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Your whole argument is you want to engage, now you're saying 'don;t touch my stuff'. What your saying is you only validate the influence on the BGS/PP that you approve of. How can you justify that?
Your influence on the galaxy is fine with me. I encourage it. Play and do anything you wish. I will applaud your achievements. Just don;t attempt to tell me how to play. I think that is immensely fair. C'est la vie.
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Again, you say you have no issue with galaxy being out of your control, but want to directly counteract. If it irks you that you can't directly counteract than you do have an issue with not having control over the galaxy. Otherwise you wouldn't have any issue with Solo and group influencing the BGS as Open influences it.
Who has the burden of proof? Traditionally, it's in those who seek change, rather than those who are content with the status quo.
Anyway, to revert the logic back to what you're deriving your unsupported assertions from:
The simple fact that this thread exists proves that people are often forced into solo by the negative and unprovoked actions of players that insist on the validity and value of their game play above other players. You either understand this or you don't. It's odd that you bring up being a child, because an insistence of being treated as if you are special, without consideration for others or understanding how your negative behaviors that come as a consequence of those actions is a childish trait.
Time and time again, those who wish to see solo have features removed or content barred from it or other penalties applied to those who play that way, don't actually address the fact that open mode and the behavior of a minority of players in that mode is wholly, entirely responsible for the alleged 'ghost town' that open has become. All attempts to close solo or force players into open if they want to have any impact on the background sim or to engage in conflict to please those who intentionally seek it out won't make players engage in conflict or jump into open or be happy about what's happened, it simply turns players into non-players. Short term you will get a surge of numbers, but very quickly you'll end up back with the same situation you have now except FD has to deal with all the solo players having gone off to play Oolite.
Solo did not kill open, solo just means more players can play a game they paid for and deserve to enjoy in the same way that players in open deserve to enjoy. However, nothing I paid for says I am responsible for being part of another someone's game experience. That you can't understand that is just childish. Oh, see what I did there? Now that we have that out of our system perhaps we can continue this discussion without any more name-calling on any side? Or, y'know, just start talking about bacon, drinking games and cats. This thread is so much more peaceful and fun when we do that. Grumble.
So, as I suggested, the trouble stems from you not getting what you want. It's not about bettering the game, but just increasing your immediate pleasure. That can't be enough of a reason for a fundamental change in game design.
Unless my entire comprehension of the English language has gone out the window I think you have a contradiction here. I get that you want to be able to shoot random people, but could we get some consistency?
Either you don't care about the influence of others or you do. You don't get to have it both ways.
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yes, the more he posts the better i like it.
"i'm out here clubbing baby seals and i don't even harvest anything from them. i just like to watch them cry and die."
Then why are you arguing for change again? It would seem to me that you should be happy with the status quo. You claim you're happy with no control and yet here we are.
What benefit to open do you expect if the modes didn't affect each other?
you seem to have a number in mind for how many griefers are acceptable in open.
how many is that?
And you just post reasons for open to be entirely removed from the game altogether. See how baseless accusations and mistaking personal opinion for logical argument makes for fun conversation and valuable debate?
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BACON.
you are trying to take a game that is a certain way, and change it to what you think is more fun, ignoring everyone who bought the game and having fun with it just the way it is.
You like them there that is your right, others don't and leave open, and others in open complain there is no one there anymore, or they can't find people to shoot at.
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Numbers don't prove much. If you want to account for numbers, count up all of the players that play in Group, and Solo for a glimpse at how many disagree with you.
Trying to change the fundamental game is not a "concern". And you have your open mode as others have PVE. BGS isnt' changing both will effect
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don't forget how many play in open and disagree with him as well
OH THANK GOD YOU CAME ALONG!!! I CAN STOP READING THIS THREAD NOW!!!
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actually this has been said many times in the 21K + messages in this thread.
and i am still here.
i am convinced i must be out of my mind.
I don't see how that would happen. Is the connection with groups and the BGS/PP that strong? The players that don't play in open now wouldn't suddenly say, I need open play. They would just play the BGS/PP within Solo/Group. The only thing that would change is the influence each side would create would not show up on the other's BGS. Does you proposal mean to leave the Solo/Group players without a BGS/PP? That would certainly be a non-starter.
You brought up numbers, not me. I'd be glad to leave that issue out of the debate.
I agree, solo mode is there so that if you get too fed up with boneheads, you can leave them too it. also maybe if people realize that there behavior will take away a source for of credts for them ( if they are pirates) then they might think more about there behavior, or maybe others will change it for them.
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