The shareholders are partially responsible ?

No not to my knowledge, my guess is above 20% but I don’t know.

Anyone with voting shares gets a say and most common shares include voting rights. Of course, whatever you vote for has to be the most popular decision that reaches a certain threshold of votes to be enacted.

I still get mail sent out to shareholders for various companies begging me to cast my vote on some issue or another, even if I only hold a tiny fraction of those companies...often as little as a few hundred shares for companies that have millions of shares outstanding.
 
Most individuals want to retire early and invest in all kinds of retirement packages and other places. Most of which have no say as to where their investment is going. Whom among you have ever really read the perspective that every retirement package comes with. I get a kick out of individuals who are against a, b, c corporation, but don't know that their retirement in part is investing their money in the very corp their against.
Any and all companies or corporations who accept investors, have to answer to the investors and the answer better be a positive or no more investors. Frontier is one such company.
 
So, how does one aquire shares in frontier?

It's a publicly traded company, so any stock broker or etrading platform should suffice.

If we all buy shares we can force their hand, right?

You're essentially talking about a hostile takeover.

You can only buy available shares and even if you were able to get a significant stake this way (which would inflate share price and thus your costs), you'd still have vote in new directors, nominate new officers, and there would be all sorts of hurdles along the way before you had a say in day to day operations. On top of that, some of these hurdles may well be 'poison pills' that could make it unprofitable to take the company from it's current owners, or even windup bankrupting the company.
 
I stand to be corrected, but i think frontiers shares have been declining in value for a long time now.
Wouldn't this make them easier to purchase?
@Morbad , that's why I said if we all buy shares. But I don't understand much about anything higher than common lower class american activities. Stock exchange is pretty far out of my understanding of the world so don't think I'm being intentionally ignorant
 
@Morbad , that's why I said if we all buy shares. But I don't understand much about anything higher than common lower class american activities. Stock exchange is pretty far out of my understanding of the world so don't think I'm being intentionally ignorant

There are only a given number of shares issued and shares can only be purchased if someone is trying to sell them...if supply dries up all you can do (without a direct buyout offer to those currently controlling the corporation) is throw higher bid orders in and hope someone will want to sell you shares at a price you can afford to pay. All of us buying shares wouldn't make much of a difference other than spreading the cost around and making it hard to coordinate.

I took your questions seriously...most people don't have any experience with markets unless they've worked in finance or like a hands-on approach with their investments.
 
Buying stock isn't even an option since Braben has enough stock to quash any stock holder revolt. A hostile takeover is a posibility but you need real money to do that. Sorry your only choices is to give up or dig in.
 
Wouldn't this make them easier to purchase?

Well it might do but you are losing money all the time they are dropping. Obviously im thinking from that point of view. Not like i know anything about shares either :) Get in at the start, thats where you can make a few quid. Get in early and sell quick before the hype and value starts going down.

Buying stock isn't even an option since Braben has enough stock to quash any stock holder revolt. A hostile takeover is a posibility but you need real money to do that. Sorry your only choices is to give up or dig in.


Fact check it but i think braben got like 31% or something.
 
Well so far this community has blamed:
  • Ourselves
  • A select group who stated they speak for us
  • FDdev naturally
  • FD management
  • EDIT: Tencent (thanks go to Commander Factabulous for reminding me :D)
  • Other games made by Frontier
And now the shareholders. Is there anyone left we haven't blamed for this mess?
Blame it on me ... that I pass it on to my dog and he will just turn around and sleep :)
 

Viajero

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Well so far this community has blamed:
  • Ourselves
  • A select group who stated they speak for us
  • FDdev naturally
  • FD management
  • EDIT: Tencent (thanks go to Commander Factabulous for reminding me :D)
  • Other games made by Frontier
And now the shareholders. Is there anyone left we haven't blamed for this mess?

The sunshine?
 
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