General / Off-Topic The Wolf

[Patrick_68000]

His rock didn't do much, but standing on it's neck until it suffocated did.

Victory was always a given, unless the mother showed up.

Yes I know the story but before, I think the rock has severely stunned the animal.

 

[Patrick_68000]

Pitbulls get a bad rap, for little actual reason.

You can train almost any dog to be aggressive and the days are long past when the majority of pitbulls were trained to be fighting dogs. Most are just pets and they aren't any less suited to that role than most other breeds.

In many European countries, the pitbull is considered as a dangerous dog and prohibited from import.

 

[GJ51]

In Czech Republic they currently have three wolf packs (for a couple of years, now) and there have been no accidents. Not just fatal accidents - no accidents at all. It's all just about not being a moron when hiking. A pack of wolves isn't a jaguar. They don't sneak around the woods, assassinating people from above.
And 8000 deaths 800 years is nothing. Hippos kill more people every year...

Are you being...

Hippo critical?

 

[Chris Simon]

Are you being...

Hippo critical?

Nothing against hippos, of course. They wanna kill? Who am I to judge. It's not like humans are dying out, anyway. If anything, we could use more hippos.

 

[Morbad]

In many European countries, the pitbull is considered as a dangerous dog and prohibited from import.

Which is largely irrational and more indicative of legislative deficiencies than the breed being inherently dangerous.

 

[Stigbob]

Which is largely irrational and more indicative of legislative deficiencies than the breed being inherently dangerous.

Its a bit like firearm legislation or the speed limit, its about restricting access to a thing for people who can't be trusted rather than the thing itself.

 

[Patrick_68000]

Which is largely irrational and more indicative of legislative deficiencies than the breed being inherently dangerous.

Yes you're right about what I read on Google.

A dog misunderstood.

It is said that the pitbull is a very affectionate dog, obedient and very intelligent. More than all other breeds.

Poor Pitbull.

 

[Morbad]

Just pointing out that actual evidence based standards are largely absent when it comes to such things.

Any poorly socialized dog may be aggressive around unknown people and any large dog has the potential to do serious damage to a person. Basing laws around vague and largely unsubstantiated breed trends, then relying on ignorant laymen to interpret and enforce such laws, doesn't protect anyone. It's a waste of time and money that causes unnecessary grief for all involved, while ignoring actual threats.

 

[Patrick_68000]

However, the Wolf is less dangerous than the Pitbull ?

 

[Morbad]

However, the Wolf is less dangerous than the Pitbull ?

Domesticated dogs are more dangerous than wolves because there are way more dogs, that tend to be in far closer proximity to humans than wolves.

 

[Bob Lighthouse]

What else do you have if the predator runs faster than you and there's no place to hide?

Futility is futility, but a false sense of security can often go very wrong.
Most martial arts are terrible anyhow, finding one that would help you against wild animals would be a fool's errand.

 

[Bob Lighthouse]

Don't pay attention to all the hysteria and sensationalism concerning wolves in the wild, guys. It's nonsense; wolves do not behave that way. You have far FAR more chance of being mauled by someone's pet dog then being chased down on your bike and eaten by wolves. Actually, that's a shockingly powerful understatement seeing as how people (especially children) are mauled by dogs on a daily basis, while a quick search of the Web shows that statistically you're more likely to get hit by lightning 400 times in a row on separate occasions than attacked by a wolf. It's nonsense, the likes of which strain the credulity of even the worst Hollywood script.

I grew up in the wilds of the Alaskan bush where wolves are common-place and made my living for most of my life trecking by foot & dog team through all the wild places of the North American continent and have never once even caught a hint of the behaviors being extolled here. Now, on the other hand, if you see someone walking their Pitbull emotional support dog at the airport you might want to steer clear...

I think it's safe to say no one else here has the experience w/canines and the wilderness that Jason does.

 

[Patrick_68000]

Domesticated dogs are more dangerous than wolves because there are way more dogs, that tend to be in far closer proximity to humans than wolves.

Indeed in all the relations between two living beings, too much familiarity leads to abuses.

 

[Shinji Ikari]

Futility is futility, but a false sense of security can often go very wrong.
Most martial arts are terrible anyhow, finding one that would help you against wild animals would be a fool's errand.

I never said it was a good idea to try and fight to death against a pack of wolves, I said it's better than just starring at them waiting for them to finish you or trying to outrun them.

 

[Bob Lighthouse]

I never said it was a good idea to try and fight to death against a pack of wolves, I said it's better than just starring at them waiting for them to finish you or trying to outrun them.

And I am suggesting the training will be futile, at best, if you were so unlucky to as have gotten attacked.
You could spend your time learning how to avoid lightning strikes in a similar vein.

You'd be better served picking the brain of someone like Jasonbarron, and learning about wildlife and how to survive/get out of in the wilderness in general.

 

[Chaparral]

I've been less than a foot from a grey wolf as a child in NA. I would have been food if there weren't adults about. I was mauled by a bulldog as a child. Still have a scar on my face from that. The worst animal attack I've endured though was from a monkey in Mexico while camping as a child. That was damn terrifying. Still have the scars on my hands from that too. I've been swimming 500 yards off shore and been surprised by sea lions and been terrified - 600lbs and jaws like a wolf. You all can talk about the probabilities of animal attacks, but once you've experienced one, you may not be so generous about increasing your risk. That is if you actually go outside and see them.

 

[Shinji Ikari]

And I am suggesting the training will be futile, at best, if you were so unlucky to as have gotten attacked.
You could spend your time learning how to avoid lightning strikes in a similar vein.

You'd be better served picking the brain of someone like Jasonbarron, and learning about wildlife and how to survive/get out of in the wilderness in general.

I'm no wild man, my place will be in academia or the industry at worst. I should also note that there's no particularly dangerous wildlife where I live. If Jason happens to know multivariable calculus and complex analysis, I'll hear him.

 

[Bob Lighthouse]

I've been less than a foot from a grey wolf as a child in NA. I would have been food if there weren't adults about. I was mauled by a bulldog as a child. Still have a scar on my face from that. The worst animal attack I've endured though was from a monkey in Mexico while camping as a child. That was damn terrifying. Still have the scars on my hands from that too. I've been swimming 500 yards off shore and been surprised by sea lions and been terrified - 600lbs and jaws like a wolf. You all can talk about the probabilities of animal attacks, but once you've experienced one, you may not be so generous about increasing your risk. That is if you actually go outside and see them.

Fwiw, I've been around some terrifying wildlife.
Been buzzed by posturing sharks more times than I care to remember.
My friend even got his leg nearly gnawed off by an enormous tiger shark, nearly a mile off shore.

I'm WAY more concerned about inattentive drivers and domestic dogs.

 

[Bob Lighthouse]

I'm no wild man, my place will be in academia or the industry at worst. I should also note that there's no particularly dangerous wildlife where I live. If Jason happens to know multivariable calculus and complex analysis, I'll hear him.

That explains your delusion.

 

[Shinji Ikari]

That explains your delusion.

LOL, I never said it was a good idea.