Yes, it seems like a very good move.
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Yes, it seems like a very good move.
No consequence PvP? That's terrible. Surely people's lives should be at stake here!
CQC is entirely separate from the main game. Basically a stand-alone separate game. I don't share a lot of the enthusiasm though.
Sounds like a good thing to me. A gameplay choice that we are given that does not force us into using it so you don't have to be enthusiastic about it.
I'm more concerned about the direction of the game. Of the four updates/additions since release (including CQC) I'm ignoring three of them (and Wings I only use occasionally when I play with friends, it just makes three-way chat easier, it wouldn't really change a great deal if it wasn't there). That's not great. No, we're not forced to use them but aren't given anything else instead. Still, wrong thread.
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I think the breadth of human space is its own evidence for PvP being rare by design. The size of the galaxy itself is obviously to give lots of room for explorers as well as cool points, but if PvP was to be a central point of the game, human space would be much smaller so as to squash people together.
You might say CGs and PP are there to nudge players toward certain zones, but the struggle is still going on a very wide front - when I dabbled in PP and went to an enemy control system, I saw a grand total of one human, an FDL that scared me into jumping out.
You might say CGs and PP are there to nudge players toward certain zones, but the struggle is still going on a very wide front - when I dabbled in PP and went to an enemy control system, I saw a grand total of one human, an FDL that scared me into jumping out.
I love these fallacy arguments, because then it becomes , "It's not right because he had an asp and I had a Eagle, his choice of ship invalidated mine!" and then could very well progress to "He had beams and I had pulses, his choice of lasers invalidated mine".
When you choose something, it may have consequences. You chose PVP, the consequence is you can only PVP with others desiring to. Forcing others to PVP because you are is not a acceptable consequence. Are you going to whine and moan if you interdict someone and they outrun you because they didn't choose to stay and fight like you wanted them too? "
It is very interesting that you say.. "Physically" incapable... it is illogical as no one here is physically incapable of understanding the argument otherwise they wouldn't be participating in it. Now a logical recourse would be that your substituting physical for mental.. which borders on if not is considered an insult, which would not be the first time a "Open Only" advocate tried to pull that crap..
How is solo requiring YOU in open to play as you don't want to. It isn't that is another fallacy argument, People in solo are not forcing you to do anything, your still free to interdict anyone else in open. Now if you got your wish for "Open Only' than you are forcing solo players to play your way.
"Forcing someone to fight is exactly the same as forcing somebody who wants to not to. " is another Fallacy argument. If you want to fight someone you CAN go and find someone else to fight, that is in no way the same as forcing those in solo into Open where they are forced to fight. I am really starting to wonder if you have any real clue as to what "FORCED" means. You keep throwing it around in a way that it doesn't mean.
Your whole argument is you made the choice at being a pirate and you feel that others should be forced to play as you do so that you have targets. You feel it is unfair that others made a choice that resulted in a different form of game play. Both choices are valid and you can play both ways.. At no point was it ever said that it was mandatory that you pirate other players only. yes Trading/piracy are parts of the game, I get interdicted by NPC pirates all the damn time, sometimes I win sometimes I loose. You have targets but you don't want those you want players so your view is they should be forced to become targets for you. The me me me me me argument.
It is hilarious that you mention Unreal Tournament, as it DOES have a Solo mode.
Elite:Safe and Sound. Ahh another "solo is easy" jab put in a way to avoid getting in trouble.. and is crap because solo is not safe nor sound.
The excuse Steve was that solo and other groups still effected PP. They want it so the only ones that effect PP are them.. and if others try they can stop them.. The old "Blockade" mentality.
Solo was not "tacked on" it is the core component of the game. And they landed them a successful game so yes they did genuinely set out to land themselves in their current situation. And as with any successful game you have those who believe , like yourself, that it should be as you want it to be.
It's been tried, it failed miserably and was posted on Reddit some time ago as failing miserably, as expected. Proof enough?
Do you have proof without allowing mode switching? I think that was what he was getting at.
We need a test of sorts. Pick a system, a few of us will dock our Cobras there in Open. Just try to stop us. Would that suffice as a test?
They had enough problems even getting 2 wings all into the same instance, let alone anyone else from the "other" side. As I recall it was organised from both sides, which is the only way you even have a chance as you need to leverage the Friends List and Wing matchmaking priorities.
Sure, if we can get a large group of people together on short notice to blockade.
That's bad planning, you don't want more than 2 wings in the same instance, you want as many people in different instances as possible. If I ran it I'd have pairs of players in seperate instances.
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And the players running the blockade would be in a wing of 4, since it doesn't matter to them who else gets instanced with them, even if it's no one. It's simply not something that the game is designed for. I've run into systems that are "owned" by a group, they can RP their little hearts out that it's "their space" and I'm fine with that and happy for them. They had zero effect on me, to the extent that one player dropped out of my instance (with no actions on my part) mid RP Internet Tough Guy speech.
You're on! (keeping it as a friendly challenge of course).
I'll sign up for running the Blockade. Anyone else?
This is why I wish we had two character slots
I'm so far out in the black right now that it would take me forever to get thereI've blockaded a system or 2 and I know that the number of players in wings running a blockade is miniscule at best.
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