Either when flying in open or when SJA beefs up the NPC's even more. one planned thing is to improve their chasing ability - they will put pips in engines and boost at the higher ranks.
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Either when flying in open or when SJA beefs up the NPC's even more. one planned thing is to improve their chasing ability - they will put pips in engines and boost at the higher ranks.
Fortunately, it takes an Anaconda to mass-lock an Anaconda, and most player or NPC pirates don't use Anacondas. I'm not too worried.
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Trader: "Ok shooty-boys, I'll pay you 25% of my profits if you'll escort me to Pew Station in Sector-00-Epsilon
Shooty-boy1: "Make it 50% and you have a deal. Sidewinder fuel is not cheap you know!"
Shooty-boy2: "And I want a ton of gold because, well, just because!"
Trader: <sighs> "Ok, ok boys, it's a deal - just make sure I get there! Deviant Danglers Krew are after me, and won't say I'm a real player unless I trade in Open - so lets to this!"
<completely uneventful trip>
Shooty-boy1: "Ok we are here, I'm going to dock first and keep an eye on the markets to make sure you don't cheat us!"
Trader: "Go on - that's fine."
Shooty-boy2: "And I'm going to sit outside the station to make sure you don't try to run!"
Trader: "Yup that's fine. I'm docking now!"
Shooty-boy1: "We're going to be rich!"
Shooty-boy2: "Yup - I will finally be able to afford a Hauler!"
Trader: <logs off>
Beyond silly. Traders have a substantial investment in the cargo that can quickly turn into a loss. The escort has the insurance premium at most to lose.
You don't seem to know much about real-world politics. Most of it goes on in the dark, at the golf club, sotto voce, sub rosa, backroom deals, diplomatic showdowns, border enforcement... I could go on and on.
The "i wan 2 smash all teh things" concept of politics is simplistic, ignorant and ludicrous. At least PowerPlay demonstrates that there are ways to take over & influence a system besides belligerent bellicosity.
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I'm trying to do the "forum community micro-goal" of unusual words to spice up the tedium
Pugilistic pugnaciousness perhaps prematurely pushing precariously provocative precipitous pew-pew politically?
Precisely. This is exactly why player traders should NOT be expected to share their profits, and the dividends paid out by the stations to wingmen should be high enough that it's as much as or more money than they could make in the same amount of time in a conflict zone or a RES site - Assuming the trader's running a route with a good profit. If I take my Anaconda out to do a trade run and make a million credits at the station I sell my cargo at, my wingmen should at least get 500k, so they'll actually have a reason to escort me around. Why the hell would they bother otherwise? Because they took pity on me and wanted to make sure I arrived safely? As I said in my previous post, if I make a million credits, they only receive five percent of that in dividends - 50k. I could get that off an asp in a CZ in about sixty seconds.
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Just quoting you because you are the newest in line to trot out that old saw.
I'd like to ask you (and others that say this over and over) a question: did you ever play the original Elite games? They were all "solo" games. I'd say that Frontier only added the ("hard") open mode to satisfy the kill-lust of a minority of players; the PKers and the PVPers mentioned many times in this and other threads here. "Rare and meaningful PVP" was mentioned from the first, but that doesn't seem to be good enough for the PvP crowd.
I don't want to play in your idea of the game I bought. I want to play a game that I played many times in the past and was pleased to hear it would be back. I wouldn't have bought it if I couldn't play solo. I understand the no-offline reasoning but took that into account when I bought the game.
I do not want to put up with Reavers, armor & shield & ammo hacks, suicidal funboyz or the like. In solo I don't have to. In solo is the game experience I remember and loved. My activities aren't imposing on anyone - well, except maybe station trade prices and systems mapped
Dang it, out of rep again! Or I'd rep this 2x. Maybe even make a popup on every single page.
Always picking on us po lowly solo players. I can't help about the shape I'm in, I can't sing, I ain't pretty and my legs are thin.
I can't help about the shape I'm in, I can't sing, I ain't pretty and my legs are thin.
maybe people should be limited to one good post every few pages. I mean it is unfair that we can rep only so much and there is so many good comments by people that we are not able to rep due to repping them before ^,^
Are you aware that SC has a PVP-PVE slider (in the same shared universe) that is generating very similar debates to Open/Solo?
"some things are the way they are for a reason"
Yes certainly. It's called open, solo, and co-op
Yes certainly. It's called open, solo, and co-op
Wow. What a lot to catch up on. And still no space dragons.
Ok, I sort of see what you are saying, and as others have said, it seems highly unlikely that FD will want to run essentially two games for the price of one. I'm not FD, I don't know.
I think my question was more of why do you think this Open only, locked in 'server' will have a meaningful population of players? Surely all those players who want the risk and the excitement you are talking about are already there in Open playing with you. There are other occasional Open players who perhaps help flesh out your world on occasions, but isn't it unlikely that they would opt for an Open only game, especially if the other modes are still available.
Mode switching was a core feature advertised in the kickstarter +2 years ago. The question is not about what's silly and what's not, the question is why did you buy the game if you disliked that core feature ? Why didn't you research before buying ?
+1. I completely agree.
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I don't expect that Frontier will ever make the game so difficult in general as to require players to team up for reasons explained in the following quote:
I would expect that some players who want as many player targets as possible might read accounts about the perceived size of the population of the Open Only server and decide not to bother playing there, simply because it is (from previous polls on the topic) likely to have a smaller population than Open does at the moment even if Open-Only only lost 50% of those who mode switch.
No one against a 2nd galaxy ? Hmmm ... pretty sure FD might be against it - something about double the cost of the back end system and the 'bottom line' springs to mind
That too.
I would also like for there to be a profit-share option in Wings.
Actually, it can't. There is no home gaming system in existence that could do the job needed, that is why Offline mode couldn't proceed.
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