The Formidine Rift - Part 2
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Sounds interesting for sure.
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Hi all. Been in workshops all week for a new project IRL
So... I'll read up on the last 20-30 pages on Friday and then start putting a new thread OP together over the weekend. Jaiotu let me know we have a wiki we can start using also.
Thanks for all the feedback so far.
TTFN! o7
So... I'll read up on the last 20-30 pages on Friday and then start putting a new thread OP together over the weekend. Jaiotu let me know we have a wiki we can start using also.
Thanks for all the feedback so far.
TTFN! o7
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No we have no idea what "it" is, but always bear in mind that it was available on release of the original game. The amount of "interesting" things available to the developers at that time was tiny, and given this an interesting mystery rather than "the main plot", you cannot expect special code, unique items or other major development effort to have been invested. There are <expletive> people who have dug around in the game files, if something unique was there, they would have found it. Given what was available at the time you are left with the list that looks something like:
Named Planet
Abandoned Station (maybe working, but population conjecture suggests not)
PPOI (like Voyager) containing existing resources
System or area with unexpected USS (same USS as the bubble, but not expected way out there)
Bizarre system using existing resources (e.g. 10 ELW)
Sure it COULD be a lot more interesting, but expecting it to be so is a little delusional
Personally, I dont care what it is, the hunting for it is the whole point.
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Now that's all damn interesting - thanks - is that going top to bottom or bottom to top? The yellow route yes?
It does continue to look like there's an exceptionally thin bit between the curved blue line and the red dog leg. How was it from your perspective?
> ignore some of that - found the rest of the spreadsheet when i scrolled up! cheers
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All those things could be put in mord than one system without it beeing that much more work than just one system. It all depends on how hard they wanted it to be to stumble upon it. And I can't se any reason they couldn't adjust things after launch if yhey want to, if make changes in systems that haven't been visited noone will ever know.
I thought I had something but I don't. I'll post just in case someone else can see a connection somewhere. This is based on the following clues found on the first page.
1. The Reorte - Riedquad line, assuming that this is an accurate direction
2. The old woman's message ending "... right on, Commander"
3. Drew's comment that one should consider "... ahem, the core of the problem"
Interpreting "right on" as "right angle": If one could stand on the RR line and look at the core so that line of sight and the RR line are at a right angle then this would give us a precise co-ordinate (point on the line closest to the core). Unfortunately this co-ordinate is in the wrong direction. Mirroring the point co-ordinates gets closer to the Rift but mirroring seems meaningless.
Taking the distance of that closest point and moving along the RR line in direction towards the Rift from various starting points seems construed and also results in un-remarkable target co-ordinates.
Please see some numbers below (provided my math is correct).
Core (Sag A) to RR-Line min distance ("D"): ............ 20366.49
Core (Sag A) to RR-Line closest point ("P"): ........... 12579.14, 48.75, 9862.88
Mirroring P gets us closer to the area of interest: ... -12579.14, -48.75, -9862.88
Travelling distance D along the RR line in direction towards the Rift gives the following coordinates:
.......... from P: -3458.04, 48.75, -2691.12
..... from Reorte: -15961.43, 48.75, -12478.84
Reorte / Riedquat coordinate errors of 0.01 ly in X and Z leads to an error of ca. +/- 25 ly at 10000 ly distance from Reorte.
1. The Reorte - Riedquad line, assuming that this is an accurate direction
2. The old woman's message ending "... right on, Commander"
3. Drew's comment that one should consider "... ahem, the core of the problem"
Interpreting "right on" as "right angle": If one could stand on the RR line and look at the core so that line of sight and the RR line are at a right angle then this would give us a precise co-ordinate (point on the line closest to the core). Unfortunately this co-ordinate is in the wrong direction. Mirroring the point co-ordinates gets closer to the Rift but mirroring seems meaningless.
Taking the distance of that closest point and moving along the RR line in direction towards the Rift from various starting points seems construed and also results in un-remarkable target co-ordinates.
Please see some numbers below (provided my math is correct).
Core (Sag A) to RR-Line min distance ("D"): ............ 20366.49
Core (Sag A) to RR-Line closest point ("P"): ........... 12579.14, 48.75, 9862.88
Mirroring P gets us closer to the area of interest: ... -12579.14, -48.75, -9862.88
Travelling distance D along the RR line in direction towards the Rift gives the following coordinates:
.......... from P: -3458.04, 48.75, -2691.12
..... from Reorte: -15961.43, 48.75, -12478.84
Reorte / Riedquat coordinate errors of 0.01 ly in X and Z leads to an error of ca. +/- 25 ly at 10000 ly distance from Reorte.
What ship are you flying ?
With an ASP, having some lvl2 jump boosts is not a bad idea IMO. 6x should be enough. 12x lvl1 seems right.
An exploration anaconda can move arround the rift much more freely, and I have yet to need a lvl2 boost.
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Do we have any confirmation that 'right on, Commander' is significant to the Rift mystery?
I only ask because it's referenced elsewhere in Reclamation, in addition to the old woman's message, so I'm not following the weight that's being attached to it.
I only ask because it's referenced elsewhere in Reclamation, in addition to the old woman's message, so I'm not following the weight that's being attached to it.
Hello,
New to the search and am currently on the way to where the map says the Rift is.
Just a thought. From the 1st post: Drew mentions that you don't need Horizons to find "it". Which means you don't need planetary landing and which in turn means you don't need Jumponium. "It" has also been around since before Horizons so I assume that you could have gotten to "it" with an exploration ship.
Am I on the right path?
Have fun, fly safe. o7
Edit: Also if I'm not mistaken it says somewhere in the Lady's speech that you need a tough ship. And the toughest exploration capable ship since launch in my opinion has been the Conda. So I'm assuming that "it" is within the jump range of an Explorer Conda without the need for Jumponium.
New to the search and am currently on the way to where the map says the Rift is.
Just a thought. From the 1st post: Drew mentions that you don't need Horizons to find "it". Which means you don't need planetary landing and which in turn means you don't need Jumponium. "It" has also been around since before Horizons so I assume that you could have gotten to "it" with an exploration ship.
Am I on the right path?
Have fun, fly safe. o7
Edit: Also if I'm not mistaken it says somewhere in the Lady's speech that you need a tough ship. And the toughest exploration capable ship since launch in my opinion has been the Conda. So I'm assuming that "it" is within the jump range of an Explorer Conda without the need for Jumponium.
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A Warning of a Severe Hazard system in the rift - system Hypo Aeb QO-Z d13-5 - can I dub it "The Four Horsemen"?
I jumped into here peacefully a couple of days ago but had a lucky landing, today i managed to jump back into it and landed squarely into the middle of the second sun. Straight into the red zone, two heaksinks despite full acceleration... probably not handled with the best cool but seeing suns from the centre was new
I jumped into here peacefully a couple of days ago but had a lucky landing, today i managed to jump back into it and landed squarely into the middle of the second sun. Straight into the red zone, two heaksinks despite full acceleration... probably not handled with the best cool but seeing suns from the centre was new
Sorry if this has already been done but I can't see anywhere in the thread where it has.
I have a couple of thoughts on Bovomit. Mainly it would suck if that's the answer because it's so obvious but also that it's difficult to ignore because it's a locked system right in the area we should apparently be searching.
My thoughts are that permits are usually (excluding the founders world) gained through getting reputation with the right faction. I know the idea that the solution might be in the bubble has been tested to death but have we applied some of the game mechanics to Bovomit to give a search area?
I believe (happy to be proven wrong) that a faction can only expand to a system that is :
A. populated
B. with 15 ly
So if there is some secret society hanging out in Bovomit there could be one accessible system we could access near Bovomit itself. I've never been out to the Rift but will be heading out there tonight and and intending to search for systems within 15 ly of Bovomit to search for stations that could potentially have some kind of faction to align to.
Sorry if this has already been covered but since I've invested so much tinfoil in the barnacle mystery I'm thinking of turning my attention to something new!
I have a couple of thoughts on Bovomit. Mainly it would suck if that's the answer because it's so obvious but also that it's difficult to ignore because it's a locked system right in the area we should apparently be searching.
My thoughts are that permits are usually (excluding the founders world) gained through getting reputation with the right faction. I know the idea that the solution might be in the bubble has been tested to death but have we applied some of the game mechanics to Bovomit to give a search area?
I believe (happy to be proven wrong) that a faction can only expand to a system that is :
A. populated
B. with 15 ly
So if there is some secret society hanging out in Bovomit there could be one accessible system we could access near Bovomit itself. I've never been out to the Rift but will be heading out there tonight and and intending to search for systems within 15 ly of Bovomit to search for stations that could potentially have some kind of faction to align to.
Sorry if this has already been covered but since I've invested so much tinfoil in the barnacle mystery I'm thinking of turning my attention to something new!
None at all, if your ship has decent jump range. Just pan around on the map and follow the denser aggregations of stars and you'll get across it no problem. Don't try to hold a straight course.
No we dont. It is a standard phrase between members of the Pilots Federation since Elite 84. Its only slight relevance was when Drew used it as a little test of our cryptography skills.
Old Lady does say that the coords are at the end of the message, and right on, Commander is the last thing she says, so many have analysed it to death. They could also have been in text form.
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No idea. But if "it" or "they" are a threat to us requiring patrols then they pretty much have to be mobile, which implies involvement of multiple systems. I suppose it could be an artifact such as a jump gateway in a single system letting a threat through.
Throw us a bone FD the dogs are hungry.
I've said this several times before and no doubt will several times again. "Right on commander" was a pop up message you got every x number of kills on the original Elite. It has therefore become a sort of tag line like "Live long and prosper" or "May the force by with you".
I would be very surprised if there was anything at all to it, beyond that context.
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Alright, so I'll continue to ignore it and play with my rares theory.
To misquote Depeche Mode: My own, personal tinfoil...
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