Why do you need the traders?
Why not just a mission to go to a CZ and kill X number of players from the other faction?
Why does PvP always need a trader to be shot at?
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Why do you need the traders?
Why not just a mission to go to a CZ and kill X number of players from the other faction?
Why does PvP always need a trader to be shot at?
Then the trader side should get 2 missions : one for the traders and one for the players ready to protect them. Otherwise I doubt there will be a lot of players willing to defend them.
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Because pure pvp is boring, combat zones are boring. Pvp Piracy on the other hand, is fun. it's also profession of choice so clearly I would want that to be a mission type.
I did mean that the traders faction will have 2 missions. Sorry if i wasn't clear, I edited my post for clarities sake .
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You are assuming Linear story driven missions only.
What about outside the box events an example would be the recent CG where a group ended the CG by doing missions from the board when the goal was CZ.
If they had done that in Solo or Group they would have had a false stealth whereby they could not have been detected.
Which then affects Open.
Yes thats been addressed now.
But the game is sold as open world.
If events like that are all locked down to linear story driven mission its no longer what I payed for.
Similar to how you would see separate instances for Solo/Group from Open not what you payed for.
It doesn't worry me too much I play all modes anyway.
I just find it kinda stupid I can effect Open in the complete safety of Solo or Group.
Yes, I've seen that - and it says "We're giving players a reason to engage in PVP against supporters of other factions,"
It does not say: We're giving players a reason to lulz gank traders under the pretense of a story and roleplay.
See what I'm getting at?
Taking on people who fight back is boring, while taking on weaker ship is not....... okay then, got it.
You do know, that gameplay type is perfectly valid, you don't need a reason to pirate, or even to be a crazy person who goes around killing for the sake it
I play solo and will move to open under 2 conditions.
1: I can afford to.
2: When I am out of range of most of the idiots, intent on ruining the game for others.
Solo is not an easy ride for the beginner and my PC is not really up to spec, for combat. I have the choice, the game offers the choice and I should not have to justify my reasons for playing this way. Another reason for beginners to start in solo are the hackers. It is common knowledge that they exist and again, give a new player no chance what so ever to compete on a level playing field. As I have said, solo is not an easy ride. There are the same issues, missions, and hardships that there are in solo. I have almost been back to square one on a number of occasions. For example, last night, I lost close to, two thirds of my wealth and two ships. A very expensive, evening, which will take time to recover from etc.
I will not be belittled for playing solo, branded as weak or chicken etc. It is a game, the makers of the game, gave us all a choice on how we can play the game, along with the option of change, at any time we wish.
As to those who state, I should be kept here, or sanctioned for entering the 'real game' at a later date? Sounds a bit like sour grapes to me. Sounds a bit childish, a case of, 'he's got what I wanted. but did it the easy way'! Solo, is not the easy option, it is just a way to get ahead, without the being griefed, or putting myself at any more risk, than I have to.
One more thing, I say I will enter open play, at a time of my choosing. I may find that I just don't like it, I will give it a good go, I am not one to give up at the 1st problem, but it is also about atmosphere and if I find, that after all, I don't like it in open, I will simply go back to solo and continue to play the game I enjoy.
Arry.
1: I can afford to.
2: When I am out of range of most of the idiots, intent on ruining the game for others.
Solo is not an easy ride for the beginner and my PC is not really up to spec, for combat. I have the choice, the game offers the choice and I should not have to justify my reasons for playing this way. Another reason for beginners to start in solo are the hackers. It is common knowledge that they exist and again, give a new player no chance what so ever to compete on a level playing field. As I have said, solo is not an easy ride. There are the same issues, missions, and hardships that there are in solo. I have almost been back to square one on a number of occasions. For example, last night, I lost close to, two thirds of my wealth and two ships. A very expensive, evening, which will take time to recover from etc.
I will not be belittled for playing solo, branded as weak or chicken etc. It is a game, the makers of the game, gave us all a choice on how we can play the game, along with the option of change, at any time we wish.
As to those who state, I should be kept here, or sanctioned for entering the 'real game' at a later date? Sounds a bit like sour grapes to me. Sounds a bit childish, a case of, 'he's got what I wanted. but did it the easy way'! Solo, is not the easy option, it is just a way to get ahead, without the being griefed, or putting myself at any more risk, than I have to.
One more thing, I say I will enter open play, at a time of my choosing. I may find that I just don't like it, I will give it a good go, I am not one to give up at the 1st problem, but it is also about atmosphere and if I find, that after all, I don't like it in open, I will simply go back to solo and continue to play the game I enjoy.
Arry.
I assume you mean afford your insurance? I'd suggest having that even in solo mode.
I understand the feeling of not wanting to go into open until you have a "good" ship, but honestly if your internet connection can handle it without lag you should start in a sidewinder.
Getting clubbed by a superior ship isn't nice, but insurance is free on the stock sidewinder. Outside of community goals and a few popular systems you wont see players that often, and they are usually very cautious.
It hard enough to get a hello out of most people, let alone be interdicted by anyone.
The best defense any commander can have is a fast ship. A Viper or Cobra with A thrusters and A power distributors are nearly impossible to catch.
Just had a thought (rare occasion
What if you could take you assets across from Solo/Group but the background simulations do not affect each other.
Would that appease the I payed to be able to swap arguments ?
So all those people who spent months exploring will have wasted their time?
Face it, FD designed the game to work this way. We are ALL part of one big galaxy and it caters for everyones needs. They are not going to change it just because a handful of players happen to object and not like their design.
I honestly think it has more to do with, people either not reading up on what the game is to start with - or not understanding the concept "Play your way" applies to everyone else as well.
You do know, that gameplay type is perfectly valid, you don't need a reason to pirate, or even to be a crazy person who goes around killing for the sake it
Well I want one. Like I'm sure explorers want exploration missions and miners want mining missions. People want added gameplay for their profession, funny how that works.
Don't put words in my mouth. I said combat zones are boring. Pure combat vs combat pvp is boring. I like pirate vs trader pvp, and even bounty hunter vs pirate pvp. I just find combat zone fragfests tedious.
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I see the point that you are making and thank you for you advise. However, as I said, my PC (i3, 8gb RAM, and an integrated GPU) is just not up to combat. NCPs are hard enough at the moment, as I get a lot of lag etc. At this time, I am struggling to hold on to my C spec Cobra; in solo!? I am aiming for the Vulture, at this rate, should take a few months and as you said, enough Crs to cover it about 6 or 7 times, then I'll take the risk, as my combat skills will have improved by then as well.
Again, thanks.
Arry.
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But we aren't "all part of one big Galaxy" we are in magical separate parts of one big galaxy.
Any way it was just my view as someone entering the game pretty new via steam, long after the backers have decided how it should be.
If it is to be this way I will continue as I have been. no harm done and no skin lost
Just offering my opinion on what I saw instantly as a flaw in my eyes, coming from a long time open world player.
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But we aren't "all part of one big Galaxy" we are in magical separate parts of one big galaxy.
Any way it was just my view as someone entering the game pretty new via steam, long after the backers have decided how it should be.
If it is to be this way I will continue as I have been. no harm done and no skin lost
Just offering my opinion on what I saw instantly as a flaw in my eyes, coming from a long time open world player.
Opinions are always welcome BL1P. There is no harm in having or expressing one.
The backers didn't decide how it would be. FD pitched the idea and the various modes and gained funding on that basis. Switching modes was a major selling point for many people and it would be unfair to change a core premise of the game. I doubt it would ever happen anyway.
Simply because it allows the maximum number of people to play the WAY they want, WHEN they want and, to a large extent, with WHOM they want.
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That post doesn't at all make you come over as a bitter old git who has little experience of people, let alone gaming.
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The more people who influence the universe the more dynamic it will be. If it bothers you that it's players in a different mode influencing things, think of them as NPCs that you don't meet.
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