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I don't know why this thread carries on. FD aren't going to change the current structure and lock off a mode from everyone else. You may as well be arguing over what your favorite color is.
 
First ED use P2P and so PvP in ED is allways HW vs HW.
Second 24/7 or Progamers using prof. Equipment Keyboard/Joystick and/or use any Guide and walkthrough vs. a Freelancer with only few hours to play destroy progress in seconds from weeks.
Third PvP need Balancing and stay for ever Penaltys for PK.
Ana/Pyth. vs Trader/Explorer or Viper/Mk3.
Yes you and all others who want "penalty" for solo/group players want all the same enough Players to kill. You want every day the chance to kill others?
Make your own group. This is your call or play Games with PvP as Maincontent.
Last open=32 Players => Group=32 Players hey no different => Open = group:eek: but in Group the rules from players for players:D
I play solo or Mobius.

Believe me. I have a chance to kill others alltime. I have car, i can just drive in a bust stop and get a 10 frag combo, get reverse, get forward and get another 10 frags. I can play in War thunder or battlefield if i want to do it without penalty... or Star Citizen Arena commander if i want more killing in space...

You do not know me, you do not know my preferences, my person and my gamestyle. So why you judge me? Get judge yourself.

Elite is last game where i want to kill other players. I am not a killer, both in real life and in computer games.
However i would like to play a game with a bit of risk, with players and sometimes versus players, not a space truck with happy space family.

If you want to show some points you can do it without attacking me. I am not your enemy, i do not want to kill you in game. Relax man.
 
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RULE ONE OF MAKING A GOOD GAME: Don't split your player base....!
Because of the Sunk Cost Fallacy (Your decisions are tainted by the emotional investments you accumulate, and the more you invest in something the harder it becomes to abandon it) If you split the player base into 3 groups (Single/Open/Group) then over time it becomes harder for those players to change from one group to the other, you effectively become locked in to whichever mode you started with.

That is not rule one. Tule one, two, three and so on is...

Never assume people will play game they do not enjoy!
That is something vety simple which clearly eludes PvP-crowd. Take away my freedom to get rid of ats and nutjobs infecting olen and I will drop this instantly. I have piles of games I DO enjoy instead of playing one I do not.

So forcing olen on everyone will not bring me to olen för you to shoot at. It games me completely out of this game. And I take my wallet with me. No buying decals or anything else to help keep game rolling.

Mobius has ovet 5000 people who share to some level my view. Add in diehard solo players and you talk of potentially huge loss in playerbase.

So pvp-folks... shoot one another in open as much as you want, but stop trying to force me there, because all you stand to gain is big, fat nothing. Hell, you would actually gain LESS than nothing.
 
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Oh so it looks like i buyed space truck simulator ? Not an Elite Dangerous space adventure sandbox game ?
There should be Solo Play, Open Play and a Space truck simulator option for you loud cryiers...

Look at official ED page:
http://www.elitedangerous.com/about/playyourway/

a small quote from official description of game:
Remember it's a cut throat galaxy out there and combat is a basic skill that you need to survive. It can also provide rich pickings, be it bounty hunting or pirac

That's what i bought and since beta i'm trading, bounty hunting, pirating, mining, freelancing and fighting with players few days ago i lost Imperial Clipper (trade eq A3 shield) with cargo in fight with Elite Python 3 hours after this i lost ship again with cargo cause i thought i can win with a pirate player in ASP and i'm not crying out loud...

things should look like this:
Open Play - Piracy should have more penalty same for PK (i'm doing both sometimes when we want to have revolution in system)
Solo and Group - should have penalty to gained money as it's easier to get rich in this modes and shouldn't give possibility to affect market and fractions by your actions
 
things should look like this:
Solo and Group - should have penalty to gained money as it's easier to get rich in this modes and shouldn't give possibility to affect market and fractions by your actions

More than a half year of that argumentation and i still don't think so.
 
More than a half year of that argumentation and i still don't think so.

Look on the bright side - we have had definitive statements from FD that it isn't going to happen, plus we have the supermassive black hole of this thread to drop such statements into. :)
 
More than a half year of that argumentation and i still don't think so.

You'll think so when you and your friends will want to do a boom or get your fraction to control the system and "pr0" players in solo and group will kill your efforts without any danger by doing missions and trading and you can't do anything to stop them.
 
I don't know why this thread carries on. FD aren't going to change the current structure and lock off a mode from everyone else. You may as well be arguing over what your favorite color is.
Because this is the black hole. The mods -- not so much the devs -- know that the whole solo v. open argument is never going to go away, so they consign threads that talk about it into this one thread. Which leaves the rest of the forum fairly clean, but turns this thread into the thread that never ends, my friends, yes it's the thread that never ends.....
 
You'll think so when you and your friends will want to do a boom or get your fraction to control the system and "pr0" players in solo and group will kill your efforts without any danger by doing missions and trading and you can't do anything to stop them.

problem with this argumentation is:
i play solo, i don't want to take control over anything and i don't want to stop anyone from playing his game as he wants to.

don't tell me what i think, should think or will think, thanks.
 
problem with this argumentation is:
i play solo, i don't want to take control over anything and i don't want to stop anyone from playing his game as he wants to.

don't tell me what i think, should think or will think, thanks.

So play solo but don't take your solo (easier) achievments (money, ships) to open play later to be a super player who's got everything that's what i mean.
 
Because this is the black hole. The mods -- not so much the devs -- know that the whole solo v. open argument is never going to go away, so they consign threads that talk about it into this one thread. Which leaves the rest of the forum fairly clean, but turns this thread into the thread that never ends, my friends, yes it's the thread that never ends.....

I really should have known better but with an 81 page thread I had to take a look :)
 
I really should have known better but with an 81 page thread I had to take a look :)
Too late, you crossed the event horizon when you clicked on the thread title! Now you're trapped in here with us!

"MAXIMILLIAN! Full power to the engines! TAKE US IN!"

... too obscure? =)
 
Because this is the black hole. The mods -- not so much the devs -- know that the whole solo v. open argument is never going to go away, so they consign threads that talk about it into this one thread. Which leaves the rest of the forum fairly clean, but turns this thread into the thread that never ends, my friends, yes it's the thread that never ends.....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0U2zJOryHKQ


Edit: Above me, no way. Maximillian is one of the best SF robits ever.
 
So play solo but don't take your solo (easier) achievments (money, ships) to open play later to be a super player who's got everything that's what i mean.

*sigh*
i told numerous times why i play solo (and not even Mobius).
I had no problems getting into an Anaconda in beta when solo didn't even exist.
I had no problem with losing several ships a day by looking for PvP fights... i even announced here in the forums where to find me.
I could play 10 hours a day if i want to...
The only difference, if i someday would feel like playing in open, would be: i'm totally out of PvP training and easy prey.

If i wanted to rock open with a big ship and having everything i need, i could do it right now.
What would i need more than a Python, an Anaconda and 200 Million in cash?
I just don't want to.

But if i were forced to decide... i would chose open and make sure that PvP gets such a bad name that everyone would wish the split never happened ;)
 
Too late, you crossed the event horizon when you clicked on the thread title! Now you're trapped in here with us!

"MAXIMILLIAN! Full power to the engines! TAKE US IN!"

... too obscure? =)

Never too obscure but maybe you should take your obscure blackhole references to solo mode and cry more.

Just getting in to the spirit of the thread now i'm stuck here :p
 
Never too obscure but maybe you should take your obscure blackhole references to solo mode and cry more.

Just getting in to the spirit of the thread now i'm stuck here :p

That's the spirit! Now have at thee! =)

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Edit: Above me, no way. Maximillian is one of the best SF robits ever.
That bot gave me nightmares in ways the Terminators only wish they could have.
 
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