The Helium Hunt: Tracking those elusive Helium-rich Gas Giants
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Oh, 33.7 HE% is a very high value. Unfortunately there are just 8 systems in that boxel - I might have considered that 14kly detour if there were a few dozen
Just found this on my way to Phrae Prau YE-A E0 for Cmdr Cormin Morans mission. I have been pretty ill for the past several days, so my progress has been limited, but I am hoping to get to that system in the next few days...of course finding this, and then searching out nearby systems for more HRGG's is slowing me down. I am currently checking other systems in the boxel.
The Zero system in this boxel is 33.9% helium. There are 76 systems in this FE-E d12 boxel, and I have hit five of them now, and all have had HRGG's with 33% or higher.
Well, the number of HRGG's in individual systems declined in the higher numbered systems, so the entire boxel had 77 systems and a total of 198 HRGG's. The largest number in a single system was 8. The highest helium percentage was 35%, while the lowest was 32.1%, with around a dozen over 34%. One thing I did notice was an unusually high number of gas giants with water based life in these systems.
I chanced upon a HRGG in Splojue SF-A c16, when I happened to stop for some scanning whilst trying to talk to someone and decided to do a search of the boxel to see if I could find any more. It proved quite profitable!
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The Splojue SF-A c** boxel has more systems with large numbers of objects than I would expect for a mass code 'c', with several having 60+ and one having 70+ (and I haven't visited them all yet, although I'm not sure I'll stay long enough to). Helium percentages have so far ranged from 29.6% to 31.7%. I've also found two Earth-like Worlds in this boxel. Strangely, all of them except Splojue SF-A c42 A 8 were in a binary configuration.
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The HRGG I've found here are:
Splojue SF-A c16 A 10 (He 31.4%, wasn't running EDDiscovery when I scanned this so the data won't be in EDSM. It has 80.8991 Earth masses, radius 55,756 km and surface temperature 137K)
Splojue SF-A c5 3 (He 31.2%)
Splojue SF-A c40 1 (He 30.9%)
Splojue SF-A c42 A4, A6, A8 (all He 31.5%) and B4 (not scanned - 167 Kls away)
Splojue SF-A c39 8 (He 31.5%)
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I'll probably continue onwards with my journey rather than do the whole boxel but I've visited 20-30 systems within it so far.
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The Splojue SF-A c** boxel has more systems with large numbers of objects than I would expect for a mass code 'c', with several having 60+ and one having 70+ (and I haven't visited them all yet, although I'm not sure I'll stay long enough to). Helium percentages have so far ranged from 29.6% to 31.7%. I've also found two Earth-like Worlds in this boxel
. Strangely, all of them except Splojue SF-A c42 A 8 were in a binary configuration..
The HRGG I've found here are:
Splojue SF-A c16 A 10 (He 31.4%, wasn't running EDDiscovery when I scanned this so the data won't be in EDSM. It has 80.8991 Earth masses, radius 55,756 km and surface temperature 137K)
Splojue SF-A c5 3 (He 31.2%)
Splojue SF-A c40 1 (He 30.9%)
Splojue SF-A c42 A4, A6, A8 (all He 31.5%) and B4 (not scanned - 167 Kls away)
Splojue SF-A c39 8 (He 31.5%)
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I'll probably continue onwards with my journey rather than do the whole boxel but I've visited 20-30 systems within it so far.
Whilst looking for Earth-like Worlds a few hundred LY from IC 4673 Sector, I chanced upon a system with high He % and decided to check the boxel for Helium-rich Gas Giants. My search was not exhaustive but still very useful - not only did I find five Helium-rich Gas giants, I also encountered two Earth-like Worlds, an Ammonia World and one 'gold' system (contains all elements available through surface mining). Here are the HRGGs with their He %:
Clookeou BX-I d10-70 2 (30.7%), 3 (30.7%)
Clookeou BX-I d10-44 4a (31.4%), 6 (31.4%)
Clookeou BX-I d10-114 1 (31.4%)
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In spite of the high He %, there were some systems with many gas giants but not as many HRGGs as you might expect. In the case of the last of those HRGGs above, there are nine other gas giants in the system but no other HRGGs. In another system, Clookeou BX-I d10-104, the He % is 31.3% but none of the nine gas giants are HRGG (I did not scan those around the distant secondary star but checked their HUD icons).
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There might be more HRGG in this boxel but I've moved on as I have found everything I was looking for in the neighbourhood. It was an interesting boxel with some complicated systems and many gas giants in general (although the systems with Earth-like Worlds did not have any).
Clookeou BX-I d10-70 2 (30.7%), 3 (30.7%)
Clookeou BX-I d10-44 4a (31.4%), 6 (31.4%)
Clookeou BX-I d10-114 1 (31.4%)
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In spite of the high He %, there were some systems with many gas giants but not as many HRGGs as you might expect. In the case of the last of those HRGGs above, there are nine other gas giants in the system but no other HRGGs. In another system, Clookeou BX-I d10-104, the He % is 31.3% but none of the nine gas giants are HRGG (I did not scan those around the distant secondary star but checked their HUD icons).
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There might be more HRGG in this boxel but I've moved on as I have found everything I was looking for in the neighbourhood. It was an interesting boxel with some complicated systems and many gas giants in general (although the systems with Earth-like Worlds did not have any).
Well I'm on my way to Sag A*. I can try to scan as much Helium-rich Giants as I see.
What do you need? Is it enough to just scan the star and the Helium Giants or would you need me to scan all the other Gas Giant in the system as well?
Is a screenshot of the Giant in system map with the specifications of the planet enough?
Greetings
Ragnar
What do you need? Is it enough to just scan the star and the Helium Giants or would you need me to scan all the other Gas Giant in the system as well?
Is a screenshot of the Giant in system map with the specifications of the planet enough?
Greetings
Ragnar
Scanning the main star plus any HRGGs and uploading that data to EDDN/EDSM would be much appreciated for future analysis. Scanning other objects in such systems is up to your own preference.
Roger then. I just installed EDDiscovery which seems to be able to upload all data with a mouseclick to EDDB. I will have a look into EDDN/EDSM as soon as I can make it.
Happy to help if I can.
Happy to help if I can.
Well done CMDR, and EDD was a good choice! If your data is showing up on EDDB they should also be on EDSM, as both are fed by EDDN (as per my limited understanding).
I found Helium-rich gas giant system group, "Boelts RI-T d3-0" - "Boelts RI-T d3-420". There are Helium-rich gas giants in most of them.
Also found total 2 ELW in there, one of witch was this gem https://i.imgur.com/avqZIyg.png
Highest helium % i found (as far as i remembered to check) was 35,8% https://i.imgur.com/CpvRzsc.png aka https://www.edsm.net/en/system/id/27177689/name/Boelts+RI-T+d3-324
Also found total 2 ELW in there, one of witch was this gem https://i.imgur.com/avqZIyg.png
Highest helium % i found (as far as i remembered to check) was 35,8% https://i.imgur.com/CpvRzsc.png aka https://www.edsm.net/en/system/id/27177689/name/Boelts+RI-T+d3-324
Nice finds, CMDRs! In both these high HE%-systems every GG is a HRGG (assuming you scanned the entire system), which fits nicely with the findings so far. Keep 'em coming!
Found another one: https://www.edsm.net/en/system/bodi...ls/idB/21647514/nameB/Dryoi+Bla+FH-S+d5-338+6
30.8% one of three gas giants is a HRGG.
30.8% one of three gas giants is a HRGG.
Found a HRGG boxel Eidairld CQ-A C28 with a nice mix of G,K,and M class stars. I am in the process of fully scanning it, but I have also been hitting other nearby systems in different masscodes, and after hitting about a dozen, none contained HRGG's. Granted, this is only a single data point, but does suggest the possibility that HRGG presence is related to boxel as opposed to region of space.
Nice, that corresponds nicely with one of the core message of the OP.
Then again, the region of space *does* have influence on the occurance of HRGG. E.g. as shown in the OP there are a few kly around the core no HRGG at all. And today I learned that there are some interesting thresholds/drop-offs around the edges of the galaxy's spiral arms that are currently being looked into. So there's still a lot to learn!
Region in the sense of where a helium rich boxel will show up, absolutely. Region in the sense of an area of space known to contain HRGG's, it does seem to be limited to the specific boxel within the helium rich region.
Just found this helium rich gem of a system...
10 HRGG's, with that last one...a HRGG with 5 HRGG moons.
I found a pair of systems with HRGG while on DECE. I had forgotten about them, but found them again while cleaning out my bookmarks.
https://www.edsm.net/en/system/id/26422671/name/Hypo+Chruia+BP-A+c29-0
https://www.edsm.net/en/system/bodies/id/26422268/name/Hypo+Chruia+BP-A+c29-1
https://www.edsm.net/en/system/id/26422671/name/Hypo+Chruia+BP-A+c29-0
https://www.edsm.net/en/system/bodies/id/26422268/name/Hypo+Chruia+BP-A+c29-1
Nice, thanks
Feel free to check the following systems (if they exist) and report of your findings:
- Plaa Aescs OS-T e3-1
- Plaa Aescs OS-T e3-2
- Plaa Aescs OS-T e3-3
- Plaa Aescs OS-T e3-...
I did this exact thing on my way back from the bubble... the first 3 systems were just lone stars, however the 4th one (Plaa Aescs OS-T e3-4) had 3 Helium-Rich Gas Giants and they are all mine! Sadly I can't add them to EDSM because I am a XB1 player
Also there were 3 other Gas Giants in the system, 2 Class IVs and a Class III, which makes sense given the He% of the Helium-Rich Giants (32.7%).
So it's absolutely true that they will spawn in systems with the same sub-sector name and same mass code. However I see no real pattern in the sub-sectors, so it's really hard to tell how exactly the Galactic forge calculates these. I didn't explore anymore systems however, but whoever wants to do it next in that sub-sector try with e3-5 and so on! Maybe you'll find some too!
They were exactly what I was looking for to finish off my stellar bodies collection! I have now discovered at least one or one variant of each type of stellar body which is a really satisfying accomplishment! I'm glad I found this forum, it really helped me find what I was looking for, thank you commanders! o7