The Formidine Rift - Part 2

[Pazmino]

Are we overthinking the puzzle of the Rift? Obviously. Once we've cracked the Rift open and revealed its secrets most of our theories will seem silly. Until then... every theory... no matter how far fetched... is worth investigating. Think it has something to do with Alice in Wonderland? Please chase down that rabbit hole! Convinced the answer lies in Greek mythology? Investigate it and see where it leads. Believe that the answer actually lies on the opposite side of the Galaxy heading toward the galactic core? Chase that path!

We can work together trying to prove or disprove each other's theories.

That said... I'd like to introduce my own tin foil hat for the evening:

A lot of talk about the "Heart Nebula" has really got me thinking and, while I'm still out in the center of the galaxy hunting neutron stars in order to afford my rift-ready starship, I can still contribute to the conversation through researching the subject.

Several internet sources state that the Heart Nebula's color comes from an open cluster of stars called Melotte 15. What I find really interesting though is that these sources also state that, about a million years ago, this cluster contained a microquasar that has since been expelled from the cluster.

Where did this microquasar go? Can we find it in game now? I'm very, very curious about this and, while it may have absolutely nothing to do with the puzzle before us, I'm still interested in pursuing this particular lead.

Well, 1^st things 1^st - Tin foil hat on:
IMHO, the rift is not at/in the H&S Nebula. These nebulas are located at the Perseus arm and doesn't look like a hard place to reach. While a very interesting region in the sky, I have my doubts.
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I think its either more towards 140 deg between the outer arm and the Perseus arm, out 15kly. There is a massive gap.
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If we look for an island or isolated place the spot in the outer arm, a ~140 deg would do.
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Another option is to face the core, than watch your six and one ends up with a view along 180 deg. There is a nice gap in the outer arm. Also at 120 deg, which might match with R-R line.
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To the point on the Greek mythology, I searched for tales around "rift, gap, crack, ..., sky, heaven" and the interweb came up with Khaos.

Greek χάος means "emptiness, vast void, chasm, abyss", from the verb χαίνω, "gape, be wide open, etc.", from Proto-Indo-European *ǵ^{[SIZE=2]h[/SIZE]}eh[SUB]2[/SUB]n,^{[URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_(cosmogony)#cite_note-2"][SIZE=2][2][/SIZE][/URL]} cognate to Old English geanian, "to gape", whence English yawn.^{[URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_(cosmogony)#cite_note-OnEtD-3"][SIZE=2][3][/SIZE][/URL]} It may also mean space, the expanse of air, and the nether abyss, infinite darkness.^{[URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_(cosmogony)#cite_note-chaos-4"][SIZE=2][4][/SIZE][/URL]} (Wikipedia)
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No location is linked to this dude
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Tin foil hat off.

galaxy.org
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ps: maybe its this ... and we shouldn't look?

Spoiler

[video=youtube;M7YKWmPV-8c]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7YKWmPV-8c[/video]

 

[Four Muffins]

The intention is to give the community aspect wider recognition. I don't think most players are aware there's anything going on that they *could* be involved in. No additional clues outside of the game, book, galnet though - don't worry. You're all going to have to figure it out.

Cheers,

Drew.

I had no idea until I saw this thread, but I'll head out. 2.1 is too close to for it just now though. =]

 

[woodhouse]

Is there any connection between Earnest Borgnine and Seven of Nine?

 

[Jaiotu]

IMHO, the rift is not at/in the H&S Nebula. These nebulas are located at the Perseus arm and doesn't look like a hard place to reach. While a very interesting region in the sky, I have my doubts.

I happen to agree that the Heart and Soul nebula are NOT the Rift... but I kind of think of them as the "gateway" to the Formidine Rift. The Riedquat/Reorte line lead almost perfectly to these two Nebulae... So for me the question is: once we've reach Heart & Soul... which way do we go? Do we continue to follow the R/R line? Do we face the Core and then "check our six"?

The ejected "microquasar" is honestly interesting enough on its own, without the Rift, to make me want to locate.

 

[KG_Jedi]

So... I heard there were a CG recently, and now we can (we can, right?) buy specialized cargo racks, which don't allow UA to damage our ships while carrying it. I wonder, what if we had to carry some UA to Formidine Rift?

Drew said finding that special place was possible since launch, and i think UAs been in game since launch too.
You could carry 1 UA to Formidine Rift, with a bunch of AMFUs, it'd be hard, but possible (people here even brought UA to Sag A, 25000 Ly distance!).

Since UA's work as kinda portable discovery scanners, giving out closest body's name in morse code, and they also align themselves with Merope...

...But what if Merope isn't only such place? If UA's align themselves with closest barnacle system? And if there is another such system in Formidine Rift? And only way of knowing which is UA? Since they work little like compass...

I regret not taking a few with myself.

 

[Becks]

So... I heard there were a CG recently, and now we can (we can, right?) buy specialized cargo racks, which don't allow UA to damage our ships while carrying it. I wonder, what if we had to carry some UA to Formidine Rift?

Drew said finding that special place was possible since launch, and i think UAs been in game since launch too.
You could carry 1 UA to Formidine Rift, with a bunch of AMFUs, it'd be hard, but possible (people here even brought UA to Sag A, 25000 Ly distance!).

Since UA's work as kinda portable discovery scanners, giving out closest body's name in morse code, and they also align themselves with Merope...

...But what if Merope isn't only such place? If UA's align themselves with closest barnacle system? And if there is another such system in Formidine Rift? And only way of knowing which is UA? Since they work little like compass...

I regret not taking a few with myself.

Pretty good idea imo.

 

[Rudolphus]

we can do this with a ship chain of cmdrs

So... I heard there were a CG recently, and now we can (we can, right?) buy specialized cargo racks, which don't allow UA to damage our ships while carrying it. I wonder, what if we had to carry some UA to Formidine Rift?

Drew said finding that special place was possible since launch, and i think UAs been in game since launch too.
You could carry 1 UA to Formidine Rift, with a bunch of AMFUs, it'd be hard, but possible (people here even brought UA to Sag A, 25000 Ly distance!).

Since UA's work as kinda portable discovery scanners, giving out closest body's name in morse code, and they also align themselves with Merope...

...But what if Merope isn't only such place? If UA's align themselves with closest barnacle system? And if there is another such system in Formidine Rift? And only way of knowing which is UA? Since they work little like compass...

I regret not taking a few with myself.

 

[Legacy_LuckyLuke]

The intention is to give the community aspect wider recognition. I don't think most players are aware there's anything going on that they *could* be involved in. No additional clues outside of the game, book, galnet though - don't worry. You're all going to have to figure it out.

Cheers,

Drew.

Well, if that isn't throwing down the gauntlet, I don't know what else is Bring it on rifters

I'd like to reiterate what a couple of others have said on here - no idea, and no amount of tinfoil, is too much or too silly......

There is a puzzle here, and we don't have all the pieces (yet). But it will come. We need to examine every clue and every lead. Some we'll discard, and some we'll hang onto. And slowly the pieces will reveal themselves, and we'll finally know the 'mystery of the rift'... and remember, we don't even know what 'it' is yet... a system? a wreckage? a sentient race, or a bigger mystery to solve?

I've been a little out of it this past week... will have to get foiled up and back on track

I've been listening to the Elite Reclamation audiobook all week and just got to chapter 10. A couple of things jumped out at me about the way the old lady tells her story to Salomé. At one point she says "I lost..." and then stops. What did she lose?

Also, when she says "there was some serious s**t out there, stuff you wouldn’t believe", and finishes "Ah, it’ll all come back to bite them one day, it’s all there in the Imperial databanks somewhere - and they thought the Thargoids were trouble" - it's entirely possible that the thargoid reference is referring to what's in the rift.

 

[KG_Jedi]

Also, few more strange things:

I was observing some interesting systems by writing sector's first words. For example, if there are many system starting with Core Sys Asfsdgf and etc, i'd write Core Sys and it shows "main" stars of this sector.

There is sector near Rift, called DRYAEA PHLAI. If you input this 2 words, you will see system DRYAEA PHLAI EG-Y G0.
Strange this is that it's shows as system with G9 and M4 star, but it looks BLUE!

Coinsidence?... Or there is something else in system which makes such glow...?

 

[Jaiotu]

We could really use a forward-deployed base of operations to make long-term exploration of the Rift viable. The creation of Obsidian Orbital in the Maia system gave a huge boost for those researching the unknown artifacts. I made a suggestion a while back about trying to convince Frontier to start a CG where we would deliver hydrogen fuel to Jaques' station in Gliese 1269 with the intention of getting Jaque to move his traveling starport a little closer to the Rift... maybe even as far as NGC 7822. Someplace for us Rifters to call home... at least temporarily.

Frontier re-introduced Jaques to the Elite galaxy with the premise that the station would wander around the galaxy traveling to a new location every Friday. Since then the cybernetic bartender has pretty much sat motionless at Gliese 1269.

I floated this idea up to Frontier last month via email... and haven't heard back. Once again... if there is anyone following this thread who happens to have Frontier's ear... could you please bring this idea to their attention? If we could get Jaques, or even a new construction, built within even a few thousand light-years of the Rift it would make a huge difference in our ability to maintain a constant presence in the Rift until we've solved the mystery.

 

[Legacy_LuckyLuke]

Also, when she says "there was some serious s**t out there, stuff you wouldn’t believe", and finishes "Ah, it’ll all come back to bite them one day, it’s all there in the Imperial databanks somewhere - and they thought the Thargoids were trouble" - it's entirely possible that the thargoid reference is referring to what's in the rift.

Damnit I made a typo and can't re-edit my post: I meant to say, it's entirely possible that the thargoid reference is not referring to what's in the rift. (But very much connected to the mystery of course...)

Drew's words around 'some basic assumptions have been made about the characters' keeps echoing in my head.

 

[Jaiotu]

Damnit I made a typo and can't re-edit my post: I meant to say, it's entirely possible that the thargoid reference is not referring to what's in the rift. (But very much connected to the mystery of course...)

Drew's words around 'some basic assumptions have been made about the characters' keeps echoing in my head.

I personally take the "and they thought the Thargoids were trouble" to be the woman referencing herself. The fact that she's recovered at least some of what she knew and made the effort to pass that knowledge on to someone who'll pursue it is what will "come back to bite them one day" and will make all kinds of trouble for the powers-that-be.

 

[Legacy_LuckyLuke]

I personally take the "and they thought the Thargoids were trouble" to be the woman referencing herself. The fact that she's recovered at least some of what she knew and made the effort to pass that knowledge on to someone who'll pursue it is what will "come back to bite them one day" and will make all kinds of trouble for the powers-that-be.

She also might have been referring to the imperials...

 

[piy]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/126947920829349888/165622340707680257/therift2.jpg

Can't rep you more but have a bucket of respect
Can I use one of these for my tag if I can figure out how?

I'm currently on the other side of the rift. I was going to try and line up the bubble with the heart & soul. Think Gypsy12 is trying the same thing from the other side. My apologies if I've gotten the commander name wrong.

Then I saw KG jedi post about DRYAEA PHLAI EG-Y G0. I'm only 3k ly away. If your lurking jedi do you mind if I head over and take a look? I don't know where you are so don't want to steal your thunder if you are close .

Pluss...add me as a frend to we can see each other if you are out here piy o7

 

[piy]

Scratch that. Can't head that way. I'm following up on something else with leut. If nobody can get there to look I'll head that way first before I head to the bubble when engineer's go's to beta.

 

[KG_Jedi]

Can't rep you more but have a bucket of respect
Can I use one of these for my tag if I can figure out how?

I'm currently on the other side of the rift. I was going to try and line up the bubble with the heart & soul. Think Gypsy12 is trying the same thing from the other side. My apologies if I've gotten the commander name wrong.

Then I saw KG jedi post about DRYAEA PHLAI EG-Y G0. I'm only 3k ly away. If your lurking jedi do you mind if I head over and take a look? I don't know where you are so don't want to steal your thunder if you are close .

Pluss...add me as a frend to we can see each other if you are out here piy o7

Sure thing, go on

 

[CMDR Corlas]

If it's "all in the Imperial databanks somewhere", maybe we've jumped the gun, and should look for more clues in populated Imperial space first.

Also, that line, combined with the "it'll come back to bite them" seems to imply the secret of the Rift is something that humanity, or Imperials in particular, had a hand in shaping. If not directly creating.

 

[piy]

If it's "all in the Imperial databanks somewhere", maybe we've jumped the gun, and should look for more clues in populated Imperial space first.

Also, that line, combined with the "it'll come back to bite them" seems to imply the secret of the Rift is something that humanity, or Imperials in particular, had a hand in shaping. If not directly creating.

Drew's words drive my brain to hurt. We know he's good at words. He gives clues in such a way that read over and over could be anything. But at the same time could be straight to the point . Pluss like has been mentioned before....we don't know how the game actually works. Trying to find what we are looking for could be dependent on ship/cargo or any other specific things....or we could stumble across it. With us not knowing even what we are looking for we don't even know that if we did find it...would we understand what we have found?.....the only thing we do have is the extent at which the cannon have gone to disipher the u.a.'s is incredible...and if we are dealing with that form of mystery, which we are, then I feel stumbling across it isn't going to work.

On the other hand....we just don't know .....I need a codine

 

[Gypsy12]

Hi guys...

In the MYOIDEE UY-S D3-4 system... Darned N star knocked 2% off my hull. Anyhow...there is a single landable approx. 160k from the central star... and guess what?

Its flashing! On the way there now to check it out. Its unmapped.

 

[Xeres]

If it's "all in the Imperial databanks somewhere", maybe we've jumped the gun, and should look for more clues in populated Imperial space first.

Also, that line, combined with the "it'll come back to bite them" seems to imply the secret of the Rift is something that humanity, or Imperials in particular, had a hand in shaping. If not directly creating.

This is why the INRA topic keeps coming up. Lore base group that did some bad things in the past to defeat the Thargoids. If something was going to "come back to bite them", it could be an organization like this....but there are so few details about where they could be stationed.... http://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/INRA