Agree...
But, what about our pledged money, if they fail? Do we get a refund or something...
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Agree...
But, what about our pledged money, if they fail? Do we get a refund or something...
Derek Smart is just the ultimate troll, I mean, just a sentence like this:
If he keeps it up like this, CIG doesn't even have to go bankrupt. The whole project will fail due to nervous breakdowns of the developers.
If he keeps it up like this, CIG doesn't even have to go bankrupt. The whole project will fail due to nervous breakdowns of the developers.
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Oh, it just forums speculation based in some videos and Ben Lesnick slip offs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPhC4lQ6UJM&feature=youtu.be&t=492
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufYdDThsHAc&feature=youtu.be&t=766
There is a lot of threads about some kind of SQ-42 announcement in CitCon, so you don't need to have a "insider" to guess something like that. The same is valid for the Star Marine show (as it is late and have frequent updates on main site) and the multi-crew thing, that was already show in Gamescon.
But if the Gary Oldman thing really happen, then it will prove that he has connection, but not necessarily with someone inside CIG
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Well for my own personal experience I have been far more careful in what I back. Before ED and SC I had backed a number of early access games on steam, some have been wins, others well.... But I had never kickstarted anything before, now I look very closely at what is presented, what the company has done in the past, what type of progress they currently have, how focused is their vision of the project. So far I have now backed 7 projects on kickstarter, most of them not even close to any type of release. The thing is ED was very much a win and I am very happy I put in more then the minimum, while SC I fully regret getting anything other then the base package. Now I mostly just get the minimum package because most anything over that you are just paying for extra's assuming the game will be good, vs just supporting the creation of the game.
I think people will still back projects.
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I'm torn about the A-List actor thing. While it seems like a frivolous waste of money on the face of it, some big names have a draw and could bring in custom from those who wouldn't normally go near games of this genre. It makes a statement to the market about what sort of game it is (i.e. it's big-budget mainstream rather than indie/niche) and that *will* have an effect. Whether it will justify the cost, that's hard to predict.
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I paid £5 for Star Citizen, so...
(The cheapest fighter ship package was bundled with some graphic card sales in Poland and a lot of people didn't want that so they were selling those codes on Polish auction portal for peanuts
).Same. There are a number of projects I've backed (mostly based on nostalgia) since the Godus debacle, but that was a real setback for me and I've really dialled my outgoings back. The risk is all with the consumer, and until something happens to redress that balance I'm going to be wary about what I spend and where I spend it.
I think crowdfunding for video games has been overall a remarkable success story so far, and a failure of Star Citizen won't really change that.
Over the years, we had some wonderful games, Minecraft, Kerbal Space Program, Elite: Dangerous. These are the games people will remember, not Star Citizen.
Over the years, we had some wonderful games, Minecraft, Kerbal Space Program, Elite: Dangerous. These are the games people will remember, not Star Citizen.
I still think (hope?) they they won't fail (fail as in: all money gone, company gone, game abandoned), but I have this ugly feeling that we'll have to wait for God knows how many more years to see (more or less) well-rounded piece of entertaining software. And even when this happens it's most likely going to be A LOT less than what the wild imagination fueled by CGI's hype-machine and super expensive marketing campaign made to so many people who turned from backers/polite fans into rampant fanatics.
I have utmost respect for Chris - this guy is a true dreamer (in a positive way), but unfortunately I just don't have confidence in his capabilities to manage this overgrown project.
I have utmost respect for Chris - this guy is a true dreamer (in a positive way), but unfortunately I just don't have confidence in his capabilities to manage this overgrown project.
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Multi crew may well not run on anything but beefy 16 core jobs, but that wouldn't be unusual if it hasn't gone through optimisation passes. What bugs me is this is fairly standard at industry shows. It's part of the whole PC master race fallacy that the gameplay demonstrations we're seeing are going to run on top of the range gaming systems when the title comes out. Then everyone shouts foul "DOWNGRADES!" and points to console ports when the final game is released looking completely different.
I can't see why they wouldn't be able to pull SQ42 together, they've been working on it for a long time and it seems to have far less risks involved compared to PU. There is probably a whole lot riding on it though, if it works it will generate excitement and new money for the continued development of SC.
If SC did fail I wonder if anyone might step in and tighten regulation around the sale of virtual items.
I can't see why they wouldn't be able to pull SQ42 together, they've been working on it for a long time and it seems to have far less risks involved compared to PU. There is probably a whole lot riding on it though, if it works it will generate excitement and new money for the continued development of SC.
If SC did fail I wonder if anyone might step in and tighten regulation around the sale of virtual items.
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Star Citizen will be released in some form. In the worst (or best!) case CIG would be bought by a larger entity who'd take over management of the project and pare it down to something achievable. If CR is left in charge, we'll get a great game but I'm not sure *when* we'll get it nor how much more the existing backers will need to be milked to make it happen.
Jesus, what a depressing thought... lets hope it doesnt come to that!
And Star Citizen isn't really crowdfunding anyway, at least not in my understanding. It's a massive pre-order-bonus shop, a ship collectors meta game, an invitation to open your imagination (and purse). But real crowdfunding, that's something different for me. The only benefit is the product and a connection with the devs. We owe some many great games to KS, a SC failure will change nothing.
The only projects I've backed are ED related. The biggest two being ED itself and Allen Stroud's.
Because why the hell not.
For those who dismiss Derek Smart as a good source of more transparency of the Star Citizen project than Chris Roberts himself and CIG itself, he has been telling this for a while.
And if you are curious about what CitizenCon will bring, beyond the above... he also shared:
http://www.dereksmart.org/2015/10/star-citizen-the-endgame
They are going to parade all the A-List actors – all of whom cost a ton of money – for SQ42. This despite the fact that the stand-alone game is reported to be almost fifteen months away from completion.
They are going to show the opening cut-scene sequence for SQ42 with Gary Oldman giving his speech, someone flying and landing, NPCs waving etc.
They are going to show Star Marine. Again. It’s still a mess – and nowhere ready for production release. Reports tell me that if it gets released before year end, it would be a miracle.
They are going to show multi-crew. Again. Problem now is that, as of the last report I got, it doesn’t run smoothly at all. And so they are now running the demo on super computers with 16 cores, loads of memory etc. Again, not production release ready.
There is nothing new being released to backers, other than another AC patch apparently.
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Sorry, I obviously have a potty-brain.... as I had to laugh that DS's ID card has him a Rear Admiral... given what he's trying to do to CIG/CS.
Just me?
Okay, I'll get my coat...
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Nope. The Stretch goal was bring back ONE star of the old Wing Commander game (which you know, should be cheap right? Except for MH that recently increased his price again due Star Wars coming back)
NOT, "a full cast of the stars, BY FAR, bigger than any game ever" - according CR.
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