The Thargoids are more violent then us (with proof)

Star Wanderer

Star Wanderer
Charming Fawn said:
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Crashed Thargoid Ship

A Crashed Thargoid Ship consists of an ancient Thargoid Interceptor or Scout shipwreck on a planet's surface. The first wreckage site, a Thargoid Interceptor, was discovered in the Pleiades Sector AB-W b2-4 system on August 30, 3302, while the first crashed Thargoid Scout was discovered in HIP...
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Thargoid Surface Site

A Thargoid Surface Site,[1] also designated an Unknown Structure Scan, is a sprawling, seemingly ruined Thargoid structure found on planetary surfaces. The first site was discovered on June 26, 3303 on planet B 1 C of the HIP 19026 system, and over 200 other sites have since been confirmed. They...
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You'll even find the remains of https://elite-dangerous.fandom.com/wiki/Mycoid at many of them, apart from the Proteus Wave victims obviously.
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I didn't asked you to show me, crashed ship, i asked you to show me the dead Thargoid bodies, to prove your claim.
So far i don't see any...
 

Star Wanderer

Star Wanderer
Charming Fawn said:
I don't know how to tell you that, but you're the one that fell for the Salvation "propaganda" and screams that "Humans don't do anything wrong" stuff around while ignoring every valid counter argument.

We attempted to wipe out the Thargoid twice now. Once with a fungus that kills them (indiscriminately) in an insanely cruel way that spread so far and wide that remnants of it can be found at pretty much every Thargoid POI. Now with a device that was seemingly set up to spread around every Thargoid base to shut every Thargoid down - once again indiscriminately.

They so far never answered in a similarly brutal way - Meanwhile you sit there and try to pretend like we did not do something that bad.
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Show me on the map, location of Thargoid home world. You claim we tried to wiped them out not once but 2 times. So show me. You clearly know something that noone else knows. I want to see the devastation that Mycoid virus cause on their homeworld.
 

Star Wanderer

Star Wanderer
Charming Fawn said:
Ah okay, so this is just a really bad attempt at trolling, I see. Well once you show me the dead body of a human that got killed in one of those stations attacks or something, you can continue that "discussion" I think.
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You are the one that is trolling. I asked you for proof, and you didn't showed any.
 

Charming Fawn

Charming Fawn
Star Wanderer said:
Show me on the map, location of Thargoid home world. You claim we tried to wiped them out not once but 2 times. So show me. You clearly know something that noone else knows. I want to see the devastation that Mycoid virus cause on their homeworld.
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Well if the Thargoid are not nomads, it's most likely Col 70 Sector FY-N C21-3 - Can you visit it for me?
 

TobiasFuzz

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What are you talking about here? Is this RP? Then you can think what you want about the Thargoids, but you should mark your Statements somehow as RP. If you talk about the outgame design of the whole thing ... this very clearly explained and can be looked up. Drew Wagar did a nice YT Video about the lore concerning Thargoids were he undoubtly stated that

  • Parts of humanity wanted and triggered the war to intensify for unethical reasons
  • Thargoids are extremely advanced and could have beaten humans multiple times. We have no chance and could be happy that we are not eradicated yet (for unknown reasons the Thargoids are very indulgent with us)

And Drew Wagar is "one of the official authors for the narrativ of the game".
 

Star Wanderer

Star Wanderer
TobiasFuzz said:
What are you talking about here? Is this RP? Then you can think what you want about the Thargoids, but you should mark your Statements somehow as RP. If you talk about the outgame design of the whole thing ... this very clearly explained and can be looked up. Drew Wagar did a nice YT Video about the lore concerning Thargoids were he undoubtly stated that

  • Parts of humanity wanted and triggered the war to intensify for unethical reasons
  • Thargoids are extremely advanced and could have beaten humans multiple times. We have no chance and could be happy that we are not eradicated yet (for unknown reasons the Thargoids are very indulgent with us)

And Drew Wagar is "one of the official authors for the narrativ of the game".
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His involvment ended long long ago if i am not mistaken. So just an opinion not a fact.
 

TobiasFuzz

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Star Wanderer said:
His last book was in 2017.
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And so what? I am not talking about his books but his contribution to the narrativ. You should watch his still relevant video about the Lore of the Thargoids. Or you can Show me an official statement by FDev that they retconned his contribution to the narrativ.
 

Star Wanderer

Star Wanderer
TobiasFuzz said:
And so what? I am not talking about his books but his contribution to the narrativ. You should watch his still relevant video about the Lore of the Thargoids. Or you can Show me an official statement by FDev that they retconned his contribution to the narrativ.
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From the books? From 2017? I am not sure i follow, how you define his involvement.
 

Ned Flandalorian

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TobiasFuzz said:
And so what? I am not talking about his books but his contribution to the narrativ. You should watch his still relevant video about the Lore of the Thargoids. Or you can Show me an official statement by FDev that they retconned his contribution to the narrativ.
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His "contribution" was that he paid fdev (via one of the kickstarter backer tiers) to get his fanfiction officially licensed. That does not make him "an official author for the narrative of the game."
 

Magichp

Magichp
Star Wanderer said:
You are the one that is trolling. I asked you for proof, and you didn't showed any.
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Star Wanderer said:
Where did i said i never knew about a mycoid virus?
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When I talked about it and that you had no idea what it was until someone else named it. Remember that you posted an unrelated Stargate clip to try to make fun of it? ^^
And that lasted for several posts. You started using that term and referencing those events only after someone else named it, therefore it all points to you just learning about this very, very recently ;) QED I believe we say?

You asked for the Thargoid Homeworld, something that might simply not exist anymore, not be in-game, be in another galaxy, but mostly has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TOPIC ;)
You asked to see a Thargoid corpse, something that isn't in-game yet and that you are fully aware of...

That is exactly trolling, and you have been doing so for a while now ^^ Remember when I asked you for proof that you never provided? ;)

You have lied, thrown insults, spammed and multi posted, showed your aggressivity and idiocy, spread false informations and derailed a topic... In order to prove that Humanity isn't violent........... ;)
 
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TobiasFuzz

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Ned Flandalorian said:
His "contribution" was that he paid fdev (via one of the kickstarter backer tiers) to get his fanfiction officially licensed. That does not make him "an official author for the narrative of the game."
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He paid to be a Kickstarter backer like thousend others, not to get his fanfiction licensed.

Of course he is "an official author for the narrativ of the game". So, we have two individuals... one is the well known Drew Wagar, who in all his published lore video, calls himself "one of the official authors who contributed to the narrativ of the game" (thats why i put the quote in brackets). And i have never seen any statement from FDev thats questioned this.

The other Individual is a forum member that calls himself Ned Flandalorian.

I believe Mr. Wagar. Sorry, mate.
 
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Ned Flandalorian

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TobiasFuzz said:
He paid to be a Kickstarter backer like thousend others, not to get his fanfiction licensed.

Of course he is "an official author for the narrativ of the game". So, we have two individuals... one is the well known Drew Wagar, who in all his published lore video, calls himself "one of the official authors who contributed to the narrativ of the game" (thats why i put the quote in brackets). And i have never seen any statement from FDev thats questioned this.

The other Individual is a forum member that calls himself Ned Flandalorian.

I believe Mr. Wagar. Sorry, mate.
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Go have a look at the ED kickstarter. You see the tier for "Pledge £4,500 or more"? The one that is specifically called "The writer’s pack"? That's where Drew's "credentials" came from.
Believe what you like, but don't ignore facts.
 

TobiasFuzz

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Ned Flandalorian said:
Go have a look at the ED kickstarter. You see the tier for "Pledge £4,500 or more"? The one that is specifically called "The writer’s pack"? That's where Drew's "credentials" came from.
Believe what you like, but don't ignore facts.
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The only fact that matters here is that Drew is an official author for the narrativ of the game. And he clearly desrcibes the lore of the thargoids thats not in favor of humanity. Thats official lore. Believe what you like, but dont ignore the facts.
 

Ned Flandalorian

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TobiasFuzz said:
The only fact that matters here is that Drew is an official author for the narrativ of the game. And he clearly desrcibes the lore of the thargoids thats not in favor of humanity. Thats official lore. Believe what you like, but dont ignore the facts.
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Official lore is what is in the game, either in the codex or logs. And most of the stuff that Drew wrote (e.g. the two "clans" of thargoids) is not, as much as he would like it to be.
 

Charming Fawn

Charming Fawn
Ned Flandalorian said:
Official lore is what is in the game, either in the codex or logs. And most of the stuff that Drew wrote (e.g. the two "clans" of thargoids) is not, as much as he would like it to be.
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Seeing that Drew wrote several GalNet articles that appeared in game and that two of his books went through Frontier Approval it's pretty safe to say that there was more than "just" the writers tier from the kickstarter.

But I'm 100% on your side that lore is only what is in the game and that so far supports exactly the narrative that Drew described in the Thargoid video that got quoted here. So there is not even a proper base to discuss that stuff to be fair.
 

Rainbro

Rainbro

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A new official Elite Dangerous Novel
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we are delighted to be working with him on this project.
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For starters, we have of course given Drew a ‘behind the scenes’ look at what’s really going on in the galaxy, its background and what’s coming.
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It's Frontier's lore, written into a book by Drew since parts of it aren't really fitting to be broadcast on GalNet - which is exactly why this rumour that it's not canon was able to be spread. Why isn't GalNet talking about the secret society that controls humanity and the secrets they've concealed from us? Because it's secret.

The plotlines related to the Club are still ingame, of course, you're just not going to get a GalNet article saying "Isolde Rochester, member of the Club known as "Personnel", had this to say..."

Do I think we're ever actually going to see the Klaxians ingame? No, development of Elite went off the heckin rails and a second, much more aggressive alien threat feels unlikely. Does that mean we're not currently dealing with the Oresrians, or that the Klaxians no longer exist? Also no.
 
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