The Formidine Rift - Part 2

[Arjin]

"Who finds the thing in the rift depends on who goes looking"... That makes me think it's selective somehow.

What was the UA connection before it was "ditched"? Is there a possibility that you have to be carrying one in order to find this "thing"? Once the modules that let you carry UAs without damage come out, maybe you should consider going out there with one in your hold to experiment with. You know, drop it in various places and see if it points somewhere other than Merope when you reach a certain region of space or something.

Couple of things,

Person who goes looking, the mystery is not gated or locked to anything. Anyone can find it, and anyone can find it even with pure blind luck.

UA's were not in the game at launch so also not needed to find the It.

 

[CMDR Paraszt]

"Who finds the thing in the rift depends on who goes looking"... That makes me think it's selective somehow.

What was the UA connection before it was "ditched"? Is there a possibility that you have to be carrying one in order to find this "thing"? Once the modules that let you carry UAs without damage come out, maybe you should consider going out there with one in your hold to experiment with. You know, drop it in various places and see if it points somewhere other than Merope when you reach a certain region of space or something.

Yeah I think it's somehow selective. I don't know how but i want to make an attempt.

We don't need any new modules. I'm 10k from the Bovomit area and i didn't use 5% of my total repair capacity. It's not simply doable but it's also entertaining

I don't expect it will ever turn in another direction it was meant to point at the cure. I guess and hope it was meant to be in the vicinity of a certain locked system to provide entry somehow.
My basic assuption is that we have to prove being peaceful and what could be a better proof than NOT killing the thing that wants to end you? Yes I assume its Thargoid tech and they won't come to us after trying twice and finding only genocide. They are more cautious.

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Couple of things,

Person who goes looking, the mystery is not gated or locked to anything. Anyone can find it, and anyone can find it even with pure blind luck.

UA's were not in the game at launch so also not needed to find the It.

Are you sure they weren't in game at start? I know they were first spotted on convoys but I can't remember reading any statement about when the UAs were put in game

 

[Han_Zen]

Yeah I think it's somehow selective. I don't know how but i want to make an attempt.

We don't need any new modules. I'm 10k from the Bovomit area and i didn't use 5% of my total repair capacity. It's not simply doable but it's also entertaining

I don't expect it will ever turn in another direction it was meant to point at the cure. I guess and hope it was meant to be in the vicinity of a certain locked system to provide entry somehow.
My basic assuption is that we have to prove being peaceful and what could be a better proof than NOT killing the thing that wants to end you? Yes I assume its Thargoid tech and they won't come to us after trying twice and finding only genocide. They are more cautious.

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Are you sure they weren't in game at start? I know they were first spotted on convoys but I can't remember reading any statement about when the UAs were put in game

UAs were put in game with the release of Wings (1.2).

 

[Alkibiades]

High Metal Content and Metal-Rich planets are good, especially those orbiting young stars (less than 1000 MY), also Rocky bodies are ok.

I usually go for heavily cratered areas on any given planet, good chance of finding Metallic Meteorites (best for very rares) near big crater edges. Mesosiderites & 'metallic' Outcrops give common & rare mats quite well too.

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See attached pdf for some good places for prospecting in/near the bubble.

so you basically just encircle a huge crater and along that way theres everything you need?

 

[clavain]

I would be careful about using that quote for anything. The published version in "And Here the Wheel" omits the first two sentences, so it doesn't mention the rift at all. The Formidine Rift isn't mentioned by name in that book at all.

Checking with the author for clarification, will let you know if I hear anything if he does not beam in and post here.

 

[Zieman]

so you basically just encircle a huge crater and along that way theres everything you need?

Sometimes it works out like that, yes.

Sometimes I get bored & venture into the crater, drive around & maybe over the top of the center mound. Sometimes I drive between two or more close-by craters.

Always looking for Metallic Meteorites, picking Mesosiderites & (metallic) Outcrops as they come by. Occasionally I need to pick up materials for SRV refuel & SRV gun re-arm.

 

[clavain]

You think so?
I get more like a medival Japan vibe. Shogun, samurais, art of war and all that.

"If your enemy is secure at all points, be prepared for him. If he is in superior strength, evade him. If your opponent is temperamental, seek to irritate him. Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant. If he is taking his ease, give him no rest. If his forces are united, separate them. If sovereign and subject are in accord, put division between them. Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected ."

Sun Tzu.

This - although not sure if the Samurai read Sun Tzu - presumably the original author(s) of the Code of Bushido may have. Imperial codes of honour (when followed) have many similarities to Bushido.

 

[lorrad]

You think so?
I get more like a medival Japan vibe. Shogun, samurais, art of war and all that.

"If your enemy is secure at all points, be prepared for him. If he is in superior strength, evade him. If your opponent is temperamental, seek to irritate him. Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant. If he is taking his ease, give him no rest. If his forces are united, separate them. If sovereign and subject are in accord, put division between them. Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected ."

Sun Tzu.

The problem with Sun Tzu and generally all aphorisms is it difficult to know which one to apply a prior and easy to know post hoc.

Ah but is he the enemy? By her political declaration the entire galactic system is the enemy. Haven't you already bought your "Make the Galaxy Great Again!" cap? Betray us Petraus is incidental to her political steam roller, but as part of the previous regime she will no doubt have a wry smirk as she rolls over him.

The lady ain't stable as she show with her dramatic flashes of anger. Imperial child rearing is a sociopath factory and a perfect garden for a psychopath to bloom. It's hard to hammer those reactions out of anyone. If you got your hand slapped as a child for reaching across the table, swak "Ask Don't Grab!", that'll stick with you the rest of your life. No matter how self-aware you are you'll feel it when some one else does it. In fact the more violent and and pathological the creatures underneath the more refined and ritualized the social behavior becomes, Imperials are refined in the extreme. So for her it would take more than shading herself under a tree or 40 days in a desert, maybe a few long walks alone say for a couple 100's of 1000 kylies might help chill the b out a bit.

I almost don't wanna mention this but there's a difference in the character style from the book to C.o.R. with the multiple character and plot [wink,wink] reunion at the Tinsel Town cemetery drops her from being a adult character to a juvenile one with that "we've been watching over you all the time because you're so special because you're you, Harry". Though if she follows form once she's done she'll hack them to pieces too, she doesn't like being manipulated.

Hassan keep the colt 45 ready, you may need it.

Still I wear the cap.

 

[CMDR Paraszt]

UAs were put in game with the release of Wings (1.2).

For a short time I felt like I understood something, thanks for pushing me back to space madness
I'll continue my journey like this anyway so I'll leave behind a UA that saw the world...

Another quick question.
We have a forum here with lots of cooperative people workong together on solving a mytery.
Why can't Erimus speak about his discovery? I mean if anyone else find the same thing will he/she be forced into not speaking about it?
It's weird.
It's a huge mystery yet everyone has to solve it individually?

 

[lorrad]

Couple of things,

Person who goes looking, the mystery is not gated or locked to anything. Anyone can find it, and anyone can find it even with pure blind luck.

UA's were not in the game at launch so also not needed to find the It.

Are you certain UA's weren't in the game at launch? A few could have been out across the Formidine, and didn't Erimus stumble across one?

 

[Arjin]

Are you certain UA's weren't in the game at launch? A few could have been out across the Formidine, and didn't Erimus stumble across one?

Only if he found one after 1.2 Wings update.

 

[clavain]

Are you certain UA's weren't in the game at launch? A few could have been out across the Formidine, and didn't Erimus stumble across one?

Erimus used artistic license I believe to mention them in his videos. I am pretty sure he never found one until they became common in signal sources, much later, and I'm not even sure if he bothered by then. They have only been in the game since 1.2

AFAIK no one has ever found one outside of the Bubble (the original very rare UA convoys) or the current UA shell around Merope and its earlier locations.

 

[CMDR Paraszt]

But he did find something in the rift,right?
Or is my english so bad I completely misunderstood it all?

 

[CMDR DancingLemur]

Hm, thinking about, what will the Engineers update bring, that will make the search easier. I have a strong feeling, that it will be the option of bookmarking the systems. Thus it will be a lot easier to stick to the R-R line. It is possible now, but quite hard not to deviate from the course.

 

[clavain]

But he did find something in the rift,right?
Or is my english so bad I completely misunderstood it all?

If you are talking about Erimus, he found the way across the Rift and the Bovomit Badlands and named other similar POI. That's it (which in itself was a huge accomplishment). His videos had additional fictional stuff in them to spice them up.

 

[Han_Zen]

This - although not sure if the Samurai read Sun Tzu - presumably the original author(s) of the Code of Bushido may have. Imperial codes of honour (when followed) have many similarities to Bushido.

You are probably right. I don't know what Kahina has studied. I just get pictures from old Kurosawa movies in my head when I read about her.

 

[CMDR Paraszt]

If you are talking about Erimus, he found the way across the Rift and the Bovomit Badlands and named other similar POI. That's it (which in itself was a huge accomplishment). His videos had additional fictional stuff in them to spice them up.

Thank you for clearing that up for me.
It seems I'm truly being dragged away by madness...

 

[Jaiotu]

Hello Jaiotu,

I have followed the R/R line forensically. I tracked my progress on the line by checking my alignment every 100ly or less. I would line up Reorte and Reidquat like a compass line and adjust my course if required to align as close as possible. It was amazing to me that I could really see how Rho Cassiopeia was like a beacon lighting up the way ahead of me. It truly is a lighthouse for us traveling this route. Anyways, there were travelers here before me following this route and I followed it to the very end, until the stars thinned out all the way to the gap where my progress was halted for lack of stars. I had a decision to make about which direction I should take following along the gap and staying in the 'shoals', where the stars are thin. I have decided to head toward Barnard's loop. I am in a Keelback with 25.5ly range, almost 28ly if I empty my tanks.

That's not exactly what I mean by forensically. I'm not talking about simply following the R/R line. I'm talking about forcing my jump range to a mere 7 light-years and THEN following the line. I grew up in the Northwestern United States near where the old Oregon Trail can still be seen. I've driven along roads that parallel the Oregon Trail. You can drive sections of the trail that took the original settlers days in mere hours. I've also ridden in a horse-drawn stagecoach on a section of the Oregon Trail itself. Two totally different experiences.

When I say "forensically" I'm talking about the stagecoach approach. If we assume the old lady could only travel 7 light-years per jump and that her fuel tank could only carry 7 light-years of fuel then it should be possible to retrace her exact path to a point where she could go no farther ... at which point we then know the exact location of the beginning of the Formidine Rift. Yes I am aware that this is seriously overthinking the problem and yes I am aware that this could be done on the galaxy map alone without having to actually take the journey.

 

[Sikeksis]

I followed the R/R line as far as it would go to the Gap that exists between the Orion-Sag arm and the Perseus Arm. You can't travel in a straight line once you reach that point if you want to reach the Formadine Rift which is on the other side of the Perseus Arm. You end up at a dead end following the R/R line, where you have to decide to head "north" or "south" along this gap to reach the Perseus Arm and then the Rift. You can't just go straight across to the Perseus Arm, because there are no stars for you to do so, and if your doing 7ly range then you will end up unable to even get to that gap before the stars are so thinned out you can't proceed further along the R/R line.

 

[clavain]

You are probably right. I don't know what Kahina has studied. I just get pictures from old Kurosawa movies in my head when I read about her.

I think it all comes from Confucian thought at the end of the day in any case.