Exactly what has been bothering me aswell. The clues are vague enough to be connected to anything, ever. Reminds me of that galnet article posted sometime ago, about a musical that was touring the bubble named something like "400 billion stars" and it was about human history since the very beginning...wait...oh ...let's put that in a theory aswell...
The Formidine Rift - Part 2
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Exactly what has been bothering me aswell. The clues are vague enough to be connected to anything, ever. Reminds me of that galnet article posted sometime ago, about a musical that was touring the bubble named something like "400 billion stars" and it was about human history since the very beginning...wait...oh ...let's put that in a theory aswell...
I think this checking out the Prism/colour theories coming via Galnet is a good call at the moment - we do know for sure there's things we've missed right near home, our next lead may already be there - but there have already been a lot of ships through the named systems so a little nudge does feel required, if only to reassure we're not chasing our tails for the moment
Jaiotu has this figured out since the beginning, Ouroboros.
There probably nothing in it, but I have wondered why many of the minor factions have a colour in their name. Purple, blue etc... I mean LOADs of them have. It is just lack of imagination of FD's part or something else?
*sigh*
Time to jump on the bandwagon
Has anyone noticed any system names along the RR line that could be ciphers from keywords in reclamation?
List of ciphers here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Classical_ciphers
Sorry, I watch gravity falls, Im a real stickler for ciphers
edit: Please tell me if this has been discussed already (I cant be bothered to check through 200 pages)
We actually don't have any indication that what we are looking for actually fall 'along the RR line'. The line was given to indicate what direction to go in order to find the Formidine Rift. Tons of theories about what we need to be looking for once we reach the Rift.
Then there is the problem of figuring out just what a 'keyword' from Reclamation would be. Drew said he inserted some things into the text as a salute to people who played the original Elite, some for FE2, some for FFE and some for Oolite. Would those be keywords or just an hommage? Would keywords be character names? System names? Ship names? Multiply the number of keyword by all the systems that fall withing 1 light-year of the RR line by the possible number of cipher-systems and what do you get? Too many possibilities.
I don't doubt that if you took all the procedurally named system in the galaxy and ran them through ROT13 you'd probably find at least one system that 'appeared' to have a name that 'means something'.
Not that it is a bad idea on the surface ... I just don't think anyone is going to have enough time to collect every one of those system names and then have time to run it through every possible one of those ciphers on wikipedia. The substitution cipher alone would take forever because there is a near infinite number of possible substitutions.
Yes thats very true, I think if a cipher was part of it then we couldn't work backwards from any of the system names (as you say because of the sheer number of systems), but from different key sources. By keywords I meant exactly as you said- names mostly, such as Salome, Formidine etc.
Then there is the problem of the cipher itself- which one would be used, most system names have numbers in them so that would probably require 2 cipher to work out. If there was a cipher that worked it would probably relate to a sub-sector name.
I thought it might be a useful suggestion if anyone wanted to have a look at other than myself
(trying to work backwards using a viginiere is quite easy, I might have a look through that)
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Like the Rederation
Did anybody reach a conclusion about where to hand in survey data? I got back yesterday from a 6 week Riftwards survey trip, & handed in 28MCr worth at Diaguandri, as (a) it's Independent and (b) it's where I parked my Python. However I then had pause for thought - the leading faction there is Brotherhood of the Dark Circle; any relation to the Dark Wheel?
The data got me from 53% Pathfinder to 54% Ranger; only another 126MCr or so to go for Elite)
And no INRA hit squad (so far).
The data got me from 53% Pathfinder to 54% Ranger; only another 126MCr or so to go for Elite
)And no INRA hit squad (so far).
I'm not laughing. You wouldn't believe the time I've wasted looking at that sentence and the surrounding galnet articles.
Not from reclamation but I certainly have from the Galnet articles. Personally I doubt there's simply an encoded system name anywhere but that didn't stop me from trying.
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Did anybody reach a conclusion about where to hand in survey data? I got back yesterday from a 6 week Riftwards survey trip, & handed in 28MCr worth at Diaguandri, as (a) it's Independent and (b) it's where I parked my Python. However I then had pause for thought - the leading faction there is Brotherhood of the Dark Circle; any relation to the Dark Wheel?
The data got me from 53% Pathfinder to 54% Ranger; only another 126MCr or so to go for Elite
And no INRA hit squad (so far).
The Dark Wheel is an ancient organization. It has survived the upheavals that ended Galcop, wars between the Federation and Empire, the 'invasion' of the Thargoids. No doubt that organization has splintered many times. Is the Dark Wheel of Shinrarta the true Dark Wheel? What about Children of Raxxla? Could the 'Brotherhood of the Dark Circle' be yet another offshoot? Why not?
When I played the original Elite back in 1985 I certainly considered myself to be a pilot for the dark wheel. I'm sure plenty of Old-Timers felt the same way. What we imagine that the dark wheel was back then certainly has bearing on what the players create in the game. Personally I like the idea of the dark will now being fractured.
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Tangential Tinfoil
I was perusing the Galnet articles to see what else was happening when Kahina was visiting Sol and I discovered this from 17 Feb:
In a formal ceremony in the Congress building on Mars, Congressman Ethan Naylor, the Congressman for Siren was formally signed in as the Federal Vice President.
This is a controversial choice as this is the first time a member of the Federal Leadership has been a Congressman from a frontier world. Some have said that President Halsey is reacting to critics that here government is too Sol-centric, and others that she may regret the choice.
In his appointment speech Naylor said:
“I am honoured to have this phenomenal role. I will see it as my job to see that Federal States on the frontier will get the attention they deserve.”
We know Kahina was on/around Mars at this time, so maybe this is what she didn't want to be late for.
Now 'Siren', of course, relates back to Greek mythology - as so much of this mystery does - including our dear friend Orpheus, who played his lyre more beautifully than their song.
VP Naylor was with President Halsey on board Spaceflight One when it disappeared, so tinfoil says we can tie those two threads together into one big, messy, complicated package
I was perusing the Galnet articles to see what else was happening when Kahina was visiting Sol and I discovered this from 17 Feb:
In a formal ceremony in the Congress building on Mars, Congressman Ethan Naylor, the Congressman for Siren was formally signed in as the Federal Vice President.
This is a controversial choice as this is the first time a member of the Federal Leadership has been a Congressman from a frontier world. Some have said that President Halsey is reacting to critics that here government is too Sol-centric, and others that she may regret the choice.
In his appointment speech Naylor said:
“I am honoured to have this phenomenal role. I will see it as my job to see that Federal States on the frontier will get the attention they deserve.”
We know Kahina was on/around Mars at this time, so maybe this is what she didn't want to be late for.
Now 'Siren', of course, relates back to Greek mythology - as so much of this mystery does - including our dear friend Orpheus, who played his lyre more beautifully than their song.
VP Naylor was with President Halsey on board Spaceflight One when it disappeared, so tinfoil says we can tie those two threads together into one big, messy, complicated package
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I noticed that but it happens before March 6th/9th which is the 2nd "don't want to be late" post. If the events in Lugh weren't player driven I'd be more suspicious of it since on March 9th 3301 a special session of congress was called to address it.
https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/09-MAR-3301
That also strikes me as too early. On the 9th she's still futzing around docking at Mars.
The whole timeline strikes me as odd. It takes her a month to get from attempting to enter Sol System to arriving at Earth, she technically 'returns to Earth' without actually notably visiting it and then manages to get from Sol back to the Empire in a day. I read the whole thing more as Drew trying to get our attention over the course of a month and then getting on with it. In a literal sense the timeline doesn't really add up.
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Is Antares on/nearby to the RR line?VP Naylor was with President Halsey on board Spaceflight One when it disappeared, so tinfoil says we can tie those two threads together into one big, messy, complicated package
Oh I agree with regards to the timeline - it really can't be considered to be particularly precise, especially given the duplicated posts.
This is why I have my doubts about the significance of the Spring Solstice.
I just throw in any random idea/connection I spot, in the hope that somebody else can pick it up and run with it [big grin]
Personally, I keep coming back to Greek mythology and Persephone/Orpheus/Underworld connections.
Happily, I now have my Vega system permit, so I can go chase down the rare commodity sold there.
My system to solve this mistery:
1-Head towards the rift
2-Decide you have gone far enough
3-Explore the out of every system you find
4-Don't find any anomaly.
5-Headbang against the ship controls.
6-Hit the AFM to fix the controls.
7-Go to 1.
1-Head towards the rift
2-Decide you have gone far enough
3-Explore the out of every system you find
4-Don't find any anomaly.
5-Headbang against the ship controls.
6-Hit the AFM to fix the controls.
7-Go to 1.
I finished mapping the "Grasshopper Trail" a three legged crossing of the rift.
It rather close to the middle, and rather easy with a 38lyr anaconda (2 lvl1 FSD boosts).
Here is the link of the passage in EDD :
http://i.imgur.com/NxD6KJe.png
Once you get to the exit point, a single lvl1 FSD boost will get you out, or, you can tag along eastward for a bit longer.
It rather close to the middle, and rather easy with a 38lyr anaconda (2 lvl1 FSD boosts).
Here is the link of the passage in EDD :
http://i.imgur.com/NxD6KJe.png
Once you get to the exit point, a single lvl1 FSD boost will get you out, or, you can tag along eastward for a bit longer.
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Nice one!
I'm actually trying to map a way through PHOI AESCS, but I seem to have reached a dead end -considering I'm tryingg to limit the jump rage so an average ship like mine (31ly jump) can make it-.
The area is really though and maze like, even with 38 lyr range. An ASP can make it
with quite a lot of jump boosts.
I tried crossing further east, but it seems to be a no go.
with quite a lot of jump boosts.
I tried crossing further east, but it seems to be a no go.
I'm afraid I will have to step back and probably try a bit to the east. I'm trying to get the most direct way along the RR line, but seems a rather difficult task.
Good work that man!
There's just those stubborn lakes to either side of the line itself and the sort-of corner defined in the densely plotted area to the south of where you were. None of our little group could penetrate it and it is right on the line for the purists who fancy a challenge
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