The Open v Solo v Groups thread

SergMx

SergMx
varonica said:
Because it's a game that relies on players giving FDEV money and they don't want everyone who does PvE only from just walking away from an endless gankfest of epic proportions leaving on the small proportion of PvP players who wouldn't be enough to keep them running. To maximise player count and profit sometimes they have to do stuff that annoys a small group of players, c'est la vie!
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  • I.e. they want players to constantly struggle with bugs?
  • No, they don't either.
  • Why haven't they been fixing them for years?
  • Why would they? So now the beta will be in a live game.
  • Finish.

Maybe we should fix the ganker situation instead of just cutting it off. I think that if they really fixed the gankers, the online game would increase a lot and the number of sales would increase a lot.

P.S. I hope that when the developers look at the statistics of the game and see how many play in the open game, how many in PG and how many in the single game, they realize that some people in the single game play not because they want to, they were forced to play there because of the impossibility of another option.
 
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Darrack

Darrack
deleteduser said:
Wouldnt work, how?

It is a good idea.
The console legacy mode has proven it will work
The 3 three modes, as you firstly ignore then correctly recognise, dont give everyone what they want.

A good idea, that is proven to work and gives everyone what they want.... I'd plus one that everyday of the week.

Even the forums would be a better place.
No more C&P threads. No more ganker/griefer threads. No more seal-clubber threads. No more Open-Only threads...

Everyone wins.
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It wouldn't work because all actions effect the single galaxy, having two would be a nightmare.

O7
 

Rat Catcher

Rat Catcher
Darrack said:
having two would be a nightmare.
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But it would make those who consider BGS manipulation to be "gameplay par excellence" feel happier, secure in the knowledge that nobody 'hiding' in PG/Solo could interfere with their little bubble of 'control'...

Of course, timezones exist, so I guess folk 'hiding' in different timezones would mean that further server fragmentation would be needed to negate those possible unwanted interactions too!
 

varonica

varonica
Robert Maynard said:
... while at the same time wondering if someone was affecting "their" BGS from the other Open mode....
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Now there's an idea that just occurred to me, just ask players to select the mode they want and "pretend" to put them in a different server, but actually just group all the PvP players into a private group, but hide the mode selection option in the launcher so they think they are on a different server, job done!
 

Bigmaec

Bigmaec
varonica said:
Now there's an idea that just occurred to me, just ask players to select the mode they want and "pretend" to put them in a different server, but actually just group all the PvP players into a private group, but hide the mode selection option in the launcher so they think they are on a different server, job done!
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Or put them all (everyone!) silently together in open. Wouldn't that be fun?
 

varonica

varonica
Bigmaec said:
Or put them all (everyone!) silently together in open. Wouldn't that be fun?
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The point is, the PvP'ers could never tell whether they were in a separate server or not, but putting everyone silently in solo would be easily noticable by all the ganking, you see the point of my half in jest comment now?
 

Bigmaec

Bigmaec
varonica said:
The point is, the PvP'ers could never tell whether they were in a separate server or not, but putting everyone silently in solo would be easily noticable by all the ganking, you see the point of my half in jest comment now?
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The PvPers would notice it for the same reasons though, no easy ganking any more.
 

varonica

varonica
Bigmaec said:
The PvPers would notice it for the same reasons though, no easy ganking any more.
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You aren't getting it are you? It's a virtual PvP server, only PvP'ers will sign up for it, since only PvP'ers will sign up for it where do you think the easy ganking would come from? All those easy target are on the PvE server, that they have signed out of, never to sign into again.
 

Bigmaec

Bigmaec
varonica said:
You aren't getting it are you? It's a virtual PvP server, only PvP'ers will sign up for it, since only PvP'ers will sign up for it where do you think the easy ganking would come from? All those easy target are on the PvE server, that they have signed out of, never to sign into again.
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That's exactly what I mean, they would notice it the moment they don't see unshielded paperhulled T9s at CGs getting blown up.

My point was it's as unfair putting all the PvPers on one server without giving them a choice, as would be putting all PvErs on the same open server 🤷‍♂️

I don't advocate any changes to the modes.
 

varonica

varonica
Bigmaec said:
My point was it's as unfair putting all the PvPers on one server without giving them a choice, as would be putting all PvErs on the same open server 🤷‍♂️
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Nor do I, but someone asked for a separate PvP server and galaxy I said we could give them a virtual one that would for all intents and purposes be one they coudln't tell apart from an actual separate galaxy and server, and they could opt in and only play among fellow PvP'ers, that's what they want right? I never said anything about not giving them a choice, they would have to ask to be transferred to the PvP server, and PvE'ers can stay on the PvE server.

Here's where I said they would have to ask to be moved to the PvP server;

varonica said:
just ask players to select the mode they want and "pretend" to put them in a different server,
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They would never be able to tell the difference.
 

Brrokk

Brrokk
Darrack said:
It wouldn't work because all actions effect the single galaxy, having two would be a nightmare.

O7
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It would be a nightmare. Imagine if the present lockdown at the CG happened in one server but not the other. Would FD extend the CG or not? Or would separate CGs happen in the two servers?

I think anything that multiplies FD's GM work like that is a non-starter. They don't have enough resource for such things as it is.
 
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Robert Maynard

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Robert Maynard
Brrokk said:
It would be the PvE one as it would have much larger population. This has happened in every game which split off a PvP server.
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... which would cause even more complaint from those who already don't accept that players in Solo and Private Groups can affect their BGS & Powerplay - as the one that they could affect wouldn't be canon....
 
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