Modes The Solo vs Open vs Groups Thread - Part the Second [Now With Added Platforms].

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Last I heard, the Devs had turned off the 4k (Alt + F10) screenshots in Open, as it was causing lag.
Not seen a patch note saying it was back on, so are you sure on that? (going to test this myself btw)

The Debug camera is available in Open. You can only take 4k Pics in Private. F10 lets you take screenies in the current rez in Open. These are two different systems.
 
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Because you potentially affect CG and PP in open. It's only fair.

I doubt I will ever get to understand those people who buy a product which advertises "feature X", and then constantly whines that they do not like "feature X" and it needs to be removed... esp when a huge part of the customer base feel it is vital.

Imagine if I bought Eve and said.... no sorry guys, the guilds have got to go, its not fair for the lone wolf.
 
Wouldn't the exact same thing be said by a Private mode player? Your play in Open messes up my system in Private?
On the contrary, your private messes up open. Anyone can play and compete with anyone else in open. Private, like solo, unbalances the game.
 
I doubt I will ever get to understand those people who buy a product which advertises "feature X", and then constantly whines that they do not like "feature X" and it needs to be removed... esp when a huge part of the customer base feel it is vital.

Imagine if I bought Eve and said.... no sorry guys, the guilds have got to go, its not fair for the lone wolf.
All I ask for is segregation.
 
On the contrary, your private messes up open. Anyone can play and compete with anyone else in open. Private, like solo, unbalances the game.

You might want to back that truck up. I only play Open, except when the game design forces me into Private. What I do understand is the reasons for the existence of the Private modes and have aligned my expectation with this fact. No one is going to change the way the game is designed at this point. There COULD be some minor adjustments to make things a little fairer between the modes...however, until...or if this even occurs, this is the way the game is made and plays.

There are only two choices...accept the design choice and work it into your gameplay or walk away. Any other choice will leave you frustrated and enlarge this thread to 10k posts by mid July....and have no effect on the design decision. Enjoy the merry go round until you realize the truth that modality is here to stay.
 
Yeah, you Open players with your multiple wings of friends who trivialise all content. Or something.;)

Ding! It's all trivial content....our ability to assign importance to trivial matters...a hallmark of Human behavior...


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You might want to back that truck up. I only play Open, except when the game design forces me into Private. What I do understand is the reasons for the existence of the Private modes and have aligned my expectation with this fact. No one is going to change the way the game is designed at this point. There COULD be some minor adjustments to make things a little fairer between the modes...however, until...or if this even occurs, this is the way the game is made and plays.

There are only two choices...accept the design choice and work it into your gameplay or walk away. Any other choice will leave you frustrated and enlarge this thread to 10k posts by mid July....and have no effect on the design decision. Enjoy the merry go round until you realize the truth that modality is here to stay.
You misunderstand. I don't seriously expect the devs to pay any attention to anything I have to say. We have a thread about what would be best, so I argue for something better. Whether the devs do anything or not has no bearing on whether or not I'm right.

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And as the FD comments in the OP clearly state, you won't get it.
As above, I'm only here for the debate.
 
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You misunderstand. I don't seriously expect the devs to pay any attention to anything I have to say. We have a thread about what would be best, so I argue for something better. Whether the devs do anything or not has no bearing on whether or not I'm right.

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As above, I'm only here for the debate.


OK, have fun debating! Here;s your ticket for another ride around:

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Yea that definitely wasn't me. I think there is a place for Solo for sure. Personally, I only played the single player campaigns in almost every FPS, so thats kind of a similar situation, sort of. Now the whole contributing to PowerPlay in Solo without a way for Open players to counter is a much more valid discussion...

Oh, and FYI for the future when you see my posts, I don't do smoke screens, straight up is the way to be, in my opinion.

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Oh no, that's not me. Just voicing my preference, and hoping others will come to Open and enjoy it as well. In America, we all have the liberty to make choices as we please, I believe in the freedom of choice, most definitely. I'm just of the opinion that many people are missing out on a lot of good times by staying in Solo forever.


Straight up is always best, and the bottom one I was replying to Cody's comment originally that he made on my comment.
 
You misunderstand. I don't seriously expect the devs to pay any attention to anything I have to say. We have a thread about what would be best, so I argue for something better. Whether the devs do anything or not has no bearing on whether or not I'm right.

"Better" is subjective. Any kind of segregation would make the game worse for me, and for many players that enjoy being able to choose which mode to play in.

And, in any case, anything that gave benefits or exclusive content to Open would only succeed in making me tune my firewall so I could play in "open" but never see anyone else.
 
Understandable.

In my opinion, it is unfortunate they will not experience the rush of fighting another player, or being interdicted by Pirates. Real Life gets in the way of farrrr too many things these days.

I play enough PvP in other, PvP-only games, easily as much as I play PvE games; I truly love PvP when everyone is there by choice, when the fight is evenly balanced and victory isn't defined until the end.

In games similar to ED, though, I don't do it anymore, and I doubt I ever again will. I never could find anything enjoyable, at all, in one-sided, non-consensual PvP, so I not only don't engage in it, I will do whatever it takes — up to and including leaving the game altogether — to remove that awful experience from my gameplay.

So, no. Unless a way to play in Open without ever being attacked by another player against my will is implemented, don't expect me to ever fly in Open.

Last I heard, the Devs had turned off the 4k (Alt + F10) screenshots in Open, as it was causing lag.
Not seen a patch note saying it was back on, so are you sure on that? (going to test this myself btw)

I remember someone saying, either in this thread or its predecessor, that by changing the screenshot folder to a slow device and taking a 4K screenshot it was possible to hang the client for a small while, dropping from the game (AKA doing a combat logoff) on command, and that this was the true reason high definition screenshots were only enabled in Solo.
 
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