Modes The Solo vs Open vs Groups Thread - Mk III

Do you want a Open PvE

  • Yes, I want a Open PvE

    Votes: 54 51.4%
  • No, I don't want a Open PvE

    Votes: 49 46.7%
  • I want only Open PvE and PvP only in groups

    Votes: 2 1.9%

  • Total voters
    105
  • Poll closed .
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Hmm... not really up to scratch, those two! They really should try harder - if you're going to insult someone, at least do it with style!

Currently the best set: cowardly, cheating, filthy, casual, ignorant, risk-averse, mode-switching, misanthropic, Solo players!

You need to add militant in there!
 
Hmm... not really up to scratch, those two! They really should try harder - if you're going to insult someone, at least do it with style!

Currently the best set: cowardly, cheating, filthy, casual, ignorant, risk-averse, mode-switching, misanthropic, Solo players!

I would never use those words lol. Casual does not seem so bad a word though, did not realise that was offensive. Mode-Switching just sounds...factual. I prefer the term "Commander" it is the most respectful.
 
I left out the part that people do this in open because it doesn't need to be said, doesn't change anything, and is subject to different factors than doing it in solo/private.

If, for some mind boggling reason, a person decides to merit grind for the sole purpose of getting rewards in open play then they can be opposed and any effect they would have had on PP (positive or negative) possibly negated - at least for that moment, until they either start grinding again (and possibly stopped again) or go into solo/private.

http://puu.sh/k5MXb/e1c6d287a7.jpg

The proof you so desire. I'll be happy to explain what this means if for some reason you can't discern it on your own.


I would love if you were to explain to me in the image.. where it say what mode each person who contributed to it was in. And what instance, if they were on the PC or X-box, and so on.

What you gave was not proof of anything relating to what you 'claim"
 
Open PvE logic: Yeah, let's grind without any danger, get anaconda and say "this game is boring! don't buy it!".


Where is "just delete solo/groups" option? ( fix everything option ).
Really, it's stupid. PvP are only long therm interesting thing in this game. CQC are just quake in space.
If you know how to escape even open are elite: dangerless.


How do you imagine that? It will be immersion-breaker. Let us play our way - I want to be a pirate!

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Option 3, it is only one guy, He is no threat to us, yet. We are watching him though...

Maybe he selected option 3 accidentally?
 
Open PvE logic: Yeah, let's grind without any danger, get anaconda and say "this game is boring! don't buy it!".


Where is "just delete solo/groups" option? ( fix everything option ).
Really, it's stupid. PvP are only long therm interesting thing in this game. CQC are just quake in space.
If you know how to escape even open are elite: dangerless.


How do you imagine that? It will be immersion-breaker. Let us play our way - I want to be a pirate!

To be fair, if it was going to offer an option to delete PvP from open, it should have offered an option to delete solo/private mode. I would not really be in favor of this, but the option SHOULD have been the in the interests of fairness. Especially since it involves deleting content that the game was sold with, as opposed to content that never existed (offline mode).

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Open PvE logic: Yeah, let's grind without any danger, get anaconda and say "this game is boring! don't buy it!".


Where is "just delete solo/groups" option? ( fix everything option ).
Really, it's stupid. PvP are only long therm interesting thing in this game. CQC are just quake in space.
If you know how to escape even open are elite: dangerless.


How do you imagine that? It will be immersion-breaker. Let us play our way - I want to be a pirate!

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Maybe he selected option 3 accidentally?

No he is serious. But he admits he is being radical, so can't really argue with him, it is his opinion.
 
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no.

i really don't want player-cmdr not being able to do what npc can. i want to be pirated by npc, i want to be pirated by players.

and the other way round.

this includes: give player the possibility to play system security and tools for bounty hunting, and make the galaxy as dangerous for peole who do pVp-combat as it is for people who do pWp.
 
Wonder how long this one will last. Mine got shut down on the first day when I tried this. Oh excuse me... second day.
 
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As long as the discussion remains benign...it should be ok. If the discussion goes to dark and unsavory places...it will get shut down.
 
"Cody, get the check list out - We've had "easier", now "hide" is being thrown out here."

What is wrong with using these words lol? By hide I refer to people who play in open and the duck into solo to avoid combat. Totally legit way to play. Are FD against this?

"It meant they didn't want a PR disaster with people claiming mode switching was cheating "

I don;t think it is cheating. I am fine with people who want to go into solo.

"I'd love to play the game my way, but my mode is not in game yet"

Well, the game mode I wanted was in before I bought it.

"until then - I've been lied to by FD "

Okay then. that is your opinion. But it has nothing to do with me, I got what was on the tin.

As I said, if you'd done a shred of research you'd have known some simple things.

Open advocates being offensive by way of calling non open players [See the list by Cody above].
Also accusations of "hiding" and being cowards in "easy mode" are thrown about almost weekly.

Whether you think it is cheating or not - FD had to hold both competitions in Open only. They had no choice as the accusations and backlash would have been insane.
It had nothing to do with any mode being better / favored / preferred etc. And you know what, most Solo players and Group players were fine with it - they are not trying to push their agendas on others.

Oh and I thought my preferred game style was available when I bought the game, quite a few of us did.
CODE however proved us all wrong there with their Mobius Group killing spree (which I asked your opinion on and you've not answered).
There is no PvE mode here yet, as any multiplayer mode allows forced PvP and FD did nothing about what happened - not even a simple message to acknowledge what happened (as far a I am aware).
I can only assume they don't give a monkeys about it.

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I've voted.

No idea why, but I have.
 
So if they know the poll will be shut down, why post it? Why would it be shut down? Is it some form of protest or something?
There is solo vs group vs open thread. 3 of them... If devs reading them they doing it with popcorn. You know, like good Z class comedy...
 
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So if they know the poll will be shut down, why post it? Why would it be shut down? Is it some form of protest or something?

Protest...protest...that's what we need!

Occupy Open! That's it! All the PVE people that want to protest go to open at Hutton orbital! Demand the Open be PVE only! We can do this...let's go folks! Outside Hutton Orbital. CQC FOR PVP! OPEN FOR PVE!
 
Sorry didn't read the full thread, and it has probably been mentioned a hundred times, but there is an open PVE and it's called Mobius.
Why add a new option in the menu when this group has been there right from the start?

If the group disappears, well then I vote yes.
 
Protest...protest...that's what we need!

Occupy Open! That's it! All the PVE people that want to protest go to open at Hutton orbital! Demand the Open be PVE only! We can do this...let's go folks! Outside Hutton Orbital. CQC FOR PVP! OPEN FOR PVE!

We will be waiting, with a lot of ammo. I'd like to see something like this!
 
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As I said, if you'd done a shred of research you'd have known some simple things.

Open advocates being offensive by way of calling non open players [See the list by Cody above].
Also accusations of "hiding" and being cowards in "easy mode" are thrown about almost weekly.

Whether you think it is cheating or not - FD had to hold both competitions in Open only. They had no choice as the accusations and backlash would have been insane.
It had nothing to do with any mode being better / favored / preferred etc. And you know what, most Solo players and Group players were fine with it - they are not trying to push their agendas on others.

Oh and I thought my preferred game style was available when I bought the game, quite a few of us did.
CODE however proved us all wrong there with their Mobius Group killing spree (which I asked your opinion on and you've not answered).
There is no PvE mode here yet, as any multiplayer mode allows forced PvP and FD did nothing about what happened - not even a simple message to acknowledge what happened (as far a I am aware).
I can only assume they don't give a monkeys about it.

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I've voted.

No idea why, but I have.

"As I said, if you'd done a shred of research you'd have known some simple things."

That is cool, but all of this research amounts to...what? I am still another Commander who plays Elite Dangrous, and who is happy with hi sgame. What more do I need to "research"?

"And you know what, most Solo players and Group players were fine with it - they are not trying to push their agendas on others."

That is also cool. I agree, don;t push agendas on people. We follow the devs, and should be happy if they take our suggestions on board.

"Whether you think it is cheating or not - FD had to hold both competitions in Open only."

I was just making a point, not trying to open up a whole discussion about it, it seems kind of offtopic. Either way, I never mentioned "cheating" at all, just made the observation there were Open only events in the past, and that I personally would like to see MORE in the future. Nothing wrong with that is there?

"Oh and I thought my preferred game style was available when I bought the game, quite a few of us did."

Did it actually say there was a PvE open mode? Either way, I am sorry to hear you are not satisfied with the game.

"multiplayer mode allows forced PvP and FD did nothing about what happened" " I can only assume they don't give a monkeys about it."

It must be their current vision for the game. I am in favor of it anyway, forced PvP in Open. They should put a trigger warning on it though, so people know they may get attacked by other players. Though to be honest you can get attacked and killed by NPC's, so they should put appropriate warnings on each gamemode. A lot of people seem to be claiming they were not aware of the risks of playing Open. That would solve the issue. I think they DO care, as evidenced by all the work they are doing. Just because the game is different to the one you want to play, does not mean they "don't give a monkeys".

"Open advocates being offensive by way of calling non open players [See the list by Cody above].
Also accusations of "hiding" and being cowards in "easy mode" are thrown about almost weekly."

That has nothing to do with me. I said that I thought the game was "easier" in Open, especially around the core worlds. It is my opinion, not a dig at anyone. I am fine with all modes of gameplay. I also said I had no problem with hiding from combat using solo, and never used it in the pejorative. Either way, my comments are honest ones.
 
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People want PvP well CQC gives ya that. Though that leaves roles like priate's and bounty hunters in the lurch since all they could do then is go after npc's.

May get FD to fix NPC loot tables then.
A T9 with 10T of bio waste would never happen - yet NPCs do it all the time.
That needs a major fix so NPC piracy becomes a viable source of income

Really, it's stupid. PvP are only long therm interesting thing in this game.

Really, battle of who has the most SCBs is interesting to you?
Cause it bores the snot out of me.

NPCs at least have random gear fitted and use it, not just 5 banks of SCBs and run away after 30 seconds.
Heck even the Hutton CG in Solo has been more fun than that poor excuse for PvP in this game.

Get a true PvE mode and SJA back at the NPC controls and I'll be a happy man :)
 
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