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He had insufficient fuel and refused to fight and call his wing for backup. In this instance, I fail to see the difference.


Your unwillingness to see the difference does not change the fact that FDev has said this is not combat logging. Your difference of belief, does not matter one whit!
 
Would be more believable had he actually said that on his stream ... as it stands - cowardly act.

True, I will have my fun with it. BUT look whats going on- usually whenever CL video is posted, the culprit is only condemned by the most vocal pvp community members, most comments are "non consensual pvp- he was right to CL!".

This time is different, isnt it?
 
Not bothered, it's all part of the game so all legit.

Bit odd it was prompted by an inability to jump away though. Though I am sure some members are currently saluting hisnoble action on their forums. =p

I think with this one there'll be very little anger directed at Frontier, just lots of laughing from the PvE folk. And going forward people will be logging on SDC members with either a macro linking to this video or some macro saying they are doing it in support of this noble cause! =p
 
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True, I will have my fun with it. BUT look whats going on- usually whenever CL video is posted, the culprit is only condemned by the most vocal pvp community members, most comments are "non consensual pvp- he was right to CL!".

This time is different, isnt it?

I was thinking the same thing.
It's funny how some hardcore PvP, anti-CLer's (including the 15sec rule) seem to be supporting/justifying the CMDR's actions on this thread
 
He combat loged right? combat loging sucks.

However naming and shaming is bullying so I would be carefull about that.
It is however ashame that not many pilots who play in open are willing to actualy play in open
 
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#1 he always says he's getting ''griefed'' it's a meme, he's not being serious. Go check some of his videos.
#2 He did it on purpose if you aren't smart enough to understand the context go watch the vod.
#3 I guess 15 sec is legit right?

Are you guys going to extend this thread to 20 pages?
 
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#1 he always say he's getting ''grief'' it's a meme, he's not being serious. Go check all our videos, we are troll'ish.
#2 He did it on purpose if you aren't smart enough to understand the context go watch the vod.
#3 You guys are giving us a lot of attention without understand the bigger picture, again.
#4 Pretty sure Sundae was trying to prove a point.
#5 I guess 15 sec is legit right?

So logging out in the middle of a fight is ok if you do it 'on purpose'? That's an interesting suggestion...
 
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Even funnier to see legion of carebears screaming "cheater!" :D.

They are just sacrificing themselves to raise the problem of 'cheater-calling'.

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#5 I guess 15 sec is legit right?

Ha! Do you need me to quote what you said in previous threads, or are you going to do it yourself?

#5 PVP is part of the game, combat logging with the 15sec logging is no different from killing task when you are about to lose a ship in this particular situation.

kthxbai
 
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This ain't raising the profile and bringing CL'ing to FDs attention. This is simply logging on z4 and friends and that seems pretty lame in my books..
 
<snip> And going forward people will be logging on members with either a macro linking to this video or some macro saying they are doing it in support of this noble cause! =p
repped for the most delicious irony ever,,,,,
 
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#1 always says he's getting ''griefed'' it's a meme, he's not being serious. Go check some of his videos.
#2 He did it on purpose if you aren't smart enough to understand the context go watch the vod.
#3 I guess 15 sec is legit right?

Are you guys going to extend this thread to 20 pages?

Clearly he had no intention of combat logging until he realized he was going to die because he couldn't high wake, so it's obvious that this has nothing to do with making fd aware of combat logging, also it seems like he is saying to everyone who is going to lose a fight with should just log out and go to solo? Pretty sure would run out of smiles per gallon if that happened.
 
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Even funnier to see legion of carebears screaming "cheater!" :D.
Only they're not... they're just saying he's a hypocrite and it's exactly what we expected. It is The case in point, and the childish attempts to rationalise it after just drive it home until it's 6" out the other side.

I do think a lot would be solved with a junior player/member marker.
 
The actual issue here is that Frontier allowed a situation where it's possible for a player group which by all means deserves -and even asks for- trouble, to avoid any and all consequences by combat logging, and instead you guys are beating a dead horse by questioning the SDC's integrity, when that was certainly never one of their selling points.
Yet, the one that complained most about said situation are those that now do it themselves?
So, did I get that right:

Wing of 4 vs 1 PvP: Fair fight, making the game a challenge (if you are in the wing of 4)
Wing of 4 vs 1 PvP: "Griefing" (if you are not in the wing of 4)

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Exactly another point where I can just shake my head and laugh
Cant believe how thick people can be. You guys really think that Sundae would use combat logging (yeah, no difference for me- 15s or kill proces- same lame cheating) to save his ship? Well, if you are not interested in community and the game, maybe you do.

Look. FD does not care, we want them to start looking into this. Sundae is sacrificing himself to raise the problems of combat logging.

This knee-jerk reactions are both funny and sad at the same time :).
Wait wait, you are saying they are doing to to raise awareness of how bad combat logging is? just like they were trying to spread awareness on how speeding could be abused against victims by speeding and ramming their victims with pre damaged ships?

And note they do themselves as mentioned about go 4 v 1, and are fine with it, but when it comes around and hits them they are not? and call it griefing?

This at least to me doesn't make them come off as "trying to spread awareness"
But being upset that their fun is being ruined and reacting accordingly?
There are people that get actually griefed and this is nothing compared to that, and some of that is apparently caused by SDC, so to avoid griefing those people combat log.
So because people do that, and despite their own complaints against it, they are now going to claim griefing and combat log?

You do realize one of the two is an actual problem (the real griefing in case you don't), and the other is seemingly a spoiled child having a hissyfit?
 

Goose4291

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Going into a situation where he's knowingly outnumbered and legitimately logging out?

We've just found a whole new flavour of griefing!

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