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DarkWalker

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W0OCQCK said:
Yea, I haven't played some of those. I don't know why many get the idea, I don't like PVP. It's all a matter of how it's formatted. I love PS2, as a matter of fact, it's probably my favorite PVP game. But games like EVE never really measured up in the PVP category in my opinion. I do agree with "Jolly Fingers" though, I'll never join another guild. Even in PS2 I'm a rouge, and love it that way.

I always liked a good evenly matched fight, there the ones that always made me laugh out loud. Where's the good fight when 4 or 5 gankers show up to kill a lone hauler, "with no guns or no cargo" I might add. Where does that get to be fun? What fun is it to kill a 3 day old newb who is confused and lost?
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Completely agree on both accounts. PS2 is more or less the only open world PvP game I could even enjoy — mostly because it doesn't have any pesky PvE elements to detract from the PvP — though I haven't played it in a good while now. And I'm also a fan of even fights, to the point I will leave a fight if I find that my opponents have no chance of winning whatsoever; a victory that is not hard fought is of no interest to me.

Jorlin said:
although i'm with you on the matter...

as a long term rogue i kind of hate you for that ;)
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Drat, can't give you more rep :D

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Dave1235 said:
Geez, even dogs don't crap where they eat, you did make me rofl though, still, unless your GF's father owns a firearm or is a wookie its unlikely to be a fatal mistake.
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There are worse things than death ;)
 

Arioch

Arioch
Jorlin said:
although i'm with you on the matter...

as a long term rogue i kind of hate you for that ;)
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The rouge/rogue typo always makes me giggle - in Naval slang a 'rouge' is another word for 'red *rse', as in an inexperienced beginner who's had their bottom smacked for being so inexperienced, usually applied to just about everyone who's been in the Service for less time than you :)

Back on topic, I wonder if and when punishments for Crime get implemented, whether we'll see any PvP changes in the Mobius group? I'd like to see Piracy in Anarchy systems and all the malarkey that goes with it.
 

Panther

Panther
Jockey79 said:
I'm also getting real sick and tired of the high and mighty Open Mode players making accusations as to the character and manliness of those who do not play open :mad:
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I have to admit I find that a annoying as well, I do like PVP, I play alot of PVP but just not in ED as it's not why I backed the game.

Anyway on the thread topic of open vs solo vs group - FD made their design decisions to try and cater for everyone. If you enjoy PVP, fine no problem, if you enjoy solo or private group, again fine no problem. Is there really any need to insult those that do not want to play in open? the name calling / insults / hostility etc is like being in a playground full of politicians. Can't people disagree politely?
 
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Ghost5550

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Isn't this meant to be a sandbox mmo? Giving people the option to go on their own "instance server" is just taking away from the sandbox style of game play. You know what will happen don't you? Someone will be killed while trading and they'll just go on the single player server :/

It should just be one shard were everyone is on the same server that way it helps to build community and relationships. You log onto server A on Monday and on Tuesday you log onto server B, how is this going to affect the community aspect of the game?

The game does not feel like a mmo at the moment if I'm honest with you. An mmo without guilds? With the extremely small server limit I would not call this game a mmo at all.
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Not everyone wants community and relationships though. I sure don't. I love being able to play Elite: Dangerous by myself while listening to some of Thomas Datt's Chill Trance tracks. That just really immerses me in the game. If another player was to come along and either attack me or try and interact with me it would break the immersion for me and greatly annoy me.

The only people I am willing to play the game with are very close friends.
 

Herik

Herik
fademist said:
they pay the same amount of money like you ...so whats ur issue ?

i smell if half income for solo will come some will lose income ;p
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I agree... For Solo players, In this game they will own only the smaller ships, weaker weaponry etc.. Open players will own all the higher capable ships, weaponry etc.

Yes Solo players would probably feel this isn't their game and just stop playing....And remember most Solo players will not choose then, to play Open
 
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Asp Explorer

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That is simply ridiculous. You can choose Open and never meet another soul by simply double NATting. Solo players would lose nothing, and Open players would have nothing to brag about. There is no purpose in giving one gameplay style any "bonus" over the other.
 

adrianvivivi

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i just have to say over the battle of lugh i was playing in private group because thats where my whole group was, i prefer open so finally i got a wing mate to come with me to open for some pvp and the entire system was dead, at a time of war during a slot in the day alot of people are online, so for me solo/ group play is killing the game, i took a break after that and switched to a more competitive game. my group is setting up pvp tournaments, but im not really into that. im looking to fly through space and encounter dangers, and not hard npc g\dangers. its more fun random and theres just something about seeing other people in your game that make it more interesting. and trading in solo they made wings so you can hire people to escort you but if everyone trades in solo what is the point in that. im a combat pilot and i have not once been asked to escort someone.its sad and unfortunate and i would really like to see solo mode become just that, a mode that affects nothing in the universe where other people are doing things. the game was entitled elite dangerous, and it doesnt feel very dangerous without running from pirates or having random encounters with players that you have to ask yourself friend or foe.
 

Jorlin

Jorlin
adrianvivivi said:
i just have to say over the battle of lugh i was playing in private group because thats where my whole group was, i prefer open so finally i got a wing mate to come with me to open for some pvp and the entire system was dead, at a time of war during a slot in the day alot of people are online, so for me solo/ group play is killing the game, i took a break after that and switched to a more competitive game. my group is setting up pvp tournaments, but im not really into that. im looking to fly through space and encounter dangers, and not hard npc g\dangers. its more fun random and theres just something about seeing other people in your game that make it more interesting. and trading in solo they made wings so you can hire people to escort you but if everyone trades in solo what is the point in that. im a combat pilot and i have not once been asked to escort someone.its sad and unfortunate and i would really like to see solo mode become just that, a mode that affects nothing in the universe where other people are doing things. the game was entitled elite dangerous, and it doesnt feel very dangerous without running from pirates or having random encounters with players that you have to ask yourself friend or foe.
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It's perfectly fine to enjoy the game this way. But you really have to understand that your definition of enjoyment isn't necessarily shared by everyone.
 

Phosphora

Phosphora
adrianvivivi said:
im looking to fly through space and encounter dangers, and not hard npc g\dangers. its more fun random and theres just something about seeing other people in your game that make it more interesting. and trading in solo they made wings so you can hire people to escort you but if everyone trades in solo what is the point in that. im a combat pilot and i have not once been asked to escort someone.its sad and unfortunate and i would really like to see solo mode become just that, a mode that affects nothing in the universe where other people are doing things. the game was entitled elite dangerous, and it doesnt feel very dangerous without running from pirates or having random encounters with players that you have to ask yourself friend or foe.
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What is interesting and exciting for you may be dull and boring to others. People have different personalities (introvert vs extrovert etc) and the current design of the game embraces that diversity.

I'm also not interested in having to rely on other players for escort duty. I want to play when I want, not to have to fit around someone else's schedule.

If solo/group play was abolished, I would *not* play in open. I would find another game. Frontier are better off keeping solo/group players like me in the game. We may not be entertaining you in open, but that's not our job.

Cheers, Phos.
 

Herik

Herik
JosiahD said:
You do realise it also works in reverse don't you? Actions in open affect those in solo and private groups too you know. The impacts flow both ways, so it's nowhere as unfair as you state. People complain that trading in solo unfairly affects markets in open for example, but trading in open in turn affects the markets in solo too. And add to the fact that combat balancing to suit any PvP wants will affect a disproportionate amount of the playerbase (ie the hardcore PvP crowd are in the minority here whether you like it or not) who are in solo or private groups and I think this notion of fairness is nowhere near as skewed as you think, and if anything skewed towards open players if you take things like the race to elite competition into account.
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Josiah your correct; as a Trader in Solo, I already have to contend with the status of Station and System 'Flipping' effecting my markets.
At this point it's OK -adds some complexity choosing appropriate commodities and/or customers. But for the future the 'Flipping' needs FD monitoring.

There does on the face of it appear to be be a shift in FD preference of catering to PvP players over Solo.

In Solo of course, changing profit ratios depending on play modes would have to be very carefully done. FD should know it would take several patches to get mostly right.
 
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Herik

Herik
xslam said:
Devs can't make us all happy. As "we" and solo players cant live in the same world, we have completely opposite goals and one will lose, the other will survive.

But i hope that they choose our, open play side.
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AS "we" in Solo must say; we hope DB's preferred way of playing is chosen...
 

Lann

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Whats the matter with people playing in solo?? Or should i say people trading in solo??

I think that pirates cant pew pew other players, and thats a lammer playing style. Give traders a better chance against full armed pirates and things could change...
 

Jorlin

Jorlin
Lann said:
Whats the matter with people playing in solo?? Or should i say people trading in solo??

I think that pirates cant pew pew other players, and thats a lammer playing style. Give traders a better chance against full armed pirates and things could change...
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another one that doesn't understand that "trading" isn't the reason for most players to play solo.
hint: the reason might be playing solo.
 

Lann

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Jorlin said:
another one that doesn't understand that "trading" isn't the reason for most players to play solo.
hint: the reason might be playing solo.
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Well, the reasons doesnt matter to me (i trade in solo, but would prefer trading in open if other players couldnt farm me so easily). Solo and open exist, and people who dislike this... well, i should say it isnt their game...
 
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