The Formidine Rift - Part 2

[Dielos]

This might be known, but just noticed something strange.

If you mouse over planets in system map, they all play an initial tone, like a piano key kept pressed. You can basically play a piano piece by mousing over different planets.

I'm right now orbiting an ammonia world, and just noticed that this world is completely silent. It does not give any tone. Is this a known behavior of ammonia worlds?

 

[CMDR DancingLemur]

This might be known, but just noticed something strange.

If you mouse over planets in system map, they all play an initial tone, like a piano key kept pressed. You can basically play a piano piece by mousing over different planets.

I'm right now orbiting an ammonia world, and just noticed that this world is completely silent. It does not give any tone. Is this a known behavior of ammonia worlds?

AW has the same sound as the background star field in system map.

Crazy idea. She stated, that she doesn't want to be late. Maybe it has something to do with positions or distances of mentioned planets (Mars, Titan, Mars, Earth). We have time and position, maybe some diagram will emerge from this.

 

[Genar-Hofoen]

This might be known, but just noticed something strange.

If you mouse over planets in system map, they all play an initial tone, like a piano key kept pressed. You can basically play a piano piece by mousing over different planets.

I'm right now orbiting an ammonia world, and just noticed that this world is completely silent. It does not give any tone. Is this a known behavior of ammonia worlds?

This is known behaviour of the System Map - you can use the System Map to determine the planet type - it's been like that since the game came into being.

This is unrelated to the Formidine stuff.

Read this link : https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=144782

 

[lorrad]

If you figure out that math (triangulation from those objects 1300 years from now from unspecified points in orbit around them) be sure to write a paper on it, should be worth a Masters degree.

I cranked up Stellarium the first time Cassiopeae was mentioned until someone posted an image of Cass from within the game from Sol. I never mentioned it because the difference between calculated ie Stellarium and actual or observed becomes significant error pretty quickly especially with local planets and moons, less with stars but over 1000 years?

If you want to test that out pick a date 100 or even 20 years in the past and compare stellarium with observed from ephemera for the date. No matter how many decimal points it's always an approximation. No matter how small the deviation is,,, given time and distance.

Might not matter if FD used the same program and method.

I dunno, how many ifs does it take to walk off a cliff?

Good luck, ya never know,,

 

[clavain]

I cranked up Stellarium the first time Cassiopeae was mentioned until someone posted an image of Cass from within the game from Sol. I never mentioned it because the difference between calculated ie Stellarium and actual or observed becomes significant error pretty quickly especially with local planets and moons, less with stars but over 1000 years?

If you want to test that out pick a date 100 or even 20 years in the past and compare stellarium with observed from ephemera for the date. No matter how many decimal points it's always an approximation. No matter how small the deviation is,,, given time and distance.

Might not matter if FD used the same program and method.

I dunno, how many ifs does it take to walk off a cliff?

Good luck, ya never know,,

That is why I was trying to confirm what someone said earlier, i.e. for game purposes, astronomical times for 20 March 3301 = those for 20 March 2015 (which is what I have been using for all my searches above).

 

[lorrad]

That is why I was trying to confirm what someone said earlier, i.e. for game purposes, astronomical times for 20 March 3301 = those for 20 March 2015 (which is what I have been using for all my searches above).

But then going from Stellarium to in game,,,we know the time on earth doesn't match or did they fix that,,,,

How about checking if the planetary positions from Stellarium to in game are in at least the right part of the sky as seen from Earth in game?

 

[kalniel]

So, having reviewed the first post again (kudos to Acheron for doing such a great job of collation), I'm wondering about this comment by (the other) Drew:

"The Engineers expansion may make it easier, but it's been possible since launch back in 2014."

Previously, I'd been assuming (like most of you, I suspect) that this is going to turn out to relate to an improvement to the FSD drive.
However, having checked the original context, whilst at first glance it seems to refer to fitting out a ship, I think it actually relates to the comment:

"Whether it is found or not depends entirely on who goes looking"

Now the 2.1 update is apparently going to change the way that space POIs are discoverable - via scanning or the Nav Beacon, if I remember correctly - which means a persistent object in, for example, the Persephone system, is going to show up immediately, rather than having to fly around and investigate. Consequently, I'll be flying around all the 'interesting' systems as soon as the 2.1 update drops.

Presumably revealing POIs by scanning Nav Beacon will apply to those without the expansion too.

 

[simulacrae]

But then going from Stellarium to in game,,,we know the time on earth doesn't match or did they fix that,,,,

How about checking if the planetary positions from Stellarium to in game are in at least the right part of the sky as seen from Earth in game?

ya i kinda remember having problems before matching stellar events up with things happening in the elite universe ... I suspect that if the astronomy hint is relevant ...it is referring to astronomical events of march 20 2015 in the london or cambridge sky ....

 

[clavain]

ya i kinda remember having problems before matching stellar events up with things happening in the elite universe ... I suspect that if the astronomy hint is relevant ...it is referring to astronomical events of march 20 2015 in the london or cambridge sky ....

Which is what I have been going with for everything I have done above. The 3301 times and date do not seem to generate anything useful as a hint in Stellarium, whereas the 20 March 2015 time for the vernal equinox does - perhaps too many!

 

[simulacrae]

Which is what I have been going with for everything I have done above. The 3301 times and date do not seem to generate anything useful as a hint in Stellarium, whereas the 20 March 2015 time for the vernal equinox does - perhaps too many!

awesome - ya im still downloading the additional data for stellarium ... liking this idea ... keeping fingers crossed

 

[lorrad]

Which is what I have been going with for everything I have done above. The 3301 times and date do not seem to generate anything useful as a hint in Stellarium, whereas the 20 March 2015 time for the vernal equinox does - perhaps too many!

I seem to recall, could be wrong, Mbrooks saying 2015 is 3301 astromonywise in game.

But what I'm wondering is do the planetary positions in game match up with stellarium right now for example, never mind some when else. You could tell from screenshots from sol near earth targeting all the outer planets and see which constellations they are in, right now. If that's off or worse wildly off it wouldn't bode well for anything relying on them.

Guess what I'm saying is check for things right now as the control case to see if it's at least a rabbit hole before chasing the bunny.

 

[clavain]

I seem to recall, could be wrong, Mbrooks saying 2015 is 3301 astromonywise in game.

But what I'm wondering is do the planetary positions in game match up with stellarium right now for example, never mind some when else. You could tell from screenshots from sol near earth targeting all the outer planets and see which constellations they are in, right now. If that's off or worse wildly off it wouldn't bode well for anything relying on them.

Guess what I'm saying is check for things right now as the control case to see if it's at least a rabbit hole before chasing the bunny.

Not in game at the moment, but will try this next time I login.

 

[simulacrae]

I seem to recall, could be wrong, Mbrooks saying 2015 is 3301 astromonywise in game.

But what I'm wondering is do the planetary positions in game match up with stellarium right now for example, never mind some when else. You could tell from screenshots from sol near earth targeting all the outer planets and see which constellations they are in, right now. If that's off or worse wildly off it wouldn't bode well for anything relying on them.

Guess what I'm saying is check for things right now as the control case to see if it's at least a rabbit hole before chasing the bunny.

RL and Elite dont match up ... there was a forum thread about it at the time of the eclipse .... but the question is do they point to anything in RL that can be used in game .... also wasnt just an eclipse was also vernal equinox so something like zenith point might matter

 

[Legacy_LuckyLuke]

LuckyLuke - that wolf asterism you posted a while ago, is that out in the rift? If so, I'm wondering if Drew has been feeding us "landmarks" on the route to *IT*. The full stops and commas looky-likey, then the wolf...

If not, or if this has been explored and debunked then never mind...

It's the 2MASS star cluster just 1000ly to the left of the Heart & Soul nebulas (if looking from Sol)

I just posted that as a bit of tongue in cheek tinfoilery... though it does look surprisingly wolf-like.

 

[Legacy_LuckyLuke]

I seem to recall, could be wrong, Mbrooks saying 2015 is 3301 astromonywise in game.

Yep I read it in an FAQ or AMA or some such a while ago... can't find the reference now.

I got a bit confused with the timeline yesterday - I was thinking Kahina visited Sol this year. I forgot it was over a year ago!

All this timey wimey stuff is making my brain melt... as you were

Stellarium is definitely a cool app though. Will have a play again later.

 

[Jaiotu]

Yep I read it in an FAQ or AMA or some such a while ago... can't find the reference now.

I got a bit confused with the timeline yesterday - I was thinking Kahina visited Sol this year. I forgot it was over a year ago!

All this timey wimey stuff is making my brain melt... as you were

Stellarium is definitely a cool app though. Will have a play again later.

Even without finding the exact post for the 2015/3301 thing we can deduce that to be the case. Last February's 'day that should not be' one-day-only exploration CG is evidence that we are using the 2016 calendar not the 3302 one. 3302 is not a leap year on our calendar yet it is in Elite: Dangerous.

If there is any veracity to the time of year being important for Salomé's visit to Earth then we have to find it with the 2015 calendar or else we'd be stuck trying to figure out exactly when the Elite galaxy's calendar diverged from our own to the point where the day of the week is totally wrong and the leap years are in the wrong year. Safe to say that we simply use our current Calendar and position of the stars in 2016.

 

[Bieltan]

It's the 2MASS star cluster just 1000ly to the left of the Heart & Soul nebulas (if looking from Sol)

I just posted that as a bit of tongue in cheek tinfoilery... though it does look surprisingly wolf-like.

Aaaah ok then. Gonna set out this weekend, got my 'conda and the funds to outfit it, plus rebuy ×3 :3

 

[Legacy_LuckyLuke]

Aaaah ok then. Gonna set out this weekend, got my 'conda and the funds to outfit it, plus rebuy ×3 :3

Mr Obsidian Ant was somewhat taken by it too a while ago: http://youtu.be/yCrDG9CwipE

I did start to map some of the systems in it but after a while felt the urge to push on towards the rift

Definitely worth a visit, if only from an exploration POV

 

[crushdepth]

LuckyLuke - that wolf asterism you posted a while ago, is that out in the rift? If so, I'm wondering if Drew has been feeding us "landmarks" on the route to *IT*. The full stops and commas looky-likey, then the wolf...

If not, or if this has been explored and debunked then never mind...

I stopped there yesterday to scan all the type Os and black holes. Every last rock had already been scanned by others, although I didn't bother with other star types, but I think that cluster has been pretty well surveyed.

 

[Legacy_LuckyLuke]

I stopped there yesterday to scan all the type Os and black holes. Every last rock had already been scanned by others, although I didn't bother with other star types, but I think that cluster has been pretty well surveyed.

Indeed

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So I set it up for the vernal equinox on March 20th at Cambridge (for some reason it keeps picking up my system's time zone though, UTC-3, hence I have it set time to 19:45 instead of 22:45 for the equinox).

Had a play just now - if you open the configuration window, then go to plug-ins, find the time-zone plug-in and set UTC+0 timezone in there.