General / Off-Topic The tensions US / North Korea

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if the Republican party is to ever be considered a decent and honourable political party it must now distance itself from Trump, as in drop him altogether.

It's already shown its jelly-like moral backbone. They deserve to be abandoned. But people don't really care about right and wrong anymore.
 
It's already shown its jelly-like moral backbone. They deserve to be abandoned. But people don't really care about right and wrong anymore.

The Republican party has fed and encouraged the white supremacy movement for decades. They own what is happening now. The country is going down the tubes.
 

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This is how it goes... R Right is the radical wing of conservatives a awful it sounds but naturally there are thoroughfare between this 2 group. And the same goes to Socialism --> Communism, Democracy --> liberalism.

You think any of these 3 rad wing better? Than you are living on a dreamland!

And here comes the 4'th what we call alt right / momentum / en marche and his fringe side like Anonymus & co.
 
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Morning all. Just thought I'd post this video as it's quite interesting in a morbid kind of way:
[video=youtube;bIAF7kBbGKk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIAF7kBbGKk[/video]
 
I think (from evidence of hios own words, history, and biographics from those that have known him etc) Trump is focusssed on "winning" - obviously any conflict between US and DPRK would result in something that could be construed as such a 'win'. Also, that bullying words to force the Kim dynasty regime to backdown is also constituent to a 'win' in such a perspective. Likewise, it is not acceptable to Truymp to be seen to be 'backing down' himself - in his view this is a 'sign of weakness' and constitutes a 'loss'. In this regard, sadly, there is an escalation from what has long been posturing and threat whilst the North Koreans have worked to improve capability of their arsenal and endeavour to develop nuclear arms.I am most concerned that this is dangerous, not only for those nations invoklved, but (and I fear this is so lost to those involved) is a seriuous matter for the entire world. The US ought to have learned - Their efforts durting the secoid world war in face of perceived threat that s and others may acutally have developed atomic weaponry and the Japanese utterly refusing to back down lead to the horrifying use of tiny devices - fropm which the effects are still ongoing. Noawadays the payload of individual nuclear warheads are way above those previously deployed. I am worried Trump believes thewy are simply "big bombs", he denies climate change, so could easily deny the poisoning of radiation and the long terms devastation that use of such would have on his own America, and the wider world for a long time. I also believe Kim Jong Il is hot headed. As a relative youthful leader, he watched his grandfather, but then saw his father do little more than make idle threat. The newer leader has shown alreayd he is determined to act, and it appears as though he has a need to 'prove' himself. "Standing up to" and outright threatening the US with no (visible to everyday people) repercussions is excellent propaganda materia and serves him immensely in his own nation, but on the world stage, it is concerning.I would urge that Trump consider the reality of nuclear weapons._Both Trum and Kim Jong Ul are sensitive, desperate folk that represent real potential danger in their need for validation and petty victory.
 
That's what they want you to believe. That conservatives are closer to right wing radicals than to progressives and social democrats are closer to communists than to conservatives.

That's not the case.

Note the hate towards "liberals" again. The Hungarian government has strong fascist tendencies, and what is characteristic to all fascist movements? Hatered and rejection of liberal democracy.

Minonian has swallowed the party line. He doesn't understand that it's a rejection of democracy itself, and that "illiberal democracy" means a sham like Putin's Russia.
 
It seems that the Pyongyang's spectacular progress on the missiles, at the heart of the severe tensions with Washington, was made by engines from Ukraine or Russia (USSR), and probably obtained on the black market, according to a study of International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS).
 
Minonian has swallowed the party line. He doesn't understand that it's a rejection of democracy itself, and that "illiberal democracy" means a sham like Putin's Russia.

I disagree with this assessment, and think it's more of an English translation issue.

Today, the POTUS carefully read a scripted speech from a teleprompter, which permitted him to colour within the lines and condemn racism and N-zism, after he touted the stock market performance.

No mention of Korea, almost as if it's completely gone away.

Ben Affleck has delivered better acting.

The degree to which Trump is now being monitored and controlled has just been extended to the words and expressions he's free to use. While this enormously expands the working vocabulary, it makes him
seem completely hollow and insincere.

He had just finished attacking the Merck CEO for resigning from his business council in protest over the coddling. Instantaneous attack on that man. 3 days for the Domestic Terrorists that just killed a woman.

But prominent American neo-N-zis were quite pleased by Trump’s response. And as John Oliver pointed out on Sunday night, “N-zis are a lot like cats. If they like you, it’s probably because you’re feeding them.
 
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It seems that the Pyongyang's spectacular progress on the missiles, at the heart of the severe tensions with Washington, was made by engines from Ukraine or Russia (USSR), and probably obtained on the black market, according to a study of International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS).

Are you sure they didn't get help from southern California? :

[video=youtube;nEx3FUvVp2Q]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEx3FUvVp2Q[/video]


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So, summing up the week.

1. Threatened nuclear war.

2. Threatened "fire and fury like the world has never seen" on an easily provoked rogue state.

3. Fail to condemn a white-supremacist terrorist attack in his own country.

4. Thanked Putin for evicting US diplomats from Russia.

Each week you think, it can't get any worse. Each week, Trump proves that wrong.

President Trump’s approval rating has now dropped to 34 percent, his lowest score since taking office. According to Gallup’s daily poll, since last Thursday Trump’s approval rating dropped by three percent while his disapproval rating jumped five points to 61 percent. Additionally, his approval among Republicans fell to 79 percent.

After the "Fire and Fury, and, frankly, Power" speech, his approval had moved up a bit.
But now that he's whiffed the ball on the speech and showed his true colours, it's crashed to the lowest it has gone.

So did the Korean Manoeuver work?
Only for about 3 days.

Can we conclude that 79% of Republicans like the National Socialists in battle gear and WW2 helmets clubbing their citizens in the streets?
Here's a site that posits that it's the counter protesters who are the real issue, because the writer doesn't like their hair.

It's written 2 weeks or so before this incident, and it illustrates an important point:
People who are disconnected from reality cannot predict what will happen.
They start off wrong. They think wrong. They reach the wrong conclusions. But they nevertheless feel that they are smarter than you.
 
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