this Hexedit stuff and probably still trippin' even now.. i jokes. But we know what happened to the crew from the logs, not what they had stored on their computers or whatever within the ship, There is probably a plethora of information inside.
TINFOIL ON
What are the chances of a crew member still being alive? Frozen, perfectly preserved so the logs say.... chances are slim i know.
TINFOIL OFF
But a specialised team going in and turning the ship upside down (metaphorically speaking) may reveal more about the dynasty project... possibly revealing more clues etc etc.. you know what i'm talking about
If all goes well, then CG happen's to 'restore' her. But from my point of view, there isn't much to restore judging from the logs. Main reactor, life support and batteries? not much to turn into a CG in my opinion, and as you can see, the Zurara looks healthy for the amount of time she has been drifting... wouldn't make sense to transport millions of something to get a ship running again.
But obviously if a team went in to investigate then we will be waiting around for Galnet to keep us informed on their findings... i don't know i'm just rambling at this point.
Would be nice to see her flying though...
It is possible that some of the crew might have had the presence of the mind to get into escape pods so they'll be cryogenically preserved and may be revivable-a good source of intel about who hired them perhaps.
It was only the cargo handlers who were hexedited zombies and they killed themselves after causing the damage, leaving the rest of the crew to die.
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Pirates have grabbed all known supplies and closely guard the source (or should that be sauce?)
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Think we've picked apart and discussed the Teorge logs as far as possible. Don't know if anyone is actually following up the possible clue about manipulation of the markets, which should have left an evidence trail though Galnet is not easy to go through.
But the latter suggestion is worth following up and easy to do. Since the 30th there are clearly plenty of pilots here twiddling their thumbs and
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That being said, I'm sure CMDRs would even prefer an embroided patch with Drew's book
Afraid not on the ruins hypothesis. I've spent quite a bit of time at the ruins, but nary a hyperdiction.
For the record I also:
- have encountered UAs
- haven't done anything at the UAs beyond looking at them
- haven't encountered a UP
- haven't been to a barnacle
- have carried Meta-alloys (bought from Obsidian Orbital IIRC)
- have spent some time at the first flowership crash site
Fierce!
Sign me up. I want a tinfoil Sidewinder (it's what the hull is made from anyway ...)
All sidewinders are made of tinfoil. Just use it until the paint scratches off.
I'd rather not see the ship brought "home" as it were. It's sort of like the Titanic to me. We know where it is and could raise it back to the surface and ship it to some museum but that's a very un-kosher suggestion in nautical culture. I'd rather deliver scientist and engineers to study the who and what but not disturb it more than necessary to bring docking back online. Its far flung random position doesn't bother me personally. They should just make it like an Engineer base and not give it a faction that has BGS connections.
That's not how we roll. We're going to debate other things for a few weeks or months until Drew points out we missed a clue back in April. We'll then obsessively dissect an unrelated post he made, random Galnet articles and some astrological coincidence involving Simon and Garfunkel until Drew says "cough Teorge cough" .
So, no. Not yet but we'll get there.
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And when he does say 'Teorge', we'll pass it through a Caesar cipher, convert it to octal and parse it into coordinates to a system in EAFOTS sector.
Ok now I'm completely lost.
Generation ships, ok, brave souls who committed themselves to a journey they would never see the end of in the hope that their offspring would found a new human world. Idealist, explorers, pioneers. Some failed through strange occurrences that deserve to be investigated and their ships should remain as memorials to their bravery in trying such a task.
Ok, 100% fine with that.
A load of people sign up to a secret black ops mission. They don't know the purpose but like the big payday coming so ensure the mission is a success therefore helping their employer succeed in their plans. They are then rather unsurprisingly betrayed by their employer through known means leaving a derelict ship full of outdated known tech, sabotaged by people programmed under known means.
That should become a memorial to those brave souls who knowingly assisted somebody in a secret plan for a big payday? They are some form of heroes for not worrying about the consequences of the plan they were implementing because they expected a big payday? They should be remembered with reverence for putting personal gain above the truth and knowing what they were helping? And they should gain a memorial to their stupidity in trusting dark forces?
And we need scientists to study known old tech and no mystery in the cause of their death and how it happened?
Probably just me, but that one is passing me by. The only thing Zurara would be a memorial to is stupidity in trusting greed over good sense and a reminder that whoever set the trip up will do anything to succeed and have left their morals behind a long time ago.
I'll honour the dead on the generation ships, but not people who sign up for black ops missions for the money with that being more important to them than what they were enabling.
Generation ships, ok, brave souls who committed themselves to a journey they would never see the end of in the hope that their offspring would found a new human world. Idealist, explorers, pioneers. Some failed through strange occurrences that deserve to be investigated and their ships should remain as memorials to their bravery in trying such a task.
Ok, 100% fine with that.
A load of people sign up to a secret black ops mission. They don't know the purpose but like the big payday coming so ensure the mission is a success therefore helping their employer succeed in their plans. They are then rather unsurprisingly betrayed by their employer through known means leaving a derelict ship full of outdated known tech, sabotaged by people programmed under known means.
That should become a memorial to those brave souls who knowingly assisted somebody in a secret plan for a big payday? They are some form of heroes for not worrying about the consequences of the plan they were implementing because they expected a big payday? They should be remembered with reverence for putting personal gain above the truth and knowing what they were helping? And they should gain a memorial to their stupidity in trusting dark forces?
And we need scientists to study known old tech and no mystery in the cause of their death and how it happened?
Probably just me, but that one is passing me by. The only thing Zurara would be a memorial to is stupidity in trusting greed over good sense and a reminder that whoever set the trip up will do anything to succeed and have left their morals behind a long time ago.
I'll honour the dead on the generation ships, but not people who sign up for black ops missions for the money with that being more important to them than what they were enabling.
Masheikh Scytale
Banned
Did most of them even know it was a black ops mission ? They even didn't know for who they were really working. Like in the movie in my signature.
A memorial to remind people that dark forces are working against the interests of humanity. Reminding them that the truth can't be hidden.
We need scientists to recover data about what systems the ship has visited, where beacons where placed, what systems they explored, sensor data could reveal what they where looking for, hyperspace data could reveal if they encountered something unusual, the cargo manifest, data that might point to those who paid for the mega-ship and it's cargo. Maybe the chemicals used to hexedit part of the crew is very rare and can be traced to a specific manufacturer or even facility and therefore could reveal who bought/created it.
Even if the data reveals absolutely nothing new it's important to secure everything that could be evidence or of interest for later generations (historians) otherwise those responsible for the Dynasty expedition can dismiss it all and claim it never happened.
Consensus (supported by Drew's 'End of a chapter' comment) is that the logs are the answer, not another set of clues, which is why we're not pulling them to pieces.
I'd find it strange, from a storytelling perspective, if there was more to the messages than what we see on the surface - why would 'The Old Rebecca' hide cryptic messages in what is ostensibly a disclosure of all the information the previous clues had been pointing towards.
From the previous base logs we know they signed up to a long deep space mission for purposes unknown with good pay. If that's all they wanted to know to say yes I'll take your money they made their choice.
I don't feel any hatred towards them for doing this, but I certainly can't praise them for doing this.
There may have been a few thrill seekers. Others who saw it as a way of going beyond the frontier. Maybe even a few who wanted to find the truth. Others who let themselves believe it was all to some noble end to justify taking the cash.
But for most, they signed up for the pay.
I may have sympathy for them over the betrayal and their deaths, but I can't honour them for taking the devils shilling in the first place or being stupid enough to not realise that the best way to keep a secret is to kill those who know it. That's been going on since the pyramids were built so not exactly a new thing to happen.
Masheikh Scytale
Banned
The bank my wife works for is suspected by the press of funding some eastern dictator. I'll tell her to resign.
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That doesn't prove they knew it was a black ops mission, just that it was a long haul mission. They took a mission on good faith, and were betrayed for it by higher powers because they were deemed disposable. Sounds like they should be remembered to me.
Because X-Files
If those are your criteria for a memorial, then there are going to be an awful lot of memorials in this wonderful galaxy of ours.
Can we get a memorial for all the people CoR killed trying to prove the innocence of Salome? (How's that going, by the way?)
How about the Prism residents who got nuked by the Loren family so they could take over the system?
There are countless other instances of Imperial, Federation and Alliance actions which result in the deaths of innocents - best give them all a megaship too.
And as for the players actions - hunting trading ships in anarchy systems to get engineer materials anyone?
I just don't see that the Zurara deserves special treatment.