The Formidine Rift - Part 2

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Seeing your location, we must be quite close to each other. Hope to be able to go online in an hour or two...

Or maybe not... I think I'm farther out into the arm...

I accepted your friend request so maybe I'll see ya out there :) I think from here, I may try heading back toward the line.
 
Maybe coordinates and not date???
the hint was the last line is the location....and those numbers came from right on commander
Maybe this is not morse code...maybe the dots,commas and dashes represent numbers
 
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The possibilities are limited though. For the month (if it actually points to a date) there obviously can only be the 1, leaves 13 or 26 for the day. The remaining number must be the word counter (or what else).

But noooo... drop that. Drew didn't rep me. :p

Maybe coordinates and not date???
the hint was the last line is the location....and those numbers came from right on commander
Maybe this is not morse code...maybe the dots,commas and dashes represent numbers


Those numbers were used to solve a cipher. Long time ago... Now its rather pointless...

As for Good luck, and ... right on, Commander. What if its not coordinates? But something like an anagram? Maybe one code turned to another?
 
Or maybe a local galnet article on that station of note.

Reporting from the Leesti system, nothing unusual in the local news, nor in the unidentified signal source. I also went to the Prism system a few days ago, there is an old news about the birth of the Loren's legion (the major faction of the system), but nothing cryptic in it.
 
Reporting from the Leesti system, nothing unusual in the local news, nor in the unidentified signal source. I also went to the Prism system a few days ago, there is an old news about the birth of the Loren's legion (the major faction of the system), but nothing cryptic in it.

Was worth a shot. Too bad those local news items aren't available for offline (out of game) viewing/searching like Galnet.
 
Whilst it is not impossible, I think there being anything in that phrase is highly unlikely.

"Right on commander" is from the original Elite and is well known to people who played it. I would rather think this is just Drew using an Eliteism to people who's posts he appreciates.

Most likely nothing of importance then. I found it a bit fishy how the old woman pauses for a brief moment and then goes "right on, Commander", so thought it wouldn't hurt to put it out there.


CORRECTION: Command(e)r totals 86. "e" has a value of 5, not 4.

Just sayin'...

Aye.
 
As far as rep goes, Drew did rep me for my big Salome' post, so I think there is something to that as well... Since the whole thing with 1,26,13 was revealed to be a test of our cipher skills, maybe they are connected.

So 1, 26, 13 was the ROT13 cipher used to decode EB, P... Which turned it into RO, C. That's the first letters in "Right on, Commander," both a favorite phrase of Drew's and possibly pointing to that phrase at the end of Rebecca's holofac message in Reclamation, to highlight its importance to the problem. So from that last sentence we get " , ... , . " from the punctuation. Maybe we need to open it up a bit to include more punctuation? I don't know what to make of the question marks toward the beginning of her message, or the seemingly long series of commas in the middle, but if we just include the period from the penultimate sentence we get " . , ... , . "

So if we apply the same transformation to that we get 1,3,1. Since there are only 3 letters allowed in this new ROT cipher, the ciphered text must only consist of three letters. We already have "EB, P" and "RO, C" so if we apply the 1,3,1 cipher to them we get "BP, E" and "OC, R" but I don't know where else we can go from there.


The other thing I was thinking about is that maybe Drew hid a similar type of code into Lady Kahina's name. Applying the original ROT13 cipher to her full name brings back "XNUVAN GVWNAV YBERA." Total gibberish unless there is something else hidden in there. Just for funsies, XGY are the first letters of each transformed name. 1,3,1 gives us GYX from that.

Does anyone see anything here that I'm missing?
 
No dice - sorry. Tried all stations in one and the other two only had 1 station in them. Nothing obvious, just little visited systems with bounty reports and some local news on trade expansion or conflicts.

Of course as they both have ...ahem... it may be a system with ahem in middle of the name - no idea how to search for that though. Is there a wildcard character?
Thanks for checking! It was a long shot but any shot is better than nothing. I had a look this evening at the two I could see the system view for and there did not seem to be anything unusual in terms of names (stations, planets or factions) that stood out as being a clue, either.
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I still feel that there are clues that need to be found inside the bubble before going looking for what might be a single system or group of systems hidden away in about a billion cubic light years' worth of Outer Arm.
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(not sure if there is a wildcard character in the Galmap search; I might test a * next time I'm on but otherwise I wouldn't know what to try.)
 
Anyone ever find Hassan's home world? I tried to look yesterday but only found sirius corprate systems... Drew did say it was 400 LY out in the weldriuga sector. I wonder if it doesn't have a population...
 
Anyone ever find Hassan's home world? I tried to look yesterday but only found sirius corprate systems... Drew did say it was 400 LY out in the weldriuga sector. I wonder if it doesn't have a population...

By the description in the book, I'd guess it would be an agriculture economy, and should have an earth like or terraformed planet. As soon as I'm back from the rift, I'll start searching for it myself too.
 
As far as rep goes, Drew did rep me for my big Salome' post, so I think there is something to that as well... Since the whole thing with 1,26,13 was revealed to be a test of our cipher skills, maybe they are connected.

So 1, 26, 13 was the ROT13 cipher used to decode EB, P... Which turned it into RO, C. That's the first letters in "Right on, Commander," both a favorite phrase of Drew's and possibly pointing to that phrase at the end of Rebecca's holofac message in Reclamation, to highlight its importance to the problem. So from that last sentence we get " , ... , . " from the punctuation. Maybe we need to open it up a bit to include more punctuation? I don't know what to make of the question marks toward the beginning of her message, or the seemingly long series of commas in the middle, but if we just include the period from the penultimate sentence we get " . , ... , . "

So if we apply the same transformation to that we get 1,3,1. Since there are only 3 letters allowed in this new ROT cipher, the ciphered text must only consist of three letters. We already have "EB, P" and "RO, C" so if we apply the 1,3,1 cipher to them we get "BP, E" and "OC, R" but I don't know where else we can go from there.


The other thing I was thinking about is that maybe Drew hid a similar type of code into Lady Kahina's name. Applying the original ROT13 cipher to her full name brings back "XNUVAN GVWNAV YBERA." Total gibberish unless there is something else hidden in there. Just for funsies, XGY are the first letters of each transformed name. 1,3,1 gives us GYX from that.

Does anyone see anything here that I'm missing?

Here is my little contribution.
if we focus on the last sentence only, i think 1,3,1 is not the good interpretation. A point ends a sentence, I think it makes no sense to use punctuation in the previous sentence only in part.
But, if we consider the end of the message includes the two last sentence, then we need to use all the punctuation from them.
So i rejected my 6,3,1 theory for the moment and have doubt about 0,3,1.

"EB, P" can be "Encoded Binary, P". No idea for the "P". ASCII is encoded binary.

Sorry if it's unclear, but english is not my language. :eek:
 
Anybody with a good ear? Maybe we are able to detect something by noises in the GalMap or in-ship. After all, FD has always done an amazing job with sound and the system we are looking for might emit something different...
 
Anybody with a good ear? Maybe we are able to detect something by noises in the GalMap or in-ship. After all, FD has always done an amazing job with sound and the system we are looking for might emit something different...

This is a good point! I often turn the volume up while in the Galmap and just mouse over all the stars in my immediate search area. I will make a mental note to do it more frequently while out there.
 
Honestly the sounds in Galmap seem fairly random to me, unlike the System map which is pretty reliable for giving certain sounds depending on the composition of a planet and such. I'll still keep my ear out in Galmap though.
 
All the transmissions end in Right On, Commander. and his sig once ended in EB, P.
I think all he was trying to convey here was that we should consider ROT13 for deciphering... something.
Not knowing what to decipher, I tried a bunch of things (entire paragraphs from the books, galnet articles, etc.) and only ever came up with jibberish.
Just thought I'd share some observations in case someone else is on the same line of thought.

- Rot13 will definitely be required somewhere
- Once you rot13 something, then rot13 it again, it goes back to normal ('cause there's 13x2 chars in the alphabet)
- Some words rot13 into other words. (complete?) list attached.

It wouldn't hurt to cast your eyes over the list of words that rot13 into other words, in case there's a clue hidden in plain sight in a galnet that we're missing.
Any of the below words appearing in a galnet (especially several of them in sequence) would be consideration for a clue:

Words that ROT13 into other words:


anil
anna
balk
bare
barf
bean
been
chat
chef
crag
crax
crea
crex
cuba
ebbs
envy
errs
fant
flap
flob
frag
gent
genu
ghee
glee
gnar
gnat
gurl
gurr
iran
iraq
june
jura
juve
naan
nana
navy
nene
neon
nine
noon
nurl
oner
ones
onyx
perk
pern
puny
purr
purs
rail
rate
rear
reef
roof
sent
    
snag
sync
tang
than
that
thaw
thee
they
tuna
tung
vend
viva
whar
when
whir
brava
cabba
cheer
clerk
fanes
franz
freen
freir
fubby
furry
graal
green
penny
perry
rager
renin
senam
serve
snarf
tenny
terra
cheery
cravat
greeny
orphan
pening
abjurer
nowhere

edited to strip out nonsense worse and <4 char words

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Oh, another tip/tool someone asked about earlier and I can't remember if anyone responded:

You _can_ search all of galnet for particular words. Just use google's `site` filter.

eg: try googling for site:community.elitedangerous.com kahina
 
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The point of the ROT13 exercise may just have been to get us thinking about searching for hidden meanings. Future clues could easily be in some other cipher or encoding system, who knows. But anything suspicious...turn it in for forensic examination!
 
Any of the below words appearing in a galnet (especially several of them in sequence) would be consideration for a clue:

Hm, why are both 'anna' and 'naan' in your list, but 'nana' is in but its rot13 counterpart 'anan' is not?
Doesn't look like a complete list to me.

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Anyone ever find Hassan's home world? I tried to look yesterday but only found sirius corprate systems... Drew did say it was 400 LY out in the weldriuga sector. I wonder if it doesn't have a population...

If it's someone's home world, shouldn't it at least have a population of 1?

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As far as rep goes, Drew did rep me for my big Salome' post, so I think there is something to that as well... Since the whole thing with 1,26,13 was revealed to be a test of our cipher skills, maybe they are connected.

Rep from Drew generally means we're on the right track. When I suggested that .,.. ......,. ... could mean 1,26,13 Drew repped my message as well.
Can you give us a link to your 'big Salomé post' that was repped?
 
Has anyone tried to check system names in the Rift sectors who contain that letters? RO C and EB P?.

I'm away from the computer now, but this could be an address, not a code.

Also, 1-26-13 could lead to AY J.
 
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