The Star Citizen Thread v 3.0
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There is an English word gravitas that I think is applicable here. A response was justified but it needed to be done in a measured and dignified fashion. Something along the lines of the following would have stopped everything there and then.
"We read with interest and some amusement the recent article... We are currently busy preparing for Citizencon and development of the game is continuing. Funds at our current burn rate would cover in excess of 2 years additional development."
Maybe that wasn't possible of course, in which case silence is golden. Once you get defensive and personal, you make the other person realise they are getting through and there must be some credence in what they are saying.
CIG need to focus on making SC, get some traction and product out to the backers then all the negativity will blow away in the wind.
"We read with interest and some amusement the recent article... We are currently busy preparing for Citizencon and development of the game is continuing. Funds at our current burn rate would cover in excess of 2 years additional development."
Maybe that wasn't possible of course, in which case silence is golden. Once you get defensive and personal, you make the other person realise they are getting through and there must be some credence in what they are saying.
CIG need to focus on making SC, get some traction and product out to the backers then all the negativity will blow away in the wind.
And then Microsoft steps in and clear up the mess
Seriously, I feel strong "Freelancer" vibes all over SC. There are striking similarities regarding the development. Could it be possible that Chris didn't learn anything from his last project?
I have to say this is my fear as well, thats why even though I joined the RSI forums in September 2012 I have yet to drop any money into the game. I just havent been convinced by the project so far...
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Not sure, I think around 40 in hanger, less flyable (some due to not being suitable for AC) and around 40ish in design phases
This does include variants though so the Mustang for instance counts as 5 this means the actual number of individual chassis will be 20-30ish???
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Thanks. Is the Idris M still the big daddy?
Not sure, not really looked into the big ships, not my thing. I can only see myself going up to a Freelancer and that will be in game post launch, starting with an Avenger which is the most fun ship I have tried so far.
I got the Freelancer - I think that's prob my favourite of those I'm familiar with.
And then Microsoft steps in and clear up the mess
Seriously, I feel strong "Freelancer" vibes all over SC. There are striking similarities regarding the development. Could it be possible that Chris didn't learn anything from his last project?
I did enjoy freelancer back in the day, though I never followed development (i just happened upon the game when they still sold boxed pc games) so I don't know what was promised before release.
I think the Freelancer is having an exterior materials pass done at the moment so it may look even better soon
Might even get to fly it soon
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Dude why are you linking your own posts as proof?
Especially since none of the ones you linked are actual "debunkings" of any sort
If they weren't proof then they'd have been answered. I'll take the non-answer as proof until that point.
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So basically what I said it would be except it's just a rehash of glassdoor instead of fb/twitter. What a surprise.
Nobody seems to mention this part regarding the finances -
The 90 million is just the crowdfunding numbers right? They could easily have another 50% on top of that from other sources. Given what they've made already I'm pretty sure they'll be able to get loans if needed too.
As soon as they show the real game they can expect money to start flowing in again.
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Baring these two small things:
The article acts on the premise that he has uncovered "the anonymous sources", while update 8 states the opposite.
The author is an extremely active grey market trader while claiming to only have one motive, which is truth. If you're profiteering off something it should really be declared at times like these, even if it's entirely innocent.
The article acts on the premise that he has uncovered "the anonymous sources", while update 8 states the opposite.
The author is an extremely active grey market trader while claiming to only have one motive, which is truth. If you're profiteering off something it should really be declared at times like these, even if it's entirely innocent.
What?
So basically every claim you make in a post is proof until someone answers?
Because people not bothering to answer your very important posts can only mean they are legitimately a fact.
Imagine if you were shadow banned.
You'd be nothing less than a god in your world of one.
I have 56 zebras in my garage right now guarding my two thousand kilos of gold.
Imagine how many ships I can buy for that.
The Sun rotates around the Earth, also God exists.
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No but if I rebut somebody else's comments and they fail to prove me wrong afterwards, then I'm pretty sure I have the high ground when talking about rebuttals.
I guess you want a go instead though? Tell me what other games with anything near SC's scope has shown more at this stage of development. Prove to me that CIG is spending way too much on advertising. Otherwise it's all just hot air with zero facts behind it.
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Except you specifically say "debunked" as though presenting an argument and not getting a reply is actual evidence for anything.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=57576&p=2882541&viewfull=1#post2882541
I presume done so that people who can't be bothered clicking the links (most people) assume you have actually provided evidence and therefore your claims must be right.
Which is pretty poor form really.
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Off the top of my head, World of Warcraft?
When somebody makes false accusations and then I prove them wrong - at which point they go crying about "bringing in the other game" and basically failing to prove their accusations are true then yes, I'll link to the posts...so that others can make up their minds on whether or not their accusations were true or false.
Why don't you have a go at proving NEO's accusations are true? Could it possibly be that you know that they were false and no such proof exists?
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WOW's development took about 5 years total. In what way could you say the scope of each was similar and provide links if you can.
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I could try and have a few ideas that immediately spring to mind but I'm really not going to bother.
I'm not here to prove anything to anyone and I'm certainly not here to bang my opinions against a brick wall that refuses to budge no matter what is presented to it.
Let's just say you're completely correct and everything is fine and dandy.
I really don't know what you want, are you asking for another space game?
There's no doubt WoW's scope was pretty huge, I'd say it was comparable.
Do you want links to funding comparisons timescales, team sizes, definitions of scope, design plans or something?
Perhaps, according to whatever definition you want to think up, there is no other game that has the scope of SC, so what?
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Well, WoW had 5.5 million lines of code at launch over 4/5 years from a team of 150 - http://mentalfloss.com/article/31862/12-things-you-might-not-know-about-world-warcraft
Arena Commander alone had 15 million lines of code after what, 18 months and a team of around 100 I guess (probably less)? - https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/comment/2632084/#Comment_2632084
So that should give some indication as to the sheer size of the task that CIG has undertaken.
There are of course, other more obvious comparisons that can be made.
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