WoW ships anyone?
The Star Citizen Thread v9
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WoW ships anyone?
It wasn't a procedural city. Again, it was a single hand-crafted location, with 2 locations (hub and spaceport) and a couple of train lines.
What was procedural about it?
I don't disagree that it's not terribly imaginative. But would you stop trying to redefine Sci Fi to something that doesn't include Star Citizen, please? just changing a few words of your post, we could apply this to next to all Scy Fi universes out there. Just saying.
There's enough reason to slander Star Citizen without applying the same mental gymnastics the believers use for making Star Citizen out to be the second coming of gaming Chris(t), but instead to somehow explain that something with spaceships in it is not scy fi, because there are also - god forbit - projectile weapons (etc. etc.) in it.
I switched to ETS2 during the livestream. Now that's a good game. It doesn't have the "scope" or the "fidelity" but it has a very good focus on what it does and does it well.
ETS2, a game about hauling from A to B, and was made on a much lesser budget, is a much better and engaging game (and released!) than SC will ever be.
Ah, cool, you see, i can compare games as well
Wow, that "Road to Release" convention wrap... Sandi slurring her intro, Chris rambling through 25 minutes of "we did it - until we didn't (and I've no idea when)"), must have been a hell of a party backstage.
I'm watching it back again now, there's so much to unpack - the slide show detailing past tech hurdles overcome (well done Chris, no one ever invented persistence in a game before, or used 64-bit precision, or made an FPS, or had space ships dogfighting, until you came along)... the online FPS tracker which uses *gasp* telemetry to remotely figure out who's getting a good experience and who isn't... and then no S42 roadmap until December, let's see if they stick to that one... cue S42 trailer and the Rapture, all the faithful ascend to Star Citizen Heaven to sit at the feet of Chris 'n' Sandi (especially Sandi).
To be honest, it all just feels like Chris boasting that "hey! we made a game (or two)" when everything shown at the convention leading up to it shouts "no you really didn't!"
I'm watching it back again now, there's so much to unpack - the slide show detailing past tech hurdles overcome (well done Chris, no one ever invented persistence in a game before, or used 64-bit precision, or made an FPS, or had space ships dogfighting, until you came along)... the online FPS tracker which uses *gasp* telemetry to remotely figure out who's getting a good experience and who isn't... and then no S42 roadmap until December, let's see if they stick to that one... cue S42 trailer and the Rapture, all the faithful ascend to Star Citizen Heaven to sit at the feet of Chris 'n' Sandi (especially Sandi).
To be honest, it all just feels like Chris boasting that "hey! we made a game (or two)" when everything shown at the convention leading up to it shouts "no you really didn't!"
Yeah right, nice strawman here. In Half Life that was one single sequence at the beginning of the game, that was used as an exposition device (show off the Black Mesa structure). Here it serves no purpose but a repetitive time sink. Unless you, o wise person, can tell us plebeians what exact purpose it serves in the context of a Space Sim.
Amazing for its time hasn't dated well at all and the sequel was pants.
Going for a coffee because the train is boring isn't its greatest contribution to gaming, a lesson CIG have seemingly missed.
Although I'm sure you'll be able to buy tickets in the store for only a bit more than travelling on real trains.
You would have loved Everquests boat journeys.
OT, but the funny thing is, from time to time I am looking at EQ and EQ2 on steam, considering to getting it just to try it out.
I've been grinding from the Ibuki to the Zao tonight. Ugh
Just out of interest, and feel free to ignore - as a fellow backer, what did you glean from CitizenCon that gives you the confidence that this project is going to end up giving us the best darn space sim ever?
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It’s the ‘look at this tiny bit of that game in isolation. This game does that bit better (or at least not worse) so this game must be a better game’, approach. You can’t use this defence without the comparison and you can’t defend SC in any other way.
P.S. Only skipped through the live stream, but did anyone else notice that the guy drinking whisky at the bar has a transparent head? It looked OK until he stook up in first person view. His body (and bizarrely his hair) cast a shadow, but his head didn't. Is there a know issue with shadows?
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Indeed. Half-Life was a huge transition point in gameplay-as-story. Not everything that they did stuck, including the unskippable "not doing much" sequences.
Any game doing that sort of thing today is deliberately ignoring 20 years of, erm, game development.
There is a know issue with the engine as it's not meant to do what they are doing with it.. At this point i suspect most of it is broken beyond recognition. If you notice, character movement is broken too (stutters, teleports, rubber banding) and physics is a complete mess. But their priority was simulating an ice cube floating in a glass of whisky, a coffee mug and commuter trains..
Come on now. This is not the place for a reasonable discussion.
We can only talk about how Crobberts has pulled one over on the idiots (again!).
Buy an Idrius! (or maybe a Kraken now!)
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Custom Keybinds reset after a patch? Do they not have any original ideas!
Good to know the Frame Rate hasn't got worse, I guess?
I did a skim of the longer video, and have to say that the city parts did look pretty impressive, hopefully it'll be just as playable when the social zone is full of people. Which makes it even more jarring if you compare that bit with the SQ42 trailer, it's like a different game. If they had given the same oomph to that, I would have not come away from the SQ42 trailer feeliing the way I did. I'm still hoping for that to come out, so here's hoping what Kotaku wrote has some merit to it, and there is a timeline by December.