The Size Issue, and others
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Even worse with the size of the new dinos...
I generally think it’s tine to put this game to bed, till I see some fixes, I mean crew 2 beta, new sea of thieves stuff coming out soon brigantine and Man ‘o’ war can’t wait to see them both, got up coming Stellaris news/ patch / possible dlc... and last but not least BFA to consume my life for the foreseeable future..
It's going to made a lot of you angry but, I think, after a lot of thought because it's important for me too, that the spino size is fine, maybe the T-rex of JW is simply bigger, i don't even mind if it's because of universal who want it to be the super predator and hit on the nostalgia, this is the universe of JP guys, this is how it's suppose to be, the T-rex is really a beautiful beast in this game and they did a super cool spino as well, his animations are magnificient, and i love the roar (the reals ones, of JP3) that he makes sometimes. He is the N°3 in term of size here, that's fine. T-rex being the N°1, maybe the indominus is sligtly bigger but definitily not enough in comparison, But just look at the sizes in ingen database, they're consistent with the sizes of the dinosaurs in game (but definitely not the weight [weird] )
But for real, the giga size is nonsense. He should be 14m and 5m tall too
But for real, the giga size is nonsense. He should be 14m and 5m tall too
Well - it is highly likely that Frontier based the Carnotaurus and Baryonyx as well as the other Fallen Kingdom dinosaurs on their movie stats - which are a bit different from their real life stats.
- Baryonyx - in JW:FK is listed at about 9.3 meters/30.5 feet long, 3 meters/9.8 feet tall.
- which is the ball park for the real Baryonyx - of 8.5-10 meters/28-33 feet long.
- Carnotaurus - in JW: FK is listed at about 10.4 feet/34 feet long, 3- 3.5 meters/9.8-11.5 feet tall, 3-4 tons.
- the real Carnotaurus is usually estimated at 8-9 meters/26-29.5 feet long, weighing 1.5-2 metric tons
- Sinoceratops - in JW: FK is listed at about 8 meters/26.2 feet and weighing about 6 tons.
- the real Sinoceratops is usually estimated at about 6.1 meters, weighing 3-4 tons. It is likely Sinoceratops was upsized and based on it's relative Pachyrhinosaurus - which is known to have reached 8 meters/26 feet and weighed about 6 tons.
Stygimoloch - similar is size to Dracorex
Allosaurus - in the movie was a juvenile/sub-adult like similar to "Big Al" in size - about 7-8 meters/23-26 feet long
Emphasis on possibly.
Ok so let’s make it clear you think T-Rex biggest, closely followed by the Giganotosaurus? Then the Spinosaurs? In that order?
Must be that InGen where using that new species of Spinosaurus, the S.Bullcrappimus...
And that new species of Giganotosaurus... G.Minimus...
And the new Tyrannosaurid called Tyrannagodzillamaximus Universalis Rex
Aka total nonsense... if you’ve read any of them former posts people have even given consise information gathered from official Jurassic Park/World media the clearly states theat the InGen Spinosaurus is a lot bigger than Even Rexy... and I find the notion that a Giganotosaurus that is anything less than the exact same length and hight as a T.Rex ( not weight however because T.Rex was a much heavier built dinosaur) absolutely rediculus....
http://islanublar.jurassicworld.com/dinosaurs/tyrannosaurus-rex/
There’s also a nice guid at the bottom showing the size difference between Suchomimus and Baryonyx
http://jurassicpark.wikia.com/wiki/Spinosaurus
http://jurassicpark.wikia.com/wiki/Tyrannosaurus_rex/Film
http://jurassicpark.wikia.com/wiki/Giganotosaurus
Throw them both on there as comparisons aswell just as some light reading
So there we are Spinosaurus should be tallest and longest of the none hybrids obviously Indominus is 50ft long so she’s the longest but Spinosaurus is still taller.
Giganotosaurus & Tyrannosaurus Rex should be roughly the same hight but Giganotosaurus is longer by 2ft at least.
I might add I’m a massive T-Rex fan but in my opinion the ridiculousness of the Tyrannosaurus in this game currently makes me hate it.... it doesn’t need to be so preposterously over sized... to make it look cool, it already is cool, and it kicking the crap out of a full sized Spinosaurus or Giganotosaurus would only make it feel that much better
any way I genuinely meant no offence with my stupid naming of the dinosaurs earlier in my post it was all meant in good fun and tongue in cheek
Thank you
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First of all, in both real life and the third film Spinosaurus is larger than Tyrannosaurus (length in both and depending on which of the five hundred speculations you believe its design was in and also in the third movie height as well). The T. rex in JPIII may have been retconned into a sub-adult but Rexy/Roberta would still be smaller even if not by much. Giganotosaurus was definitely both longer and taller than Tyrannosaurus, but not as heavily built, being gracile in contrasy to Rexy's robust build.
Allosaurus was much smaller than any of them, being on average 28 feet in length with one specimen being 32 feet.
Even Indominus rex, who was larger than Rexy/Roberta in the film, is the same size if not a little bit smaller than the T. rex in Evolution. Also the Ceratosaurus in Evolution is grossly oversized, the largest known specimen we have is in blue:
It really feels like a heaping helping of favoritism and pandering towards Rex and Cerato in the game. Don't get me wrong, I like them both, but they don't need to be hugely oversized to be awesome and the other theropods really don't need to be shrunk just so Rex and Cerato can seem so much better than them.
Nicely done
and I offered the JP media stats for the three main dinos aswell if people would like to see the differences between real life and JP media.. I do also feel that contrary to the design path taken by frontier to make the dinosaurs adhere to the JP media if they where ever present within it, I do think they should be modified somewhat to be somewhere between the real life and JP media statistics.... going on JP media Allosaurus is taller than a T-Rex but only 1/4 it’s weight...
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I found this on Internet:
The problem is T-rex's size.
In film, Rexy is 13,4m long.
Spinosaurus is 13.3m long. (smaller real Spinosaurus which are estimated 14-16m)
Jurassic Park 3's T-rex os 11.3m long (this size is smaller real T-rex).
So, if T-rex's size bases on Rexy's size, it will be same size with 13.3m Spinosaurus in film and smaller 15m Spinosaurus in game (you can see in game data base).
if T-rex's size base on real T-rex'size (about 12.5-13m), it will be smaller film's Spino and much smaller JWE's Spino.
of course, T-rex must be smaller than young Indominus rex in film and aldult Indominus rex in game (15.5m in data base)
And what you saw in game is: T-rex is much bigger than 15m Spinosaurus, much bulkier than 15.5m Indominus.
The problem is T-rex's size.
In film, Rexy is 13,4m long.
Spinosaurus is 13.3m long. (smaller real Spinosaurus which are estimated 14-16m)
Jurassic Park 3's T-rex os 11.3m long (this size is smaller real T-rex).
So, if T-rex's size bases on Rexy's size, it will be same size with 13.3m Spinosaurus in film and smaller 15m Spinosaurus in game (you can see in game data base).
if T-rex's size base on real T-rex'size (about 12.5-13m), it will be smaller film's Spino and much smaller JWE's Spino.
of course, T-rex must be smaller than young Indominus rex in film and aldult Indominus rex in game (15.5m in data base)
And what you saw in game is: T-rex is much bigger than 15m Spinosaurus, much bulkier than 15.5m Indominus.
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As I have said before - the dinosaur skeletons we see in museums - are just fossilized bones, not actual living dinosaurs, - at least not in the past 66 million years.
By comparison - the dinosaurs of the Jurassic Park/World series are "living Breathing Dinosaurs" or at least their version of them. They have skin, muscles, tendons, & cartilage on those bones. Which explains why the dinosaurs are different in size from their real world skeletal counterparts.
In addition - the size of the dinosaurs in JWE - should be based on the dinosaurs from the JP/JW series - not the real world skeletons.
As for the JP3 Spinosaurus - Rexy from Jurassic World comparisons. Remember - as we learned recently (from info provided by the Dinosaur Protection Group) - the Spinosaurus was created by shortly after Masrani Global took over - In perpetration for the building of Jurassic World, And while it was an adult Spinosaurus - it was not fully grown, much like Rexy was in original Jurassic Park.
It is safe to assume that Rexy is fully grown, and near maximum size in Jurassic World & Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom.
So we can assume - a fully grown JP/JW Spinosaurus should be - about 14.6-14.9 meters/48-49 feet long, 6.7-7 meters/22-23feet tall (at top of spines), and about 12-13 tons.
Giganotosaurus - should be slightly longer than Rexy - about 13.7-14 meters/45-46 feet, but also slightly shorter in height - at about 4.6-4.9 meters/15-16 feet, and about 1 ton less (around 8-9 tons).
In addition - Giganoto
By comparison - the dinosaurs of the Jurassic Park/World series are "living Breathing Dinosaurs" or at least their version of them. They have skin, muscles, tendons, & cartilage on those bones. Which explains why the dinosaurs are different in size from their real world skeletal counterparts.
In addition - the size of the dinosaurs in JWE - should be based on the dinosaurs from the JP/JW series - not the real world skeletons.
As for the JP3 Spinosaurus - Rexy from Jurassic World comparisons. Remember - as we learned recently (from info provided by the Dinosaur Protection Group) - the Spinosaurus was created by shortly after Masrani Global took over - In perpetration for the building of Jurassic World, And while it was an adult Spinosaurus - it was not fully grown, much like Rexy was in original Jurassic Park.
It is safe to assume that Rexy is fully grown, and near maximum size in Jurassic World & Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom.
So we can assume - a fully grown JP/JW Spinosaurus should be - about 14.6-14.9 meters/48-49 feet long, 6.7-7 meters/22-23feet tall (at top of spines), and about 12-13 tons.
Giganotosaurus - should be slightly longer than Rexy - about 13.7-14 meters/45-46 feet, but also slightly shorter in height - at about 4.6-4.9 meters/15-16 feet, and about 1 ton less (around 8-9 tons).
In addition - Giganoto
paleostudent
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Lol no one bothered my post they just still continue with wrong infos ........
Giga is not longer then a rex we never found one. Cerato is not to big its simply the biger species that exists. Spino is very accurate jp3 like. Rex is oversized in JP so in the game too wh8ich is absolutely fine.
you guys should relly stop talking about stuff you dont know aynthing about. I will disprove any beliefs you ´´heard´´. The only thing that matters are published papers.
so again Biggest trex 12.4m heres no Giga that is longer then this........its a myth that its bigger because of a jaw fragment but its not true untill we find an actual bigger fossil.
Its based of a movie/book. No one cares really its a minority of kids because size will not add any gameplay relevant thing think about it. You are simply taking away ressources from frontier if you want to make them again for literally nothing since as i said it will bring nothing to the game itself let tzhem concentrate on more important things please.
No show me the giga so i can disprove you with officially published stuff and not internet made up nonsense.
Giga is not longer then a rex we never found one. Cerato is not to big its simply the biger species that exists. Spino is very accurate jp3 like. Rex is oversized in JP so in the game too wh8ich is absolutely fine.
you guys should relly stop talking about stuff you dont know aynthing about. I will disprove any beliefs you ´´heard´´. The only thing that matters are published papers.
so again Biggest trex 12.4m heres no Giga that is longer then this........its a myth that its bigger because of a jaw fragment but its not true untill we find an actual bigger fossil.
Its based of a movie/book. No one cares really its a minority of kids because size will not add any gameplay relevant thing think about it. You are simply taking away ressources from frontier if you want to make them again for literally nothing since as i said it will bring nothing to the game itself let tzhem concentrate on more important things please.
No show me the giga so i can disprove you with officially published stuff and not internet made up nonsense.
paleostudent
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Show me the trex that was bigger then 12,4m oh you cant because it didnt exist. so where do you came from with 12,5 - 13m?
paleostudent
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All posts are hevily wrong. Allo there are specimesn 12m even ones bigger then trex. (but that are just fragments. Cerato there are specimens 9-11m there is a bigger species than that that you linked you choosed the common known ceratosaurus but theres a much bigger one look it up.
That's a lot of words to agree with us that the dinosaurs need resizing.
paleostudent
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https://franoys.deviantart.com/art/Giant-predatory-dinosaurs-comparison-616409616
here boys and girls accurate.(forget the spino since we dont know anything about it). These are all based on the biggest ones found fragments estimated with a technique GDI.
here boys and girls accurate.(forget the spino since we dont know anything about it). These are all based on the biggest ones found fragments estimated with a technique GDI.
paleostudent
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Not at allhes wrong and wasting ressources for size doesnt help the game at all its just your imagination of something completely wrong. They should concentrate on more important stuff. Because this is not important at all.
That "Allosaurus" is the Saurophaganax Maximus. It's known by a few bones of at least four individuals and has an estimated length between 11 and 13 m. Since there is not so much fossils from them, there is some paleontologist have the theory that Saurophaganax is not a different species, they list them as very big Allosaurus or a subspecies, Allosaurus Maximus.
You don't need to argue with him. He can not distinguish between Saurophaganax and Allosaurus, and as he said: "All posts are hevily wrong".
If everything is right, then we aren't here to discuss (not argue)
Ok so let’s make it clear you think T-Rex biggest, closely followed by the Giganotosaurus? Then the Spinosaurs? In that order?
Must be that InGen where using that new species of Spinosaurus, the S.Bullcrappimus...
And that new species of Giganotosaurus... G.Minimus...
And the new Tyrannosaurid called Tyrannagodzillamaximus Universalis Rex
Aka total nonsense... if you’ve read any of them former posts people have even given consise information gathered from official Jurassic Park/World media the clearly states theat the InGen Spinosaurus is a lot bigger than Even Rexy... and I find the notion that a Giganotosaurus that is anything less than the exact same length and hight as a T.Rex ( not weight however because T.Rex was a much heavier built dinosaur) absolutely rediculus....
http://islanublar.jurassicworld.com/dinosaurs/tyrannosaurus-rex/
There’s also a nice guid at the bottom showing the size difference between Suchomimus and Baryonyx
http://jurassicpark.wikia.com/wiki/Spinosaurus
http://jurassicpark.wikia.com/wiki/Tyrannosaurus_rex/Film
http://jurassicpark.wikia.com/wiki/Giganotosaurus
Throw them both on there as comparisons aswell just as some light reading
So there we are Spinosaurus should be tallest and longest of the none hybrids obviously Indominus is 50ft long so she’s the longest but Spinosaurus is still taller.
Giganotosaurus & Tyrannosaurus Rex should be roughly the same hight but Giganotosaurus is longer by 2ft at least.
I might add I’m a massive T-Rex fan but in my opinion the ridiculousness of the Tyrannosaurus in this game currently makes me hate it.... it doesn’t need to be so preposterously over sized... to make it look cool, it already is cool, and it kicking the crap out of a full sized Spinosaurus or Giganotosaurus would only make it feel that much better
any way I genuinely meant no offence with my stupid naming of the dinosaurs earlier in my post it was all meant in good fun and tongue in cheek
Thank you
Was expecting that, having an hangover i'll try to explain my point that you clearly missed here,
my point that is : this is how it's supposed to be, the T-rex of JW (evolution) is made bigger than the others t-rex of JP and rexy too. and when you see the sizes :5m for the T-rex. That's the tallest of all the theropods in the game. They wanted to make the t-rex more impressive. That's clearly favoritism but we souldn't care that much. T-rex is taller the spino is 15m he is longer than the t-rex.Plus when in read some posts of paleo student that says that the giga was maybe smaller than the T-rex, then maybe it's true. I believed that was the opposite but well there is not a lot of giganotosaurus fossils so...thats only speculations.
Look, thoses are the creatures of Universal studios.
Being a fan of the JP3 spinosaurus, i can say that they made him a legit No3 in term of size. And for the ceratosaurus he is like in JP3 movie too. The indominus is the right size because rexy is smaller than the JWE T-rex. My hypothesis is that They pumped the T-rex in JWE like the indominus was to be "bigger than the T-rex" yep, a T-rex bigger than the t-rex.
All right,
See ya