That's the rule sane people apply to games they don't like.
"The game is almost a political and social experiment.”
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That's the rule sane people apply to games they don't like.
Yup, as I say tastes vary and the games industry should be big enough to accomodate all - sadly they chase the big bucks and we get what's "popular" - so we get Star wars Battlefront2, World of Warcraft or Assasins creed origins - which are fine and all - just not to my tastes very much.
Bearing in mind I built my first computer -a zx80 (not even a zx81) so I could code the rules from star fleet battles into it ....... and I enjoyed doing that.
And you should indeed never turn your back on me... and i've already booby trapped the escape routes
I started writing computer games on a shared mainframe terminal, then a PDP-80. The C-64 was wonderful in the day.
That's when coding was simple enough to be printed in glossy magazines.
Now, it takes teams that rival the teams I was on in military aerospace. This changes the balance of responsibility to senior managers.
Yes, the game industry is large. But, Elite is a unique game, with a playerbase that is skewed older, and geekier than the usual AAA game. Some of us actually *could* do better than the team has. Look at the third party devs.
And a player base that paid in advance for a promise.
So, Frontier has a crew of pilots and "aircraftsmen" aboard it's airplane. Who genuinely know when things are going wrong.
Not a fun ride for Frontier's senior management. Any defense they put up will be shredded by the DA's, who are also experts themselves on the subject. And, a judge and jury composed of field or flag rank officers, with little sympathy for the captain who lost the ship.
No wonder they limit community managers to a rigid script. No livestreams, with explicit admissions of guilt. Loss of face equals loss of empennage.
We funded Frontier's existence as an company who could attract Hollywood to make games for them.
Now, Elite has served it's business purpose. Because it's the Boss's Baby, they can't get rid of it. But they *can* throttle it back to just above stall speed, to reduce fuel burn.
That is why many are less than happy with the game. They feel like they are lab rats, in an experiment run by Space Loaches. How long will the lab rats last?
It could be a Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy thing, where the mice are actually experimenting us... Look how that ended...
Poor Mumu
EDIT: By the way, you know our group has nothing to do with that story and everything to do with the KLF and The Illuminatus Trilogy.
Fnord!
War Games tought me the only winning move was to not play at all.
The dogs are waaay cooler than the humans. Thanks for clarifying that. I'll let you off on that, now.
Correct quote about the current state of play.
Meh.
Ship acquisition, outfitting and engineering masquerade as skill and content progression in Elite.
"Oh I think I'll try smuggling rares" got a ship for that, "Oh I think I'l fight goids." - got a ship for that, "Oh I'm going to CZ and Res farm." got lots of ships for that, "Oh I'm going to haul bulk passengers." got a ship for that, "Oh I think I'll do assasinations." got a ship for that, "Oh I think I'll mine." got a ship for that, "Oh I think I'll go exploring in a big ship / small ship" I got ships for that, "Oh I think I'll do some machinima. " I got ships and toon faces for that etc. etc. etc.
My minimum grind alt account is going back to Colonia soon, I think. I maxed my Asp Explorer's FSD. So, I can participate in events there, and explore. I *might* grind some 4A modules to ship, before leaving, just for a Cobra when I get there.
So, my only alt account stays simple. I cut back on my main account months ago, to reduce grind and administration. The ships are all pretty much maxed.
My main problem is that the alien storylines do not interest me, the CG's are less than oatmeal to me, trading is not what it used to be, passenger missions are too much of a hassle (get scanned, no money), and I am lousy at PvP.
Also, I suck at driving an SRV.
That leaves simple exploration as my remaining interest.
How long this lab poodle can put up with jump loading screens, hundreds of thousands of light seconds in each system to properly record it, and the occasional Death Sun is the question.
So, my only alt account stays simple. I cut back on my main account months ago, to reduce grind and administration. The ships are all pretty much maxed.
My main problem is that the alien storylines do not interest me, the CG's are less than oatmeal to me, trading is not what it used to be, passenger missions are too much of a hassle (get scanned, no money), and I am lousy at PvP.
Also, I suck at driving an SRV.
That leaves simple exploration as my remaining interest.
How long this lab poodle can put up with jump loading screens, hundreds of thousands of light seconds in each system to properly record it, and the occasional Death Sun is the question.
As I say , different things for different folks - I have a Python set up just the way I want and I can outrun or outfight anything or anyone in this game as I choose, be it npc, Thargoid or Human.
Also have a Corvette - just because I can - looks quite nice (but it's no Python) and an Ieagle kitted out for maximum pvp annoyance and for going ridiculously fast along canyons.
I like all the alien stuff and spend far too much time at guardian ruins just putting about in my SRV - also enjoy exploring any planetary stuff be it human or alien - find it quite chill with my own music and you get to collect tons of usefull crap as you go.
Also helps that I have edtracker for 2d and an occulus rift Dk2 for 3d - one heck of a game with music and 3d - the dk2 was a steal at £100 from CEX awhile back - having used the cv1 - while it's better - it isnt hundreds of pounds better, so a good shout if you see one cheap like I did.
Also on the controls front - anyone playing with anything but a HOTAS - beg, borrow or steal one - it's a different game.
More background stuff in the game and a bit more interaction from the devs would be nice - but, I'm not kidding about hoping SC comes out and does ok - I really do think it is the game many folk are looking for (just highly unlikely it will fill that role as time goes on).
Geyser hunting? Mining (very chill now limpets can ignore). Fuel Ratting? Bucky Racing? Just some thoughts.
Willing to try anything once myself (except line dancing).
I just got nailed during a Python trade run for CG. Thought I'd got away too.
Still, the notoriety bonus more than halved my rebuy. Nice.
I love my main account Python. I'm a pilot, so I use the stick. VR gives this old dog headaches.
It would be so much better if the community managers actually said something substantive. Even better would be a senior manager to give out hard information.
I have the same aversion to VR with the headaches...old age, old eyes and all that. I got myself a Tobii 4c eyetracker as an alternative...hard to play without it now from an immersion sense (dreaded phrase police will drop in and bomb me for that one) since just looking around for situational awareness in a cockpit is such a natural reflex... a lot cheaper than VR too, not quite as breath taking of course...but a good alternative.
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Can I interupt this thread for a minute, to say if you can get to LP 581-36 right now and fancy fighting some Thargoids - especially in Vr - it's absolutely top notch right now - binary system with a white dwarf - lighting is sublime - Sagan class tourist ship here as well. Lots of NHSS with NPC vs scouts - for me at least - this is as good as it can get.... there is literally nothing they could do to better this for me right now this minute. (well maybe - you know ... TELL folk in game about it ).
).The head tracker is a good idea. I have neck, back, and shoulder pain from keeping my head moving under G's. But, there is no substitute for the Mark 1 eyeballs.
I use a large monitor to partially compensate. The eyes need it for everything else on the PC. I also use the mouse headlook whenever possible, another advantage to flying with a Warthog stick.
Can I interupt this thread for a minute, to say if you can get to LP 581-36 right now and fancy fighting some Thargoids - especially in Vr - it's absolutely top notch right now - binary system with a white dwarf - lighting is sublime - Sagan class tourist ship here as well. Lots of NHSS with NPC vs scouts - for me at least - this is as good as it can get.... there is literally nothing they could do to better this for me right now this minute. (well maybe - you know ... TELL folk in game about it
I would be facing a rebuy screen in seconds. Sorry.
Stick to scouts - specially with npc's there - stick to NHSS 3 and 4 - you'll get 2 or 4 of the little ones - they jink and dodge something fierce, but won't be able to hurt you much. Great combat practice and very satisfying. I'm using 2 gimballed beams with a gimballed Mc to strip them down and two guardian plasma's to pop them. But anything will work on the wee buggers.
Just avoid the big buggers and I pretty much can guarentee you'll be Top Gun in no time
Then they don't get to whine about motivation - in a sandbox, you provide your own.
I dunno if it's so much about whining about motivation as it is about whining about how menial the activities to accomplish said goals are.
Get a decent steering wheel. Really transforms SRV driving.
Awesome game; love it!
Probably does. It's a choice between that, or or on of my prescription refills....
Easier to skip the SRV, than have to go to the ER.