The Formidine Rift - Part 2

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You've got to use 'duralium foil' not just 'duralium' or you only get one coordinate, not two. We can assume the third point shares the common plane as Reorte and Reidquat.

Drew also said 'lore-wise' which could be interpreted as 'counter-clockwise' which means a reverse application of ROT13. Convert the letters to their ASCII numerical values and, there you have it.

... Yeah. I got nothing.

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Hi folks,

A bit off topic(ish), but the galactic mapping project is now at a stage where we're considering sub-dividing the known parent regions into small sub regions. A bit like how American states are sub-divided into counties.

We think it would help add distinct character to the maps if the sub-regions had a certain 'theme' to them. For example, in the case of the Formidine Rift region, Drew has sent in 4 sub-regional names and has gone for Latin variations for 'fear'... for something like the Silentium Region, we could add sub-regions with Latin names for 'silence'. and so on....

Here's an example of the Formidine Rift with Drew's suggested sub-regional names added.

http://i.imgur.com/i9R17gj.jpg

If any Rifters out to the far southeast (around Vig's Beacon) could supply a route toward the southern tip of Heisnebergs Crossing, and 'northeast' from there - across to the Perseus arm, this will help define the southeast borders of the Rift. The opposite border will probably be defined as the where the Formidine Bridge crosses the Rift.

I like the idea, but according to my personal taste, 1) giving identity to sub regions with x variations of the same word seems somewhat contradictory ; 2) Latin is so classical and overused, I'd much more prefer browsing through other languages.

As for routes, I'd happily help ; but the 'Rift' is not defined yet.
 
[snip] there are those of us (or possibly only me), who think that the trigger for discovery lies back in the Bubble ('...depends on who goes looking'). [snip]

There appears to be a mythological thread running through the clues[snip]

Anybody have any better ideas?

I don't have any better ideas, but I have been tinfoiling (sorry, Duralium-foiling!) a lot over the last week and have some ideas (just not 'better' ones).

1. I have one possible lead related to Titan which I will follow up when 2.1 drops

2. Reflection on Kahina/Salome's travels in Sol: "I musn't be late" was repeated in subsequent Galnet articles - It bothered me - I started down the Alice in Wonderland track
(a) I'm thinking probably just a literary nod to "going to wonderland" == "going to rift and finding 'it'" (and/or the mad-hatter's tea party) - quite possible since: who would be queen of hearts, who's the rabbit/hare -

3. This led to other spins on Alice in Wonderland, which somehow brought me to an adaptation where "Looking Glass" (space) Station was central to neue-Alice's story
Action - There are a number of 'Glass' stations/outposts I plan to visit over coming day(s)

4. Back on the mythological thread, somehow I got to Mesopotamian mythology/astrology leading to muslim astronomy: the Dragon (Draconis constellation - there was a recent post on this forum about Salome's possible astronomical observation looking into 'empty space' [Boothis??] which is roughly the direction of the rift) - Draconis is viewed in this part of the sky
This led to:
Action - Typhon (to be visited) - Typhon is often depicted as "the Dragon" in variants of greek mythology

5. The Typhon story reads very similar to 'Christian' God vs the Devil (the Dragon) ... "and down the great dragon was hurled, yada yada" - In Revelation, Michael the archangel casts the dragon into the Abyss (for us: The Rift??). The Greek Zeus vs Typhon version has Zeus defeating Typhon and burying him (depending on the version) under Etna, Vesuvius, Tartarus (again! - this place also mentioned in the bible) or in some ...
across the Issus (Issus == The Rift?) Arima / Arimoi
Action - Cronus (in Elysia system) to visit, two systems with Arima in their name to visit.

6. <duralium-foil>If this Zeus vs Typhon is the parallel behind what "it" is (possibly battle site of good vs evil) and Arima/Arimoi are in scope: "Island of Monkeys", I hope our final destination isn't Monkey Head Nebula - that's a fair way from the rift, rofl</foil>
 
2. Reflection on Kahina/Salome's travels in Sol: "I musn't be late" was repeated in subsequent Galnet articles - It bothered me - I started down the Alice in Wonderland track
(a) I'm thinking probably just a literary nod to "going to wonderland" == "going to rift and finding 'it'" (and/or the mad-hatter's tea party) - quite possible since: who would be queen of hearts, who's the rabbit/hare -

3. This led to other spins on Alice in Wonderland, which somehow brought me to an adaptation where "Looking Glass" (space) Station was central to neue-Alice's story
Action - There are a number of 'Glass' stations/outposts I plan to visit over coming day(s)

Yeah, I tried to make the Alice connection too, but couldn't tie it to anything else in the Rift theory dataset.
I also looked along the lines of 'late' meaning 'deceased', but I couldn't make that stick either.

5. The Typhon story reads very similar to 'Christian' God vs the Devil (the Dragon) ... "and down the great dragon was hurled, yada yada" - In Revelation, Michael the archangel casts the dragon into the Abyss (for us: The Rift??). The Greek Zeus vs Typhon version has Zeus defeating Typhon and burying him (depending on the version) under Etna, Vesuvius, Tartarus (again! - this place also mentioned in the bible) or in some ...
across the Issus (Issus == The Rift?) Arima / Arimoi
Action - Cronus (in Elysia system) to visit, two systems with Arima in their name to visit.
Elysia being, of course, another part of the Underworld...

My concern in all of this is that there is something what we need to do, in order to make the Rift 'IT' discoverable - and I've got absolutely NO idea what that could be.
 
Where did he say that, if I might ask? That would be new to me!


It took a couple days for me but just when I started to think I was going truly mad I found it...

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I'd spell it correctly too. ;) RaxxLa.

Don't expect to solve this one any time soon, I suspect it's going to be bigger than the Thargoids.

Cheers,

Drew.​





Although I'm a bit unsure if it'll be copied here all right. The comment can be found in the "Raxxla" thread, 2015 Dec. 17

I understand it doesn't have too much connection to our topic here, but it's still a fact that might be worth recording somewhere for future reference. It'd be painful to reread all his comments a couple months / years from now :D
I try to follow the thread closely and from time to time the Raxxla thing comes up. If the coming first page could have this tiny bit of info MAYBE some noise would be reduced. Along with the "fact" RaxxLa has little to do with the Rift...

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Yeah, I tried to make the Alice connection too, but couldn't tie it to anything else in the Rift theory dataset.
I also looked along the lines of 'late' meaning 'deceased', but I couldn't make that stick either.


Elysia being, of course, another part of the Underworld...

My concern in all of this is that there is something what we need to do, in order to make the Rift 'IT' discoverable - and I've got absolutely NO idea what that could be.


She also said she doesn't like being late when she was about to meet up with Beagle Point guys...More fuel in that rabbit hole.
Maybe she once thought she got pregnant 'cause her period was late, and it was so traumatic she can't break free of the experience...
 
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It took a couple days for me but just when I started to think I was going truly mad I found it...

I think you may have missed some context there. The "L" isn't meant to imply that the L is capitalized (and therefore significant) it's meant to show which letter the person Drew was referring to had gotten wrong. Here's the original message with quoting retained: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=212616&p=3276366&viewfull=1#post3276366

Holdstock (and earlier under the pseudonym Eisler) always spelled it "Raxxla" with a lower case 'l'.
 
Unsurprisingly, none of this appears to have achieved anything.

Anybody have any better ideas?

Take some to Julian Market, orbiting Boeotia in Aganippe.

I found a link of sorts there when looked at the anagram (Cadmean) of the Prism worlds.

I also wondered if there were any places named after the Muses (Aganippides). Couldn't see any obvious. Note to self: check Helicon later.

I tried feeding Aganippe Rush via plasm cannon to a Pleiades Barnacle, to see if there was a reaction. Couldn't get one. Wanted to find a Barnacle in Electra (also Cadmus' mother) to try it, but couldn't see one there and settled for experiments at Merope 5C.

Visited the Diadem system (Alpha Comae Berenices) in case there was a reference there that followed on from Kahina's tiara / crown. I saw 7 planets though.

I've played with other Latin poets for formidine / formidio references, but I'm not seeing anything solid. Might study Ovid a bit as I noticed he has a star system also (maybe take some Gerasian Gueuze there - I hope it tastes sour like a true gueuze should, Drew).

i thought about the ablative tense or declension and realised the language root is the same as declination. Declination is an astronomy term, so I'm still wondering about the Reorte-Riedquat and then vectoring down through the vicinity of Arcturus route.

da net said:
angular distance, esp in degrees, of a star, planet, etc, from the celestial equator measured north (positive) or south (negative) along the great circle passing through the celestial poles and the body. Symbol: δ Compare: right ascension
 
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I think you may have missed some context there. The "L" isn't meant to imply that the L is capitalized (and therefore significant) it's meant to show which letter the person Drew was referring to had gotten wrong. Here's the original message with quoting retained: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=212616&p=3276366&viewfull=1#post3276366

Holdstock (and earlier under the pseudonym Eisler) always spelled it "Raxxla" with a lower case 'l'.


Well, you sir are absolutely goddamn right about that! I'm afraid I was too eager on that thought to actually pay attention to it's preceedings!
Thank you for pointing it out, have a rep!

And in this case, sorry for the flame.
 
Hi folks,

A bit off topic(ish), but the galactic mapping project is now at a stage where we're considering sub-dividing the known parent regions into small sub regions. A bit like how American states are sub-divided into counties.

We think it would help add distinct character to the maps if the sub-regions had a certain 'theme' to them. For example, in the case of the Formidine Rift region, Drew has sent in 4 sub-regional names and has gone for Latin variations for 'fear'... for something like the Silentium Region, we could add sub-regions with Latin names for 'silence'. and so on....

Here's an example of the Formidine Rift with Drew's suggested sub-regional names added.

http://i.imgur.com/i9R17gj.jpg

If any Rifters out to the far southeast (around Vig's Beacon) could supply a route toward the southern tip of Heisnebergs Crossing, and 'northeast' from there - across to the Perseus arm, this will help define the southeast borders of the Rift. The opposite border will probably be defined as the where the Formidine Bridge crosses the Rift.

BTW Vigs AA-A E1 is about 12 kylies not 14.

I flew up to Heisenberg from OOB AEB, crossed Heisenberg and then flew back to the bubble for repairs. From OOB AEB to Heisenberg there was nothing really notable except having to adjust the route due to a moderate increase in unscoopable brown dwarfs around Spongaea. Some routing problems on the crossing and then clear sailing all the way back to the bubble. Nothing special, no need for a route map saying "Argh, me matey,,,this way lies the I-90/ (M1)"

It's fine slapping theme sub-region labels on, they're like saying The Cotswolds or Appalachia but then have to drill down to which actual in game sectors belong to them. I seem them as the county level names like my route went through counties Oob Aeb, Virph, Ooscs Airg, Dryio Eaec, Spongaea, and Hypoae Aescs to get to crossing. One could create a map overlay with just those in 4 pt., but that'd be a lot of real work on sunny days.

Rifting is like Ponce de Leon's searching Florida for the Fountain of Youth and finding aligators and malaria; Florida or Raxxla the land of newly weds and nearly deads. Reality never lives up to the myth.

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Yeah, I tried to make the Alice connection too, but couldn't tie it to anything else in the Rift theory dataset.
I also looked along the lines of 'late' meaning 'deceased', but I couldn't make that stick either.


Elysia being, of course, another part of the Underworld...

My concern in all of this is that there is something what we need to do, in order to make the Rift 'IT' discoverable - and I've got absolutely NO idea what that could be.


There is some to do, "wait".

Until xmas time I'd bet.
 
Take some to Julian Market, orbiting Boeotia in Aganippe.

I found a link of sorts there when looked at the anagram (Cadmean) of the Prism worlds.

So Boeotia has a link to Persephone and the station orbiting it is a source of rare commodities?
Is this the start of a pattern?

The Momus Bog Spaniel is only available at Tartarus station in Momus Reach - that's on my list of places to visit too - can somebody check what planet that station is orbiting? I'm away from the game for the next week...

So it turns out that Momus is out of Greek mythology too.
This little tangent is going to get all kinds of entertaining - with the added bonus of rares trading :D
 
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I think you may have missed some context there. The "L" isn't meant to imply that the L is capitalized (and therefore significant) it's meant to show which letter the person Drew was referring to had gotten wrong. Here's the original message with quoting retained: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=212616&p=3276366&viewfull=1#post3276366

Holdstock (and earlier under the pseudonym Eisler) always spelled it "Raxxla" with a lower case 'l'.

This is correct. I didn't imply Raxxla had an uppercase L.

Cheers,

Drew.
 
Out of curiousity, anyone ever look into a possible connection with Carcosa from Chamber's "King in Yellow", borrowed from Bierce's 1886 story 'Inhabitants of Carcosa'? The most precise description of its location given is that it said to be located on the shores of Lake Hali in the Hyades. The descriptions given of it seem to make it clear that it must be located on another planet, or possibly even in another universe.Along the shore the cloud waves break,The twin suns sink behind the lake,The shadows lengthen In Carcosa.Strange is the night where black stars rise,And strange moons circle through the skies,But stranger still is Lost Carcosa.Songs that the Hyades shall sing,Where flap the tatters of the King,Must die unheard in Dim Carcosa.Song of my soul, my voice is dead,Die thou, unsung, as tears unshedShall dry and die in Lost Carcosa.Several other nearly undescribed places are alluded to in Chambers' writing, among them Hastur, Yhtill, and Aldebaran. Aldebaran is itself linked to Lovecraft's mythos: ALDEBARAN (Alpha Tauri): Aldebaran is generally known as ‘The Eye of the Bull’, Taurus, due to its distinct orange colouration. Originally the name was given to the entire Hyades cluster, which it is in fact not a member of, but is some distance in front of. Its name again comes from Arabic, Al Dabaran, meaning ‘The Follower’. This was due to the Greeks belief that the star followed the Pleiades. This star is linked to the Cthulhu mythos in an extremely interesting way. The original link was through the stories of Robert William Chambers in The King in Yellow, where it is the bright twin star, home of Hastur.It is regarded by August Derleth as the Star where some of the Cthulhu deities emenated from. In this respect it is of interest to quote from The Whisperer in Darkness; "To Nyarlathotep, mighty messenger must all things be told. And he shall put on the semblance of men, the waxen mask and the robe that hides and come down from the world of seven suns to mock...", Robert Graves in his book The Greek Myths states that both the Pleiades and the Hyades were the seven daughters of the Titan Atlas, making them equivalent in mythological terms. The statement from The Whisperer in Darkness clearly shows an alignment with the seven sister suns of either cluster, thus connecting Nyarlathotep to Aldebaran’s area of influence. Perhaps one can go further and express the possibility that Hastur, the King in Yellow, is one of Nyarlathotep’s "thousand other forms", since in the story; The Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath Nyarlathotep is described as wearing a "yellow mask". As well as this in the story The Crawling Chaos by Lovecraft and Elizabeth Berkeley, the destruction of the Earth is portrayed as seen by a Being on "Cetharion of the seven suns, thus connecting the area again to Nyarlathotep as the crawling chaos, the Nemesis of the Earth.
 

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You guys see what Drew posted in response to the Halsey CG? About being 'eager and anxious' about what it will reveal?!

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=246113&p=3835543&viewfull=1#post3835543

I'd be nervous. You were warned, after all.

Cheers,

Drew.

Followed a short time later by this when responding to someone about turning it into 'Salome' at CoR instead:

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=246113&page=2&p=3835972&viewfull=1#post3835972

Indeed. Who knows what she would have done with it.

Cheers,

Drew.
 
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Sorry, I just started getting interested in the Formadine Rift and reading the thread.

Where is CoR located?
Is it a player controlled faction?

Interesting that Drew said, "Don't expect to solve this one any time soon, I suspect it's going to be bigger than the Thargoids." Thargoids are not in the game yet... implies to me that we should enjoy the ride but expect the story to be drip-fed like MB's dev posts.

But the fact that devs say there is something there that can be found is intriguing for sure. One of Drew's earlier comments was something about 'the Core of the problem' which could have been a hint that whatever is to be found might be illuminated or visible when looking Coreward (like a dark system, which as far as I know aren't in game yet?), or perhaps something to do with the Core as well as the Rift. Has anyone flown directly into Sag A to see if it could be a worm-hole/portal?

Not much time to play and read really but I find this fascinating. FD should hire or contract Drew to give more life (and things to find) for mysteries/ treasure hunts like this. But it could be they just don't have the resources to spare for a big reveal/ story conclusion as this is directly related to the many pleas of folks for 'things to find' when exploring. A delicate balance I think.
 
So Boeotia has a link to Persephone and the station orbiting it is a source of rare commodities? :D

Another thing about Julian Market - I also wondered about the use of Julian Calendar within the boundaries of the puzzle.

Also, Momus Reach - Tartus Point orbits... Nemesis (DUN DUN DUN!) which may also be a reference to an Isaac Asimov novel I read years ago that had a familiar looking space station on some covers.

Random duralium foil moment - I wondered about the 7 chakras (rays) and their associated colours thing from the Theosophy perspective, which features a belief in Nordic Space Aliens. Which would be funny.
 
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Also, Momus Reach - Tartus Point orbits... Nemesis (DUN DUN DUN!) which may also be a reference to an Isaac Asimov novel I read years ago that had a familiar looking space station on some covers.
Or possibly to the Greek god and personification of divine retribution...

Hecate is another rares location which has ties to the Greek underworld - specifically Hecate as one of the guides of the newly dead.

I could definitely pull a coherent tinfoil theory out of the Underworld and rares.
 
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