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That reminds me of that guy in the Hitchhiker's Guide - the immortal guy - what was his name again?
THE FORMIDINE RIFT MYSTERY (Part 4)
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That reminds me of that guy in the Hitchhiker's Guide - the immortal guy - what was his name again?
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Yeah that's him - if I remember correctly, he was bored so he decided to set himself the goal of insulting everyone in the entire universe. One by one. Face to face. In Alphabetical order.
Edit: I'm tempted to say he would've made a good forum member here
Edit: I'm tempted to say he would've made a good forum member here
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Yeah that's him - if I remember correctly, he was bored so he decided to set himself the goal of insulting everyone in the entire universe. One by one. Face to face. In Alphabetical order.
Edit: I'm tempted to say he would've made a good forum member here
We couldn't let him on here. It's be constant hexedit with Mods deleting every post he made... naming and shaming!
It'd be like last night all over again, every day. If last night happened. I'm not sure.
hehe not at any level that has any influence
Which, to my mind, is most levels of management. And the topmost levels who do have the real influence are so divorced from reality by the lower levels that nothing useful happens.
Edit: Don't get me started on politicians!
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That's not how I remember it...
Ah, but you're wearing tinfoil hat. Clearly it provides a certain level of shielding against the mind wiping!
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I'm gonna do it. I'm visiting every thread in every sub forum and pasting "I disagree" in the comment box. I should be Elite by noon.
Good plan!
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Good response!
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I disagree.
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That's my line [mad]
I disagree.
Oh go on... you know you want to. *nudge* [yesnod]
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Tinfoil time again:
I was out at Davy's Hope, and The company (Sirius)instead of rescuing the miners simply blew the base, and cut the losses. Nothing new there, life is cheap in the ED universe and the bottom line is everything.
But what if that's what happened to the Zuhura, The mission was a bust, they did not find 'El Dorado' and the projected profit was far below expectations. The cost of returning the Mega ship with nothing to show for the outlay would have destroyed the company (Stock losses etc.) So the company simply called back the disposable assets (Condas, saleable items), and sent the "kill everyone code" and collected on the insurance.. They then had a bookcooking/file shredding party hiding the loss, buried the remaining files in the basement, and just carried on as if the whole expedition never happened.
Enter Ran Corsen, he finds the files prior to the Sirius takeover and goes on the run, joins Salami and we know the rest.
I was out at Davy's Hope, and The company (Sirius)instead of rescuing the miners simply blew the base, and cut the losses. Nothing new there, life is cheap in the ED universe and the bottom line is everything.
But what if that's what happened to the Zuhura, The mission was a bust, they did not find 'El Dorado' and the projected profit was far below expectations. The cost of returning the Mega ship with nothing to show for the outlay would have destroyed the company (Stock losses etc.) So the company simply called back the disposable assets (Condas, saleable items), and sent the "kill everyone code" and collected on the insurance.. They then had a bookcooking/file shredding party hiding the loss, buried the remaining files in the basement, and just carried on as if the whole expedition never happened.
Enter Ran Corsen, he finds the files prior to the Sirius takeover and goes on the run, joins Salami and we know the rest.
Don't think they were after el Dorado. In fact quite the opposite. From what TOW said on the logs this was a contingency and the rest confirms finding and recording ELWs and dropping some terraforming packages. What they wanted was worlds suitable for colonies preferably with nothing interesting around them.
The bases are described as way points suggesting where they looked is further out.
As they had the data, needed to keep things quiet and no morals destroying 3 megaships and everybody on board was a choice to keep the secret. No other reason to scrap an asset worth billions particularly as they found ELWs
Whoever was behind it has money to burn and programmed crew to do it on board indicates this was always planned.
I don't doubt corporations were involved, the ships needed building, equipping and stocking before that went out and that would have been a big job, so meta drive likely involved in that
But whoever is behind it is a lot more savvy than corporate numpties who need another reorganisation to hide where the blame for bad management is.
Meta drive may have been a front for the job, then left to go under once that purpose was done, but I don't think they are those responsible for the plan.
The bases are described as way points suggesting where they looked is further out.
As they had the data, needed to keep things quiet and no morals destroying 3 megaships and everybody on board was a choice to keep the secret. No other reason to scrap an asset worth billions particularly as they found ELWs
Whoever was behind it has money to burn and programmed crew to do it on board indicates this was always planned.
I don't doubt corporations were involved, the ships needed building, equipping and stocking before that went out and that would have been a big job, so meta drive likely involved in that
But whoever is behind it is a lot more savvy than corporate numpties who need another reorganisation to hide where the blame for bad management is.
Meta drive may have been a front for the job, then left to go under once that purpose was done, but I don't think they are those responsible for the plan.
Thinking of this.
If it was just waypoints and the ships were meant to go further, then it seems unlogic to kill everyone so early. One could get more important data on the ongoing flight. If the ships were to scan another system on the way why not wait for that data and then kill everybody?
The logical consequence: the organization behind this must have found what it was looking for and then gave the "kill signal".
I wonder if one of the ships will point us to something. Must be right under the ships nose then. Or a hint in the log files of what the crew did before they went crazy.
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I have been working my outward along the RR line past the Zurara. So far have come across 4 ELW's....no beacons. Considering that was their stated mission, and ELW's are pretty rare, I would have expected to find one by now if they exist in game.
Fair comment, what if they found what they were looking for, and also found that they were encroaching on someone else's turf ie aliens, and then deliver the info, only to find that then all the systems are now permit locked, and they can't continue, again the mission is a bust, but now the whole coverup has the blessing of the big boys in the shadows, and the phrase "silence is golden" is appropriate. Meta Drive stops being the worst purchase in the galaxy and is suddenly a good bet. In steps Sirius and the whole thing is relegated to tinfoil in bars.
Sorry but my bet is still on the greed angle, it seems to be the prime motivator in the ED universe.
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Is there anything in the Zurara logs to suggest that they were on their way back?
I thought that they'd got to the end of the line and then everyone got wiped out - so any beacons would be on the Bubble side of Zurara.
Yeah, here's the pertinent part of the logs:
We dropped a series of beacons out here, all targeted
around Earth-like or terraformable worlds We prepped
some of the terraform candidates with seeders and
biofilters. No one can figure out why it was necessary. but
that was the mission. Just as we were turning back...
boom, those cargo-handlers went nuts.
So you might be right. Their current position may be as far out as they ever got.
They were about to turn back???
Damn that's my theory out the window...again.
Back to mopping the toilets again *sighs*
Given the slow FSDs they were using, I wouldn't expect to find beacons further than a couple of hundred LY beyond where Zurara ended up - and that's probably being generous.
I'd also be looking along a line from the EAFOTS bases to Zurara, rather than the RR line - although it probably doesn't make a significant distance.
That said, I don't actually believe there's anything in-game to find