the freefly event in star citizen made me appreciate elite again

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I spent a little while trying to get the 'ready made' Hotas profile for my Warthog to do something, set up bindings for on foot movement, jumped into the game.

Got out from the bunk, wandered to the lift, went to ground floor, walked for a few minutes, got a tram, walked a bit, got another lift, walked a bit more to the ship.
HOTAS doing nothing, default WASD keys used instead... When W made me go backward....

Got out of the hangar, retracted landing gear, was tired by then so logged out & went to bed.
Fired the game up next morning: Back in my bunk...
Uninstalled.

Performance throughout was pretty poor, but I did assume the servers might be busy...

Overall impression for me is to wait until it is a released product: It is very pretty and has a big shopping mall & stuff, but FPS performance was possibly comparable to Odyssey in a large (not extraction) settlement CZ, distinctly choppy.

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The ability to leave and continue continue the next day from where you left (aka 'saving your game') is called 'persistence tech' in SC and is currently in 'tier0'.

It's what's so irritating about the project. They proudly brag of half-baked implementations of basic functionality that every other studio silently takes care of in the first few months of Pre-Alpha development, give it a fancy name and loudly proclaim they are revolutionising the entire industry.

In this case it's particularly bad: go trading. You buy cargo to sell elsewhere, the game crashes, you lose your cargo. It means that if the game crashes once every ~25 runs you will run a loss overall. It's not even close to a top25 issue, but this alone would have people ragequit permanently in any other game.

It takes some time and perspective to really grasp how mind blowingly poor it is, and how absurdly incompetent a studio has to be to deliver this after a decade and 400 million dollar. It's unquestionably the single largest failure in the industry, ever.
 
Whatever happened to that facial scanning tech they hyped up a few years ago?
I don't know about that, but when I installed it, it detected my camera and asked me if I wished to use it for something or other!
I assume the 'camera' it saw was the pass-through on my Rift S as I don't have a camera on my PC! 🤷‍♂️
 
Pardon, they introduced.. what? o_O
They had endless peripheral stuff. The special Star Citizen SSD (with Intel?) was one of many. It spurred, for a while, the "I bet you dont have a good SSD!" comment from fans when people complained about performance. Same with the 'custom Star Citizen HOTAS"

The main point is to add credibility to the project by involving other corps. Most of it just fizzles out after a while.
 
It kinda still exists. It looks grotesque, which is why other studios dropped this 'new tech' ~15 years ago. The 'special SC webcam' died a quiet death. Not sure if that was before or after they intriducrd the special SC SSD harddisk. At some point all the semi-scams blur into each other.
They joined the custom white SC branded Hotas in the afterlife.
 
disclaimer: i haven't even played odyssey yet. i don't have experiences first hand, but i've watched myriads of videos and streams and can safely say that it's quite bad.

star citizen has just launched a freefly event. i was waiting for an opportunity to check how my new hardware would perform. i upgraded to a ryzen 5 5600x, 32gb of ram and a beefy corsair mp600pro m2 ssd. my gpu is still my old gtx 1660ti which is still very decent. i only play in 1080p anyways. so it's perfectly fine. i can run all my games at 75fps. shadow of the tomb raider actually being the most demanding game in my entire library.

oh boy, but star citizen? i don't know what i expected. the loading times are absurd. the game "runs"?! below 30fps most of the time. the hardware is being utilized though which is good i guess. anyways, while the game looks fantastic, with this performance it's not playable.

and then there's the little fact that there is not much of a game to talk about. as a completely new player, you have no freaking idea about anything. good luck calling your ship and fly into space. the most basic of tasks require you to either ask in chat or read a guide/watch a tutorial video. what you're confronted with is pretty much just empty.

it made me appreciate elite. it teaches you the basic stuff. it has gameplay mechanics and systems that make sense, that are coherent within the game. it's like, you know, an actual game. yea, we all know about the issues which will get better over time. i expect big leaps with the console launch. that's when i will probably buy odyssey. but star citizen? it's a glorified tech demo that runs awfully on high end hardware. and no one seems to care that this game is in development for ten freaking years. ten years and we get this? looking at this, i do appreciate elite a whole lot more and i actually would like to get back into it.
Uhm. I don't know about the rest, but I disagree on the first line.
 
I've heard several people say that the free fly events are the absolute worst time to try Star Citizen because the amount of extra network traffic and server load means you're likely yo get the worst possible experience at these times.

i have not seen a single other person during my session. i didn't experience any network specific lag either. just poor framerates. i did however just walk around and look at stuff. i didn't do anything.
 
How many other massively multiplayer first person space games with ships and on foot gameplay are out there? We could start drawing comparisons between EDO and Escape From Tarkov, or Assetto Corsa Competizione, or Hatoful Boyfriend, but I can't see such arguments going down much far...
NMS, Dual Universe, Space Engineers or even Space Engine... We are beginning to have a choice.
 
Pardon, they introduced.. what? o_O
@Ian Skippy is referring to their mutual shilling exercise with Intel:



To be fair to them, SC is by all accounts literally unplayable without at least some form of SSD.
 
oh boy, but star citizen? i don't know what i expected. the loading times are absurd. the game "runs"?! below 30fps most of the time. the hardware is being utilized though which is good i guess. anyways, while the game looks fantastic, with this performance it's not playable.
30fps is totally playable. Action movies are at 24 fps. The original BBC/Spectrum elite had a much lower fps than 30. 30fps is a cap option in the menus of Elite Dangerous for a reason, because it is perfectly playable at that.
 
But if you've used to higher FPS rates, that 30 FPS feels horrible - clunky & unresponsive.
Can't be that unresponsive unless you have reactions ten times faster than normal humans - are you Superman?

Typical human reaction time is 250ms which equals 4fps. This means anything more then 4 fps feels like motion for human in games. More fps = better motion quality = more small details.
 
Well judging by the endless threads about ship interiors, that seems to be a key selling point for many here. 🤭
You may joke, but yes. Many SC/ED fans primarily look around, take screenshots and pose. In ED it's mostly solitary relaxation, in SC it's the dream of Second Life in Space. With a heavy p2w slant, which gives it a creepy "I wish I could be a self-obsessed Bezos in real life, but since I am a complete nobody with my best years long behind me the best I can do is spend $5000 to be a rich playboy-pretend in a computer game. Oh, I am also a super buff military hero bro. Wanna check out the swimming pool in my yacht?".
 
You may joke, but yes. Many SC/ED fans primarily look around, take screenshots and pose. In ED it's mostly solitary relaxation, in SC it's the dream of Second Life in Space. With a heavy p2w slant, which gives it a creepy "I wish I could be a self-obsessed Bezos in real life, but since I am a complete nobody with my best years long behind me the best I can do is spend $5000 to be a rich playboy-pretend in a computer game. Oh, I am also a super buff military hero bro. Wanna check out the swimming pool in my yacht?".
You say Bezos, the first thing that I think of with the whales is actually Philip Green, but we're on the same page lol.
 
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