The Formidine Rift - Part 2

[Jaiotu]

when you travel from Sol to Heart & Soul Nebula towards the bubble nebula then to the formidine bridge it is doable

At this point ... any theory is worth investigating. Brute force exploration of the Rift *might* find something ... I'm willing to sacrifice some of my time following a path that an original Cowell & MgRath AD3100 Mk III Cobra could have taken to the Rift. A Waste of time? No. Its not about the blah, blah, blah Destination. Its about the blah, blah, blah journey... or something. Seriously... this service droid needs to quit handing me G&Ts. I'm blazing my own fraking slow-boat-to-china trail through the rift and I'm not gonna let all the Thargoids in Raxxla stop me.

I obviously need to get some sleep so... Fly safe commanders.

 

[lorrad]

I would rep this, only I can't. So consider it repped anyway. Shrewd observation.

Cheers,

Drew.

So she's Hitler putting on a Gandhi act.
Interesting clarification.

 

[Kitty]

The old woman mentioned about dark systems. I think they now refer to dark unscoopable stars. I you check the galmap on the vicinity of the rift (filter to display unscoopable star types only), you'll find they only exist on a layer below the galactic plane. Maybe the system you wish to find is also on this plane (or even down below until you find the whole galaxy "just hanging there" above you).

Just a thought... Dark systems may also refer to systems with a single sun and no other bodies - perhaps a dwarf. Not much light bouncing around them and no light coming from ice planets, which shine quite brightly. Or of course, those with black holes.

 

[snadge]

I thought dark systems were like rogue planets that do not orbit suns.

 

[Sikeksis]

Hello Jaiotu,

I have followed the R/R line forensically. I tracked my progress on the line by checking my alignment every 100ly or less. I would line up Reorte and Reidquat like a compass line and adjust my course if required to align as close as possible. It was amazing to me that I could really see how Rho Cassiopeia was like a beacon lighting up the way ahead of me. It truly is a lighthouse for us traveling this route. Anyways, there were travelers here before me following this route and I followed it to the very end, until the stars thinned out all the way to the gap where my progress was halted for lack of stars. I had a decision to make about which direction I should take following along the gap and staying in the 'shoals', where the stars are thin. I have decided to head toward Barnard's loop. I am in a Keelback with 25.5ly range, almost 28ly if I empty my tanks.

 

[CMDR EfilOne]

I thought dark systems were like rogue planets that do not orbit suns.

Food for thoughts but .... don't we have that ingame already ..? :

Spoiler

 

[Kitty]

Food for thoughts but .... don't we have that ingame already ..? :

Spoiler

http://i.imgur.com/wFpaKbQ.png

Class Y Dwarfs are still Suns, otherwise they would be classed as Gas Giants

I believe in another thread somewhere, it was stated that rogue planets don't exist in game yet. But I stand to be corrected.

 

[CMDR EfilOne]

Class Y Dwarfs are still Suns, otherwise they would be classed as Gas Giants

I believe in another thread somewhere, it was stated that rogue planets don't exist in game yet. But I stand to be corrected.

Exactly this ! That's why a little voice inside me yells that more love should be given to unscoopable systems

 

[Muetdhiver]

Brown dwarves are "failed" stars, i.e. burned their lithium, but never got into the p-p mode.
IIRC after that some heat is produced from gravitational energy, i.e. sinking of denser material toward the core,
but they still cool down (very slowly)

 

[Leut]

On the question of what we wil find.

It should be more dangerous than a thargoid invasion. In that case i hope its way more than a rouge correolis station.Way more than that.
I suspect we will find atleast one system with multiple...things (f)lying around. Maybe as soon as we get there we get aa nice interdiction. You know... how to scare someone
In short, the moment we get there it already inspires fear. Fear.. As in formidine

Kinda like the U.S.S Voyager entering Borg space when i will say "OSHOOT" and being in aw

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

Tin-Foil Time! I went through all of Drew's posts (ever) and compiled the interesting ones here for reference. Make of them what you will, I'll be reading them and posting some conclusions separately.

Great work Tall Bird!
Just for completeness could you add the urls to the originals? In science it is important to be able to check back to the original sources of supporting information!
thx Jorki

 

[CMDR DancingLemur]

Ok, I have the page with old woman talking to Salome right in front of me, so let's summarize:

"Edge of the galactic arm".... could be both of the arms, our galaxy has many of those. No reason to think only about the Outer arm or the Perseus one. Also, no reason to think only about the outer edge of the Outer arm (horrible wording I know). Every arm has two edges you know . No big G there either.

"Take a line from Reorte to Riedquat to the edge of the the arm ... keep going." - no change of direction mentioned here. In other words - continue in the same direction.

"Right on, Commander"...repeated many times (I'm wondering why? maybe an obvious hint), could mean...right on the line.

From epilogue:
"There are no stars for dozens of light years and the dark systems haven't been mapped, so take your time, watch your six." Could mean that you should check that you are still on the R-R line plotted course, or get back on it as soon as possible from the systems with scoopable stars.

Maybe it's that simple.

And the last thing, very speculative though. The last newsletter ended with Right On, Commander, so I wondered why. Is there some message hidden in the text? Maybe the picture with the black hole presented twice? Are we looking for a system with a black hole? Or is it the "Right on, Commander" presented again the obvious clue.

 

[Crassus]

After Arjin clarified his thoughts about where to search, I would like to support his idea. I'm still sceptical, that Erimus' Formidine Rift is the same as Drews - especially when Drew only admits, that Erimus' rift marks the broader range of his'. I closely followed the RR-line in an Asp with a jump range between 27 and 29 ly, which is definitely not enough to cross the formidine gap (which is my name for the rift ). I'm now at the edge of the formidine bridge (thanks to Erimus for finding and charting that!) and I will go further on to reach the edge of the new outer arm and keep looking - but for what?

Some thoughts:

• Why did the old lady go there? If it's really Rebecca Weston, we have a decent pilot with a traders heart. My guess is, there were rumours about valuable things out there which were worth to search for. If we add the sentence from "And here the wheel" (at least if we assume, it's about the same area), then mankind must have settled there. You wouldn't find "countless headstones stretching beyond the curvature of the horizon" on "lost worlds, sterilised clean by the Thargoids and erased from humanity's maps", if there had only been fleets fighting in space.
• So my guess is, that there are ringed planets with pristine ressources, earthlike or terraformable worlds or atmosphere-less worlds at places where you would expect earthlike or terraformables, and near them strong signal sources with debris fields full of wrecks. And so that we don't stumble upon them just by jumping into the system, I expect them to be in systems, whose habitable zones start at a distance larger than 1000 ls.
• We know from the first elite novel, that the passengers of colony ships tend to do strange things: it is written about Teorge, that it was "settled by two colony ships that had proceeded to clone a select few of the crew and colonists, killing the others". If colony ships or colonists happened to encounter Thargoids - far away from the bubble and support by federal or imperial troups, they might have created their own weapons or AIs to defend themselves, even though AIs where banned long ago.
• Coming back to the old lady: I guess she knows how to cope with space ships and enemies, that fight with guns and shields like humans or thargoids. What she would see as much more dangerous, would be an enemy you cannot fight with conventional weapons. I don't know why, but each time I read that remark about "far worse than the thargoids" I have to think of a novel by Stanislav Lem, The Invincible, where an AI evolved into a swarm intelligence and was able to defeat an other AI, that used more conventional weaponry. And I think of the warning "watch your six": dark clouds of tiny nano bots gnawing at your shields on the back of your ship

Best regards from the notorious longtime lurker
Crassus

[Edited] You always find typos ...

 

[Han_Zen]

So she's Hitler putting on a Gandhi act.
Interesting clarification.

You think so?
I get more like a medival Japan vibe. Shogun, samurais, art of war and all that.

"If your enemy is secure at all points, be prepared for him. If he is in superior strength, evade him. If your opponent is temperamental, seek to irritate him. Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant. If he is taking his ease, give him no rest. If his forces are united, separate them. If sovereign and subject are in accord, put division between them. Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected ."

Sun Tzu.

 

[Gypsy12]

Just to let you guys know...

Good Planet for FSD Mats: PHRIO PHOE OU-E C12-1 A 1

Cheers.

Would be nice to find some Polonium though... Sigh...
Onwards!

 

[Scinaya]

Btw, someone mentioned the dyson structure and Crassus mentioned swarm of little bots or droids. Well, I thought for it a moment and realized these'd perhaps appear similar to asteroid clusters or belts in the scanner. In case someone has been skipping these, just take a moment and re-evaluate that decision. Other things that could look like asteroid belts could be the destructed fleets, Crassus also mentioned.

 

[Alkibiades]

Just to let you guys know...

Good Planet for FSD Mats: PHRIO PHOE OU-E C12-1 A 1

Cheers.

Would be nice to find some Polonium though... Sigh...
Onwards!

im in the bubble grinding jumponium. its realy frustrating... how do you search for it. i feel like i do something wrong by just driving around in the srv for hours.




this sucks




btw today i was on heilelang 3 and did not find any very rare jumponium. so no npc in space waiting for me.

 

[yeahreally]

If we add the sentence from "And here the wheel" (at least if we assume, it's about the same area), then mankind must have settled there. You wouldn't find "countless headstones stretching beyond the curvature of the horizon" on "lost worlds, sterilised clean by the Thargoids and erased from humanity's maps", if there had only been fleets fighting in space.

I would be careful about using that quote for anything. The published version in "And Here the Wheel" omits the first two sentences, so it doesn't mention the rift at all. The Formidine Rift isn't mentioned by name in that book at all.

 

[CMDR Paraszt]

Ok, I have the page with old woman talking to Salome right in front of me, so let's summarize:

"Edge of the galactic arm".... could be both of the arms, our galaxy has many of those. No reason to think only about the Outer arm or the Perseus one. Also, no reason to think only about the outer edge of the Outer arm (horrible wording I know). Every arm has two edges you know . No big G there either.

"Take a line from Reorte to Riedquat to the edge of the the arm ... keep going." - no change of direction mentioned here. In other words - continue in the same direction.

"Right on, Commander"...repeated many times (I'm wondering why? maybe an obvious hint), could mean...right on the line.

From epilogue:
"There are no stars for dozens of light years and the dark systems haven't been mapped, so take your time, watch your six." Could mean that you should check that you are still on the R-R line plotted course, or get back on it as soon as possible from the systems with scoopable stars.

Maybe it's that simple.

And the last thing, very speculative though. The last newsletter ended with Right On, Commander, so I wondered why. Is there some message hidden in the text? Maybe the picture with the black hole presented twice? Are we looking for a system with a black hole? Or is it the "Right on, Commander" presented again the obvious clue.

Well. All wars between Thargoids and humans were started by humans watch your six might as well mean to be aware of our own kind. Either look out for people who don't want us to find the truth or simply beware of your trigger happy tipically human behaviour.

Also I don't know why the UA connection was ditched.
They're spawned in large noumbers
They damage our tech but they point ROUGHLY to the location of the cure.

They communicate with us meaning whoever built them knows our language

Who finds the thing in the rift depends on who goes looking.

My guess would be the UA was supposed to provide a very basic method of declearing war or peace on the level of each individual.
Also (Requires) seems a whole lot different than (Requires xxx premit).
And yes I'm halfway through to finding out, although I might not have enough time to complete the trip before the end of the week

Right on lads!

 

[Zieman]

im in the bubble grinding jumponium. its realy frustrating... how do you search for it. i feel like i do something wrong by just driving around in the srv for hours.

High Metal Content and Metal-Rich planets are good, especially those orbiting young stars (less than 1000 MY), also Rocky bodies are ok.

I usually go for heavily cratered areas on any given planet, good chance of finding Metallic Meteorites (best for very rares) near big crater edges. Mesosiderites & 'metallic' Outcrops give common & rare mats quite well too.

Simplified helper image for interpreting the Wave Scanner:

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See attached pdf for some good places for prospecting in/near the bubble.