The Star Citizen Thread v8

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Snarfbuckle

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Tuub t Tute said:
Well if scurrilous rumour and hearsay is to be believed (as if we would!), this is not a decision made recently, it has been ongoing for months. I'm sure it will all become clear in the next "10 for the Vermin" or whatever the current PR show is called? :)
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True, or they might wait with all of it and drop a bombshell later on in november as a marketing tactic as well.
 

Tuub t Tute

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Wow, bit of a tangent: I went back and read that article that "He who must not be named" re-referenced. My one big take from it is the past few years have not been kind to Erin. Blimey he looks like a different man now :/
 

Snarfbuckle

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dayrth said:
That CIG are nearing a release of ANYTHING.
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I have no idea if they are or if they are not.

All i know is that they have 475 employees that does not seem to be navelgazing so they should get somewhere on something.
And they could also be downsizing to free up the budget to afford to finish SQ42 if they are truly tight on cash.

It could also be that they have finally finished the toolsets for everything they want to do, including instructions and are now downsizing since they no longer need the employees that worked on them anymore.

And of course they could be bankrupt and it's all going down in flames and none of the 475 employees or for that matter any of their contacts around the world is saying NOTHING about it OR any of the delivery firms that are most likely doing stuff for the company in various fields.

Neither of us have any facts.
 

metatheurgist

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Snarfbuckle said:
I have no idea if they are or if they are not.

All i know is that they have 475 employees that does not seem to be navelgazing so they should get somewhere on something.
And they could also be downsizing to free up the budget to afford to finish SQ42 if they are truly tight on cash.

It could also be that they have finally finished the toolsets for everything they want to do, including instructions and are now downsizing since they no longer need the employees that worked on them anymore.

And of course they could be bankrupt and it's all going down in flames and none of the 475 employees or for that matter any of their contacts around the world is saying NOTHING about it OR any of the delivery firms that are most likely doing stuff for the company in various fields.

Neither of us have any facts.
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Theranos was a $2B company that also promised revolutionary product but did nothing but rehash existing tech and pass it off as new. They had lots of employees too, I guess they weren't navel gazing either.
 

frostypaw

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Snarfbuckle said:
It could also be that they have finally finished the toolsets for everything they want to do, including instructions and are now downsizing since they no longer need the employees that worked on them anymore.
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They've not even planned half of these things lol!

Your faith in them is astounding. They can't even show a female character but you think they're possibly finished with all their toolsets to the point they can lay off those coding staff and just poop out the game with what they have.

Doesn't that just beggar belief?
 

MTBFritz

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metatheurgist said:
Theranos was a $2B company that also promised revolutionary product but did nothing but rehash existing tech and pass it off as new. They had lots of employees too, I guess they weren't navel gazing either.
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If we apply Theranos similarities to Star Citizen its very possible that even when SC is eventually debunked as a scam Chris Roberts will go home a rich man despite any fines or refunds....
 

[VR] Merkir

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sleutelbos said:
You call your lawyer? People should stop pretending CIG is some special entity; if they violate your rights you take the same action you'd take if any other company violatedyour rights.
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Strange comment given that they are 18+ entities, and based upon recent posts they appear to be obfuscating precisely which entity is responsible for refunds. You may not think they are "special", but I consider the term quite appropriate. At the very least "unusual" given that they are 18+ entities with arguably zero product.
 

SuBSynk

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Still going with the mass negativity & conspiracy theory stuff in this thread are we?

Its always worth a laugh to pop in here.

SC already has better multiplayer mechanics in place than ED with player made missions now being a thing.

Last time i was here it was the conspiracy that 3.0 videos were "fake" and they cant possibly get more than a few players in an instance.
Making out the screen caps were all photoshopped was pretty embarrassing to read , surely now people will admit that was all a bit silly.

So whats this new one? The company is about to be dissolved? haha niceone :p
 
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Navigare Necesse Est

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SuBSynk said:
Still going with the mass negativity & conspiracy theory stuff in this thread are we?

Its always worth a laugh to pop in here.

SC already has better multiplayer mechanics in place than ED with player made missions now being a thing.

Last time i was here it was the conspiracy that 3.0 videos were "fake" and they cant possibly get more than a few players in an instance.
Making out the screen caps were all photoshopped was pretty embarrassing to read , surely now people will admit that was all a bit silly.

So whats this new one? The company is about to be dissolved? haha niceone :p
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"Now being a thing" means implemented and usable? Or is that just another dream feature?
 

biot

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Dooguk said:
https://twitter.com/dsmart/status/999417707572408325

Yes I know it's Derek, but any idea what RSI are doing this for?

Ok, he has updated things. He says it's about liabilities. Refunds?
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If you've ever watched the film "Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels" then the scene where Tom comes up with an idea on how to raise cash by selling, ahem, massage equipment explains how you put the cash you get from your customers in one entity and then put the refund liability upon another that has no cash.
 

Viajero

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Havent checked yet, but do the current purchase/pledge ToS etc really point to a company that does not exist anymore? Surely that can´t be.
 

TenakaFurey

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Snarfbuckle said:
Is this not standard if a project is nearing release that they lay off no longer needed staff?
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As Star Citizen is nowhere near being ready for release, and still requires huge amounts of work on ALL aspects of the game, I am not sure why you bring this up.

Is it surprising that CIG may be downsizing when they haven't exited the preAlpha stage and still need to complete the engine, design create and add game mechanics, add in most of the games planned content, etc?

Yes.


Not to mention that they have also said that in the case of cash flow issus they did have a plan for getting SQ42 out the door by reallocating resources and staff.
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That plan relied upon S42 being sold to generate funds. S42 is not ready for release either.

Perhaps im overly positive or not enough negative but im not sure i see a disaster looming by this.
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The disaster is that, if they do downsize, they no longer have the staff needed to complete any aspect of the game within the next decade. It's going to take years to fix the game they have now, never mind add anything else
 
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