Engineers The WHITE KNIGHT counter thread.

My name is Electric Kite.

And i like Elite Dangerous.

In most parts of the Galaxy (and these forums) i am also labelled a "White Knight". A fanboy or "Someone who has F.D's inserted firmly into my Heart <AHEM>"
I suppose. for the most part, thats true. While i have no problem being called a white knight...what i do have a problem with is people assuming its some kind of insult.
Yes...i will passionaltey defend this game. Just like you passionaltey knock it. If im a white knight...what are you, the accuser? The fallen knight? The Black Knight? A knight that gave up on his dreams? A bitter knight?

To me a Wite Knight is the greatest of titles when it comes to video games. It stands for belief. For love of something that is indeed flawed but you hope and urge better things for it. Not cast it aside and give up on it.
White Knights do not think a thing is perfect. White Knights accept things are NOT perfect but are happy anyway. They love their game. Yes we may find it difficult to accept SOME Black Knights opinions but not because they are wrong..but because MANY are so smeared with bitterness and irrational hate: ( "ive played for 4k hours and ive had enough i quit!") really? OK..
We dont understand how something that brought us so many hours of joy could make a person so miserable. Thats our only fault. And i apolagise for that.

I can hear the stampede of Black Knight hoofs thundering towards my last bastion. Who will stand with me?
Fellow white Knights. Head the call.

My name is ElectriC Kite.
I am The White Knight.

So you decided to stay
 
i didn't intend to offend you. btw, i personally found your post quite funny. it really is ... unless it's to be taken seriously. and you had to expect that it would lead to drama, that's part of the fun, right?

but, really, you shouldn't take offence from the random stranger on the internets. i'm irrelevant. take what you like and move on.

You cant tell a person they have a long way to go (in relation to posting on the internet) then saunter off into the sunset without that person going "hey, actually..buddy...no. how about...up yours?" unless it's to be taken seriously. and you had to expect that it would lead to drama. ;)
 
so basicly like hardcore Trump supporters. No matter what he does or says, he'll still have their support.
You what? I dont understand.

You are comparing ED fans to trump supporters?

Thats... not just insulting , but against the forum rules

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My experience with engineers has been that the people who complain the loudest are the ones who have played the least.

100% true.
 
I never left.
Did you..read this line in "THAT" other post? - (discalimer for people who are dense..im being SARCASTIC)

No?

Ouch...

i saw the sarcasm post that was closed. it was a mere nod to your sarcasm by using sarcasm lol you should have read my comments. I defended the fact the post was funny
 
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My experience with engineers has been that the people who complain the loudest are the ones who have played the least.

i would love to agree but..from my own tales not so much. Long time players who are honestly just burnt out use it as an excuse to vent burnt outedness (new word) also. ;/

But hey...i get it.

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i saw the sarcasm post that was closed. it was a mere nod to your sarcasm by using sarcasm lol


AHA!!! WELL THEN!

i salute you Sir! o7
 
What in the sidewinder is happening here?

Like watching a drunken brawl at 3AM in the streets of Chicago (the kind where ppl don't just start shooting at each other)
 
The only reason that being called a "white knight" can be pejorative is if it describes behavior where the person is defending something on the basis irrational love as opposed to considered reason. This particular phrase does amusingly hint that this may indeed be the case with your good self ;-)

It would suit your arguement very nicely if that was the case. Sadly for you, good Sir, its not. You see, i am aware that Elite is not a perfect thing and has many flaws. But yes..i do love the game. I also want it to be better. Is that irrational? Either way..for my troubles the title of WHITE KNIGHT has been thrust upon me. So i embrace it as it can only mean good things ;)
 
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You cant tell a person they have a long way to go (in relation to posting on the internet) then saunter off into the sunset without that person going "hey, actually..buddy...no. how about...up yours?" unless it's to be taken seriously. and you had to expect that it would lead to drama. ;)

hey, i do like i please, i'm a green knight!
 
So you are claiming the label for yourself, but reject its common (negative) meaning, and now try to redefine it? And what is the purpose behind all that instead of, say, adopting a different label?

Let me preface this to say this is not directed at the OP or anyone in particular. (White Knights in general)

I so have a meme for this but the last time I posted it I got banned (and wrongfully so because it was 100% legit) but the definition of a white knight can be summed up very easily with 1 picture of the Iraqi Information Minister in Baghdad talking to the media saying there are no US troops in Baghdad they have been defeated - meanwhile you could see the tanks the background and hear the gunfire. Its the "rose colored glasses" psyche. Blind to negatives and only see positives. "Everything is Awesome!". There is a word for it I think .. but its a defense mechanism in the brain because weaker minded people cannot directly deal with failure and disappointment so they make up their own reality based on a dream.

You are living in a dream world Neo.
 
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Let me preface this to say this is not directed at the OP or anyone in particular. (White Knights in general)

I so have a meme for this but the last time I posted it I got banned (and wrongfully so because it was 100% legit) but the definition of a white knight can be summed up very easily with 1 picture of the Iraqi Information Minister in Baghdad talking to the media saying there are no US troops in Baghdad they have been defeated - meanwhile you could see the tanks the background and hear the gunfire. Its the "rose colored glasses" psyche. Blind to negatives and only see positives. "Everything is Awesome!". There is a word for it I think .. but its a defense mechanism in the brain because weaker minded people cannot directly deal with failure and disappointment so they make up their own reality based on a dream.

You are living in a dream world Neo.

I know you say this is not directed at me or White Knights in general.. But you are posting it here. in this thread.For white Knights so.... So i will state that this response is not directed at you either. Seems fair.
I recognise that elite is flawed. Ive stated this about 9 times.
I still have fun with the game. But i would like for the game to get better.
But i still get called a white knight. As do many like myself. So be it. Im a white knight. But by my own definition if thats to be the case.
Im not Neo. And im not dreaming. Again..totally not directed at you....

Getting banned seems like a badge of honor to some.
Ive been there.

o7
 
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White Knight is pejorative term relating to subjective, moron fans. If you wanna be classed as a weak-minded fool, then, well, ok.
 
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It would suit your arguement very nicely if that was the case. Sadly for you, good Sir, its not. You see, i am aware that Elite is not a perfect thing and has many flaws. But yes..i do love the game. I also want it to be better. Is that irrational? Either way..for my troubles the title of WHITE KNIGHT has been thrust upon me. So i embrace it as it can only mean good things ;)

Technically it doesn't matter what people actually say as words are merely constructs for ideas so as long as the meaning and intent is understood from the speaker it's all good.

Just be aware that most people who use the term do not mean it to be a good thing - you can usually derived intent and meaning based on the context in which it is used.
 
White Knight is pejorative term relating to subjective, moron fans. If you wanna be classed as a weak-minded fool, then, well, ok.
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Hi!

i took your advice and i googled it.

Stockholm Syndrome :Feelings of trust or affection felt in many cases of kidnapping or hostage-taking by a victim towards a captor.

Doesnt really apply like you said though..i dont think FD has kidnapped anyone or made them do anything.
They DID make a cool video game called Elite Dangerous though and you can totally play it if you like and if you dont..well...you dont have to...

Anyway..thanks have a good one! o7

It definitely DOES apply here.

In essence, the act of defending or apologizing for the actions of a person or entity that is having a negative impact on you. Through the act of denying the existence of obvious, well documented and proven bugs within the game, or twisting their effect from a negative into a positive, or by simply trying to rationalize the reasons for said bugs being allowed into the release, these individuals are exhibiting Stockholm Syndrome tendencies.
 
I am pretty sure a vast majority of the people that has issues with this game, address those issues out of passion and love for the game.
This is why I do it.
If I did not, I just would not bother.

Even Obsidian And is unhappy with the game right now; nobody loves the game more than him.


Actually, the ones who complain the loudest, and longest, seem to be coming from a position of HATING the game. Such names as Tiberius Kirk, fuub, NMS, Eera & Colonel Kenney spring immediately to mind. They pretty much rubbish every aspect of the game, yet when asked to offer up suggestions as to how they would make the game better, they are usually short on answers. I have a huge amount of time for people like Obsidian Ant, ChaosWulff & Vindicator Jones because (a) they have proven their love of the game time and again, & (2) when they criticize a certain element of the game, they also offer up *constructive* feedback on how they want it improved.

Guess which group of people get listened to most frequently?

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Oh look, Colonel Kenney is whinging again. Today ends in a "y" doesn't it? Yep, so we can always count on at least one moan a day from him.
 
White Knight is pejorative term relating to subjective, moron fans. If you wanna be classed as a weak-minded fool, then, well, ok.

See that would matter and keep me awake at night if it was coming from someone of importance in an important position.
You..are none of those things. Not here at least.

At the end of the day guys..we are grown men.sitting at a desk. pretending to be space pilots. its really kinda embrassing for everyone here when u actually think about it. no one, wether they are classed as a "weak minded fool" or someone who is so smart and able to copy and paste definitions..should be taken too seriously. you cant say "If you wanna be classed as a weak-minded fool, then, well, ok." then go back to playing make believe,making pew pew noises and think you just made a good point. lol really? REALLY?

Brilliant

o7

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It definitely DOES apply here.

In essence, the act of defending or apologizing for the actions of a person or entity that is having a negative impact on you. Through the act of denying the existence of obvious, well documented and proven bugs within the game, or twisting their effect from a negative into a positive, or by simply trying to rationalize the reasons for said bugs being allowed into the release, these individuals are exhibiting Stockholm Syndrome tendencies.

What negative impact is the game having on me? im having a grand ole time. I dont get it.
Also ive stated 568 times im aware of the bugs. I just hope it gets better and carry on...

Really.im sorry but...No.

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Not really. I mean i stated numerous times i know what it means..and am merely trying to put a postive spin on it. who would have known that SO many people would furiously try to prevent this. Its actually hillarious.
 
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Actually, the ones who complain the loudest, and longest, seem to be coming from a position of HATING the game. Such names as Tiberius Kirk, fuub, NMS, Eera & Colonel Kenney spring immediately to mind. They pretty much rubbish every aspect of the game, yet when asked to offer up suggestions as to how they would make the game better, they are usually short on answers. I have a huge amount of time for people like Obsidian Ant, ChaosWulff & Vindicator Jones because (a) they have proven their love of the game time and again, & (2) when they criticize a certain element of the game, they also offer up *constructive* feedback on how they want it improved.

Guess which group of people get listened to most frequently?

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Oh look, Colonel Kenney is whinging again. Today ends in a "y" doesn't it? Yep, so we can always count on at least one moan a day from him.
I believe that this is most of all a question of eloquence. :)
 
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